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So whats the underlying point, that TF is seeking world domination through secret partnership with YDE lol? I mean for me its not really surprising that they would be counting their stats and effect keeping the big picture of the server wide conflict in mind. Afterall they have been fighting 66% of FUAL for about just as long as TF has been fighting. Its not as if we havent had other 3rd party full or partial participants, have we?

And I`m sure the "non high road claiming" FUA doesnt need pretences of YDE being "silent partner of TF", or whatever, if they ever feel DDE needs backup in their war. Right?


And as far as "clever" wordplays go... I`m glad some peeps are finaly aknowledging most of the glorious stuff and whooping into submission is going on just in ppls heads nowadays lol.

So I in term hereby declare "victory" for TF since every day we stayed bogged down in this war is a victory for us cos we`re objectivly loosing less comperative advantages we had before the war (being part of a superblock etc.). Man, these "victory" qualifications are fun once you put your mind to it. Or put them into your mind.

Fire_of_Venus wrote:I've read the various posts by various sides in different threads and all the things about double standards but there is something confusing me...

One of the issues TAF appear to have with OE is that ETL attempted extortion on their leader - aka pay me UU or I mass you - in ascension but never the less...

Now, it's also on note that TLE have done similar things - pay us naq or we mass you. Give us tribute or we continue massing you, etc etc... There are circumstances with some of these I know but in the end it's very similar, possibly the same. There has also been random massings of individuals and stuff like that.

So... what I don't understand is why any side is claiming the high road? Because I have seen that TTF are claiming they are fighting for the game to be 'how it should be' but if their collective includes those who will do things that are so similar to what some of their enemies have done, how can they claim to fight for what the game should be?

All it seems is that they are fighting for the right for themselves to be dominant.

FUALL are fighting for a similar thing but they aren't being as righteous about it.

And while people can say there should be no dominant group, games like this just don't work that way.

Well I need to answer this post...There have been several...hm..missdeeds in past on both sides. And I must say that I, personally, have been dissapointed by many actions that were taken after CoP vs CIA war. Some know what I'm talking about and some don't.

As some people know, Slovenia United was dragged into this war. We had no desires what-so-ever to be in it due to some facts. We have individual allies and enemies on both sides, are close friends with one alliance from TJP, but we still wished to remain neutral which was proven to be impossible.
As a few members of FUALL were the ones who attacked us we decided to go against FUALL.

Personally I don't like either side (as a whole) too much. Like a few individual alliances and hate some.

However I must state that at least Slovenia United isn't looking at this war as an oppurtunity to become an empire, simply because we hate empires and we were already asked a couple of times to join in a formation of new empire, or into already existing empire but we would lose our autonomy and we declined and will continue to do so in the future. We play this game for the joy and friends and want to get rid of things that are ruining the game for many players, not become one of those things.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :'(

Brdavs wrote:So whats the underlying point, that TF is seeking world domination through secret partnership with YDE lol? I mean for me its not really surprising that they would be counting their stats and effect keeping the big picture of the server wide conflict in mind. Afterall they have been fighting 66% of FUAL for about just as long as TF has been fighting. Its not as if we havent had other 3rd party full or partial participants, have we?

And I`m sure the "non high road claiming" FUA doesnt need pretences of YDE being "silent partner of TF", or whatever, if they ever feel DDE needs backup in their war. Right?


And as far as "clever" wordplays go... I`m glad some peeps are finaly aknowledging most of the glorious stuff and whooping into submission is going on just in ppls heads nowadays lol.

So I in term hereby declare "victory" for TF since every day we stayed bogged down in this war is a victory for us cos we`re objectivly loosing less comperative advantages we had before the war (being part of a superblock etc.). Man, these "victory" qualifications are fun once you put your mind to it. Or put them into your mind.

oh my little fury friend DDE has no one to fight YDE hides 24/7 with one exception TLE is non existant the order bailed out months ago TAF well lets say they change alliance names more than they fight...with of cource a few exceptions granted maybe something went on in the beging but hey I was on vacation before this war even started so not my problem dint care were here still and we will always be here we will never let you resume to normal game play its the FUALL way or the highway

Carried over from pianomutt's thread

Brdvas wrote:P.S. And another point for you genouises: not a single person that demonstrated to me that accounts changed hands (that they bought/got them) has EVER been made to pay anything, surrender or intentionally massed. Just ask the 2 alpha guys that arranged their leave off the list for this reason in this past week. So dont give me this BS that we run down "innoncent people, please. I thought ex alpha were your "loyalist posse" and that you`d have heard from tallon and space2050 by now.

