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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 7:55 pm
by forgive_me
Nuto_vixen wrote:Incase you hadn't noticed, Strike action is really the only thing the Tauri have going for them.
As IF I'm not going to take advantage of the only advantage I have in the game...
come on!
as well as taury having the best attack ....(Strike Action)so thase asgard have the best defence(Defensive Action) and the replycators the best spyskils (Covert Action).....so it covers all the ranks....the idea of the game is to invest less in the area your race helps you...so u can invest more in the other areas...darefor get a hiher rank.....
goauld dont have the advantege of a bonus + but they have more income so thae echuel the naq invested in the bonusus.....this is the idea of the game ad haw it shoud be playd.....it dose not..and never will incorege u to invest in wth u are beter at.....u must remove the wechneses first and then become stronger.....but removing the weckneses actualy dose make u stronger......
hope it clerefis things for u....
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 7:56 pm
by scben
look im not sayin that we never had a advantage however the bonus seems to come from a lot of different places which confuses the hell out of me, im asgard by the way fourm sorry i didn't make myself clear. which is why i want for all the weapons to be the same strength intially then when we have are fortifications then when we buy our def weapon we have a 25% added on to the effectiveness and when we buy our attack weapon we know its the same as the rep and gouald.
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:02 pm
by jay6669
yeh my defence shuld be the same as the reps and guald
it says on the first page tauri get a attack bouness nothing aboght a defence decrease
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:02 pm
by forgive_me
Esker wrote:That's what i've always figured... but if you say that when fogive me is around he'll... Oh wait he got to you.
Forgive_me, the Asgard and Tauri have a BONUS there. That's why the defensive weapon is more powerful. His point is, the Goa'uld and Reps have no bonus in their offensive, so why should their offensive weapons be more powerful than the Asgard? Just because they have a bonus? The bonus for the Asgard is "25% Defense Bonus" , I've said this before... it does NOT say "25% Defense Bonus in exchange for 25 - 30% less Offense." It's supposed to be a bonus, not a hinderance. (That's how that's spelled, right?
)
But if you think that the subtraction from our attack and the Tauri's defense is so fair, then the other races should have penalties for their bonuses too, wouldn't that be, as you like to say forgive_me,
balanced?
ok to end all discusions i propose this.....
make all weapons the same price and power to all races....the upgreads of fortification the same......BUT the attack wepons on tauri to be 25% powerful the same for asgard attack.....no bonus on fortification no extra fortifications...nothing........just the weapon power......simple...echuel...
for the goauld the extra 25% in income.....nothing more nothing less(this invelves the bank because the bank hase the capacity of 2 days worth of naq)
for the relpicators...25%more powerful levels...at the same price...
as i sad...simple....but efective and echuel.....
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:04 pm
by forgive_me
jay6669 wrote:yeh my defence shuld be the same as the reps and guald
it says on the first page tauri get a attack bouness nothing aboght a defence decrease
then your attack shoud be AS WRITEN ON THE MAIN PAGE...only 25% extra....are u ok with that...if yes then u agree with wath i proposed?
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:04 pm
by Nuto vixen
forgive_me wrote:Nuto_vixen wrote:Incase you hadn't noticed, Strike action is really the only thing the Tauri have going for them.
As IF I'm not going to take advantage of the only advantage I have in the game...
come on!
as well as taury having the best attack ....(Strike Action)so thase asgard have the best defence(Defensive Action) and the replycators the best spyskils (Covert Action).....so it covers all the ranks....the idea of the game is to invest less in the area your race helps you...so u can invest more in the other areas...darefor get a hiher rank.....
goauld dont have the advantege of a bonus + but they have more income so thae echuel the naq invested in the bonusus.....this is the idea of the game ad haw it shoud be playd.....it dose not..and never will incorege u to invest in wth u are beter at.....u must remove the wechneses first and then become stronger.....but removing the weckneses actualy dose make u stronger......
hope it clerefis things for u....
I just want to say that you're English typing skills crack me up.
You type words like they sound. If only our words were spelt like that, I think alot of people would have done better at school.
Makes me laugh.
Not a diss, just wanted to say that I think its great that instead of just typing words you know how to spell, you type them the best you can
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:05 pm
by scben
that is the only way to know that we are at the same level the the other races that don't have a certain bonuses.
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:07 pm
by jay6669
well forgive _me isent that the way it shuld be im mean thats what it says but thats not the way it is
and scben allready said that
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:09 pm
by scben
im finally glad someone else is finally coming around to what i have been saying all along. thanks forgive_me never thought i would ever say that lol. however i don't see how the fortification/siege can be takin away since naq was spent on them. maybe and extra fort/siege to even everything up instead of taking away fortifications/siege.
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:11 pm
by jay6669
i still want my refund for the weapons i have boght at 167800$ and now there 16780 naq cheaper
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:15 pm
by firebrand
I don't like tg idea of any further changes AT ALL to the power of deffence and attack to ballance them out. The races are unique and all play relitively well, i've been all 4 races over time and i think their uniquness makes the game special and enjoyable, make the changes you propose and they become more similar, closer just varients on the same base.
Every race plays well and i like it the way it is. Stuff change.
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:16 pm
by forgive_me
Nuto_vixen wrote:I just want to say that you're English typing skills crack me up.
You type words like they sound. If only our words were spelt like that, I think alot of people would have done better at school.
Makes me laugh.
Not a diss, just wanted to say that I think its great that instead of just typing words you know how to spell, you type them the best you can
i just wanted to say that i did wath i told i will do to every person that dosent understand that WE ARE NOT ALL ENGLISH SPEKERS...and we are not here to critisise anyones speling.....so i did watth i sad i will ....u got 3 sabs...aspecialy from me .....to u.... the same will hapen to anyone that critises someones speling...not necesaraly mine....
but lets get back to the subject
the only way is to set a wave in 1-2 wecks from now and thats that....start over.....waves do need to end.......
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:18 pm
by forgive_me
firebrand wrote:I don't like tg idea of any further changes AT ALL to the power of deffence and attack to ballance them out. The races are unique and all play relitively well, i've been all 4 races over time and i think their uniquness makes the game special and enjoyable, make the changes you propose and they become more similar, closer just varients on the same base.
Every race plays well and i like it the way it is. Stuff change.
i dont want any thing to change.....but i...and menny are tired of all those race balence things.....
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:21 pm
by scben
the waves are longer cause there is the quatum game now for quick restarts. now to fix this is easy just update the weapons new strength in the tauri and asgaurd and add the fort/siege to the appropiate races then everything should work out. then the update for balance would be over
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:22 pm
by jay6669
yeh stop changing them and deal with it put the weapons to the way they say on the first page like scben said and then give the 25% bouness to each rank