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gotta say, if TTF is is doing the BS FUALL says they are doing in negotiations then what you got to lose?

public negotiations wont work and this is why:


alot of ppl will run their mouths, and alot of ppl will act big becausse it's public. it can only happen in a cerious respectfull private talk ...

well at least invite one neutral member into the private convo. That seems fair. That way if the BS flag gets raised again the neutral person can say no BS or yes BS.

zeekomkommer wrote:public negotiations wont work and this is why:


alot of ppl will run their mouths, and alot of ppl will act big becausse it's public. it can only happen in a cerious respectfull private talk ...

House of Commons works. Just let people watch.. I am sure if you ask nicely the mods will keep people who have no say out of it.

a neutral party ? why would any neutral be needed. and who ? no single person will be acceptable to everyone...

neutrals will only causse more issues then they solve ...

zeekomkommer wrote:a neutral party ? why would any neutral be needed. and who ? no single person will be acceptable to everyone...

neutrals will only causse more issues then they solve ...

Not true at all.... as Ombudsman you should know that.

who let this guy be in charge?

Just make a section that only 4 people can post in... (1 OE, 1 DDE, etc) lay everything on the table and if it doesn't work then oh well what harm does it cause? But it gets rid of the whole he said she said bs

Semper wrote:

zeekomkommer wrote:a neutral party ? why would any neutral be needed. and who ? no single person will be acceptable to everyone...

neutrals will only causse more issues then they solve ...

Not true at all.... as Ombudsman you should know that.

who let this guy be in charge?

No he is right, who could be neutral about the Server, no one!

RoKeT wrote:

Semper wrote:

zeekomkommer wrote:a neutral party ? why would any neutral be needed. and who ? no single person will be acceptable to everyone...

neutrals will only causse more issues then they solve ...

Not true at all.... as Ombudsman you should know that.

who let this guy be in charge?

No he is right, who could be neutral about the Server, no one!

I can... I have no sides in the server war. I have fought TAF.. members of the legion empire used to annoyingly farm Nemesis with no stats to take (I, of course assume they were already taken opposed to believing them not building)... and I have also fought plenty of FUALL.

On that note however where as I would do the job just for the fun of it.. I don't think for one minutes your bosses would want me doing it because I wouldn't be malliable to their will (I am also sure they'd find other BS excuses other than that too lmao, but that'd be the only truth about it)... that's assuming pigs fly and FUALL actually agree to this little verbal tea party...

perhaps Mordack would be the best choice if he'd do it.. but alas.. no doubt TTF would be quick to point out he is ex-FUALL and somewhat conscious of his public image.

I don't think any alliance should allow itself to be pressured into conducting public negotiations, to be honest. No alliance is the government, and no alliance owes individual players or the general community anything whatsoever. If you don't like the way an alliance does things, you should just lump it.

Mordack wrote:I don't think any alliance should allow itself to be pressured into conducting public negotiations, to be honest. No alliance is the government, and no alliance owes individual players or the general community anything whatsoever. If you don't like the way an alliance does things, you should just lump it.

We both know.. that's not entirely true now is it.

Semper wrote:

Mordack wrote:I don't think any alliance should allow itself to be pressured into conducting public negotiations, to be honest. No alliance is the government, and no alliance owes individual players or the general community anything whatsoever. If you don't like the way an alliance does things, you should just lump it.

We both know.. that's not entirely true now is it.

Obviously I think it is, Semper, otherwise I wouldn't have posted it.

Mordack wrote:

Semper wrote:

Mordack wrote:I don't think any alliance should allow itself to be pressured into conducting public negotiations, to be honest. No alliance is the government, and no alliance owes individual players or the general community anything whatsoever. If you don't like the way an alliance does things, you should just lump it.

We both know.. that's not entirely true now is it.

Obviously I think it is, Semper, otherwise I wouldn't have posted it.

Well then... that's a marginally senseless position to take... I thought you knew better than to say such a silly thing. The public and your community are hugely important... never, ever underestimate their power.. greater men and players than both you and I have made that mistake and ended up circling more than just one hypothetical drain, others have not.

If there was no external community, FUALL, TTF.. any alliance would have no power.

Semp if you believe that join a side in the server work your way up to power and kill the ones you want to, i owe NOTHING to any of you, nor do my leaders, and as such, should not have to post our views as to why we do wat we do, if you don't like it, simply said, stop us!

RoKeT wrote:Semp if you believe that join a side in the server work your way up to power and kill the ones you want to, i owe NOTHING to any of you, nor do my leaders, and as such, should not have to post our views as to why we do wat we do, if you don't like it, simply said, stop us!

Oh newbie... I wish I was still that naive... things are simpler when you can't see the details.