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"There is no information were it was intended being used". thats from the article.. clearly it might have not been an obelisk at all. maybe it was meant to be sideways, who knows..

Kit-Fox wrote:Again KMA, just becuase you cant fathom how it was done does not mean it was aliens.

As for the stories you've referenced, you do know that such things travel the world quite well even back then, a good example would be the story of the fall of Troy & Atlantis etc. It doesnt mean there were aliens flying all over the world.

And let me ask you this, why would aliens travel the vast distances that exist between inhabitable worlds (even the closest ones we know of are bloody far away) and expend such a vast amount of energy to do so & not stay? Why would they help a civilisation that at that stage had not one iota of a chance in hell of resisting them? Why didnt they take this planet for themselves? Why would they advance us and raise a potential competitor??

i never said it has to be aliens and no other explanation will suffice.

what i'm trying to say is that, because there are so many questions which mainstream theories/explanations have failed and continue to fail to answer any of the mysteries, then shouldn't we (we=mainstream) REALLY examine what the ancients had to say about everything?
and they did have allot to say about EVERYTHING!

do you know about the African tribe known as the Dogon?

I've seen some of the History special, "Ancient Aliens", I think was the name. Anyways, got curious and ended up finding that Daniken is a bit of a paddled walls fellow. A number of his claims are outright lies, while others even he himself admitted were nothing but his imagination. Take for instance, the iron pillar of Delhi. Daniken claimed that this "non-rusting" pillar was evidence of alien construction. Of course, he later admitted the pillar was rusted and man made. Then there was the time he said he found ancient pottery with flying saucers on them. Of course, the potter who made them was later found.. very much alive and not an alien. And of course, one cannot forget the Nazca lines. Which Daniken claims were landing strips or some form of an alien runway. When in reality, they were most likely tied to the peoples religion/culture.

I think when reading these "Ancient Astronaut" claims, one should take it with a grain of salt. While there are still things in the world unexplained, it is a rather large jump to claim aliens were involved. If anything, its a bit of a cop out. I mean what "we give up and can't figure it out.. aliens must have done it." Its clear that the ancient peoples were not dirt worshiping heathens, who sat around smashing rocks and picking their noses. The Mayans for example, possessed great knowledge of the stars and astronomy. It is not beyond the imagination, that these ancient peoples possessed a work ethic far superior to ours. In this day and age, we're fairly lazy and rely upon machines to make our world go.

Anyways, I do find the "Ancient Astronaut" theory interesting but unproven. I'd love for someone to find concrete evidence, it'd be a great day for humanity and maybe renew our curiosity. But again.. take things with a grain of salt and remember that they're just theories at the moment..

great post Ra, and i agree with much of it, especially some of EvD's claims.

the Nazca lines IMHO are markers left by tribes. many of the tribes that lived their had names like, the lizard clan, or whale clan and so on, many of these lines actually have nearby lines which look like pointers. some of the old Indian story's from the region say that the clans left their "signatures" so to speak and that they also left markers showing which direction they went.

you guys should check out the Dogon or Africa. they have story's which they have passed down from generation to generation and these story's are old.

[spoiler]The Dogon/Sirius Mystery

The Dogon, an African tribe, were said to have astronomical knowledge that should have been beyond them, specifically relating to the star Sirius. The Dogon were reported to have carried that information with them down through their long history, which is remarkable in itself - but the claims of ancient contact with aliens who may have been the Dogon's ancestors are what really pushed this story into the limelight.

The Dogon

The Dogon are an ethnic group located mainly in the Bandiagara and Douentza districts of Mali, West Africa. They live mainly along a 125-mile stretch of escarpment called the Cliffs of Bandiagara which runs from south-west to north-east, roughly parallel to the river Niger. The Dogon typically live in villages of less than 500 people, which used to be built very close to the cliffs but, with time and the decreasing fertility of the nearby land, they have started to move away. The Dogon are an ancient people - one account describing their origins says that they lived originally in what became Egypt, but migrated away to Libya and then to Mauritania before settling in Mali. It is difficult to be sure of this because the Dogon still have a oral tradition of record-keeping and the story varies from clan to clan and area to area.

Sirius

If you want to find Sirius1, look at the night sky and locate the constellation Orion. Then look south and east from the line of Orion's belt. The brightest star in that part of the sky is Sirius. It's twice as large as our Sun and 23 times as luminous - so despite it being over 8.6 light years2 away it still seems very bright. Bright enough, in fact, to completely obscure its neighbour star. Sirius B is a smaller, denser star known as a white dwarf. The two orbit each other, elliptically, about once every 50 years. Dwarf stars are made of incredibly dense material, with Sirius B weighing in at about a metric ton per cubic centimetre3. Sirius B wasn't discovered until 1926.

The Mystery

In 1931, two French anthropologists called Marcel Griaule and Germaine Dieterlen contacted the Dogon and began a thirty-year relationship with them. This resulted in a detailed study undertaken between 1946 and 1950, a study which included an examination of Dogon religious beliefs4.

It was claimed that, during this study, the two anthropologists had access to the Dogon people's innermost religious secrets, much of this being naturally of an obscure and complex nature. Some of those secrets were rather startlingly less obscure than the two had been expecting. It appeared that the Dogon - a people without much in the way of telescopes - knew a great deal about Sirius and, more surprisingly still, claimed it had a companion star.

This information remained relatively obscure until 1976, which saw the publication of The Sirius Mystery by Robert Temple. Temple had seized upon a number of Dogon religious beliefs and realised that here, in the tribe's history and traditions, might lie evidence of contact with ancient extraterrestrials.

Firstly, Temple argued, it was impossible for the Dogon to have any knowledge of the companion star; it's too small to be seen with the naked eye. The Dogon also identified Sirius B as being very heavy, which is true - but again is something they couldn't know without observing the star or understanding its action on Sirius A. Additionally, this Dogon knowledge predated the Western discovery of Sirius B by centuries, possibly millennia. The clincher for Temple was a Dogon myth which told of their contact with the Nommo.

According to the Dogon, an 'ark' descended from the sky amid a great wind. This brought the Nommo to Earth. The Nommo, who supposedly came to Earth to set up a civilisation, were a group of amphibious beings. The Nommo were apparently from Sirius, or at least a planet orbiting Sirius, and passed on much information to the Dogon.

Robert Temple was also eager to connect the Dogon to the peoples of the Mediterranean, particularly Egypt, who he contended also had special reverence for Sirius.[/spoiler]