Re: Sex before Sacrament
Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:39 am
what?
Get back to the castle and opress people
Get back to the castle and opress people
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Thriller wrote:Sex before marriage (not done out of lust) is not morally wrong as far as the bible is concerned. It is a great injustice to the christian youth that this myth continues to persist and guilt these same people over their natural feelings. Instead of putting them in the proper context that they deserve.
World English Dictionary
lust (lʌst)
— n
1. a strong desire for sexual gratification
2. a strong desire or drive
— vb
3. ( intr; often foll by after or for ) to have a lust (for)
[Old English; related to Old High German lust desire, Old Norse losti sexual desire, Latin lascīvus playful, wanton, lustful. Compare listless ]
Thriller wrote:When two people are in a mutualy consenting relationship and wish to express their feelings physically, it's not lust.
When you go to the bar and pick up a girl for a one nighter, or solicit a protitute. That is lust.
Really only you know when your being lustful and when your in love, but love among people requires receprocation. Lust does not.
I don't really want to turn this thread into a discussio on "what is love." hitch.World English Dictionary
lust (lʌst)
— n
1. a strong desire for sexual gratification
2. a strong desire or drive
— vb
3. ( intr; often foll by after or for ) to have a lust (for)
[Old English; related to Old High German lust desire, Old Norse losti sexual desire, Latin lascīvus playful, wanton, lustful. Compare listless ]
edit: I also don't agree with that interpretation of the text who put forth, but i'll get to that when i have time.
Hitchkok wrote:Thriller wrote:When two people are in a mutualy consenting relationship and wish to express their feelings physically, it's not lust.
When you go to the bar and pick up a girl for a one nighter, or solicit a protitute. That is lust.
Really only you know when your being lustful and when your in love, but love among people requires receprocation. Lust does not.
I don't really want to turn this thread into a discussio on "what is love." hitch.World English Dictionary
lust (lʌst)
— n
1. a strong desire for sexual gratification
2. a strong desire or drive
— vb
3. ( intr; often foll by after or for ) to have a lust (for)
[Old English; related to Old High German lust desire, Old Norse losti sexual desire, Latin lascīvus playful, wanton, lustful. Compare listless ]
edit: I also don't agree with that interpretation of the text who put forth, but i'll get to that when i have time.
Well, the church the church would argue that if they're in love they should marry. And until they do, they should conquer their basic desires.
Thriller wrote:Hitchkok wrote:Thriller wrote:When two people are in a mutualy consenting relationship and wish to express their feelings physically, it's not lust.
When you go to the bar and pick up a girl for a one nighter, or solicit a protitute. That is lust.
Really only you know when your being lustful and when your in love, but love among people requires receprocation. Lust does not.
I don't really want to turn this thread into a discussio on "what is love." hitch.World English Dictionary
lust (lʌst)
— n
1. a strong desire for sexual gratification
2. a strong desire or drive
— vb
3. ( intr; often foll by after or for ) to have a lust (for)
[Old English; related to Old High German lust desire, Old Norse losti sexual desire, Latin lascīvus playful, wanton, lustful. Compare listless ]
edit: I also don't agree with that interpretation of the text who put forth, but i'll get to that when i have time.
Well, the church the church would argue that if they're in love they should marry. And until they do, they should conquer their basic desires.
They would argue it would be the best thing to do; That's just advice though.
They would be wrong in saying not getting married is wrong or sinful since they have no scripture to cite to oultine the offense to God they would be commiting .
Thriller wrote:I adressed that argument in my edit.
Hitchkok wrote:Thriller wrote:I adressed that argument in my edit.
Technically, no you didn't. You just said you will.
Anyway, I'll wait for it.
Thriller wrote:Hitchkok wrote:Thriller wrote:I adressed that argument in my edit.
Technically, no you didn't. You just said you will.
Anyway, I'll wait for it.
I thought you were referring to something else. I'll reply to that when i get the time to do it properly.
yah damn devils advocate.
Thriller wrote:I created this thread to show that sex before marriage is not immoral as far as the bible is concerned.
I'm making what i consider a reasonable argument for my stance on the issue.
I'm not wrong just because you don't think I'm wrong. You have not demonstrate how I am wrong . This is how compeating ideas are measured.
And, so far you have failed to demonstrate why my idea is incorrect, I have refuted everything you have wrote logically and with good reasoning.
You have just taken what i have said mostly out of context to try and reinforce your concept of faith and your religeon. You're the one suffering from confirmation bias here. which is clearly demonstrated from your lack of understanding shown in your own arguments.
Sex before marriage(not done out of lust) is not morally wrong as far as the bible is concerned. It is a great injustice to the christian youth that this myth continues to persist and guilt these same people over their natural feelings. Instead of putting them in the proper context that they deserve.
You sould feel ashamed for trying to persecute yougn adults based on something you don't understand. But you don't... because obviously like most christians you enjoy picking and choosing what lessons to follow from the bible.
One thing I absolutely despise is fear mongering....