YOU may not do that, but Vendetta isn't as ... restrained because there is at least one account I know of personally where he knows it changed hands but has decided to attempt extortion anyway all because they didn't like getting a message accusing them personally of being a runner.

TAF supposedly know what extortion feels like - ETL towards The O'Neil - except now, when they have a chance to show that they are better than that, and that they are the greater alliance, they chose to do it anyway, this time calling it 'repatriation.'

They extort people who left FUALL before the war started.

They extort people who buy FUALL accounts.

They spend the tributes on themselves instead of their alliance.

They tax their alliance heavily and spend it on their own motherships.



And they have the gall to act like they have the high moral ground????

Well since the other topic was closed i guess i have to post it here.

Its a fact that i was kicked for inactivity way back from alpha.
If i had been in there i would have helped with ress during the war-
The same way i did before, simple because i dont spend much time here anymore.

It doensot bother me that you want 1 trill or two or so.

But the fact that the matter is brought up again and again.

I was already massed i ascended for it way back.

And its clear that it would happen again now.


So since i really dont want it.

But i have no other way.

Here is your "surrender" for sometthing i never did.

Its just sad how far extortion brought the game.

ThunderCat wrote:They extort people who left FUALL before the war started.

Oh come on, you lot were oh so understanding of STI. I was loling my ass off cos I knew youd change your tunes fast as situation demanded. And so you have.

ThunderCat wrote:They extort people who buy FUALL accounts.

Lie. Period.

ThunderCat wrote:They spend the tributes on themselves instead of their alliance.

And you know how lol? FYI the naq from tributes is still stocked pending division amongst independant TJP alliances. How induvidual alliances use it in the war effort is up to them.

ThunderCat wrote:They tax their alliance heavily and spend it on their own motherships.

Oh? And how did FUA build their 1+tril MSs? Its called "teamwork". Look it up. I pitty FUA if you find taxing and donations for a common necessity "disturbing", cos you aint worth squat to your m8s. Just a load of hot air, as usual.

ThunderCat wrote:And they have the gall to act like they have the high moral ground????

No, YOU have the the gall to act like YOU have the high moral ground?! LOL

ThunderCat wrote:They extort people who left FUALL before the war started.

They extort people who buy FUALL accounts.

They spend the tributes on themselves instead of their alliance.

They tax their alliance heavily and spend it on their own motherships.



And they have the gall to act like they have the high moral ground????

Thank you for the lulz that post gave me.
That post, as with most of your posts, are full of fluff.

Mmmmmm pb and marshmallow fluff sandwiches.....yummmm

I love how flavars post was over looked by the communists i mean TF

Ok sorry if I am being blonde, but half of this is over alliance tax to build certain players??

Is being in alliance about being part of a team? Lots of semi good MS and no big ones doesnt help alliance win a war. So anyone that values being part of a team is happy to contibute! So long as who is being built is active!

Now certain members in fuall may have loads of $$$$ to throw at their MS, many in TLE are younger and or like me NOT willing to spend $ on a game

The only people that would moan about alliance tax are those selfish and therefore should not be part of a team

This is just my opinion others may not agree and maybe I missed part of what this is about but hey its early!

REK wrote:I love how flavars post was over looked by the communists i mean TF

Not over looked - ignored.
Anyone who seriously wants out needs to follow the process clearly articulated here viewtopic.php?f=68&t=119535&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=45

Pianomutt asked the TF HC to make an exception for Flavar but they declined.
The reason given was that Flavar admitted to being in Alpha at the time hostilities were commenced (alliance covert reports, taxes to build MS and stockpiling of turns).

Tekki wrote:Carried over from pianomutt's thread

Brdvas wrote:P.S. And another point for you genouises: not a single person that demonstrated to me that accounts changed hands (that they bought/got them) has EVER been made to pay anything, surrender or intentionally massed. Just ask the 2 alpha guys that arranged their leave off the list for this reason in this past week. So dont give me this BS that we run down "innoncent people, please. I thought ex alpha were your "loyalist posse" and that you`d have heard from tallon and space2050 by now.

YOU may not do that, but Vendetta isn't as ... restrained because there is at least one account I know of personally where he knows it changed hands but has decided to attempt extortion anyway all because they didn't like getting a message accusing them personally of being a runner.

I am still reviewing your sisters case Tekki.
The problem is that account has changed hands 3 times since the war begun and was purchased using FUALL resources.

rubish and you know it....

REK wrote:rubish and you know it....

REK may I suggest you talk to Tekki before disputing the facts.

The circumstances surrounding this case was more complicated than others, which is why we needed several days to investigate.

Having met both Tekki and her sister in RL, I am inclined to believe what they both told me.