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again wrong.. but you can say you know everything. I don't care what you think.

After all, I don't care who post the Vendetta, action count in my eyes. So, don't tell me to read first, if you don't have the guts to back down and admit the difference between AG Thor and DS account it's the same as between you and most of TA.

As for the Green_streak, i really don't know who is it. I don't like what he did, I don't even bother to say something like that, cause really I don't care who you are and what you have, if I am fighting you. If I can do something I'll probably do it, even if it means stay 1 mth recovering, while you keep make fun of me, cause the only thing I did was to take down your defense that was build in 10 min later.

As for standards... well, I'm not entitle to talk about them, I don't know most of TA history, really I don't care. I don't want to know all SGW history either. I have better things to do with my memories. Filled with good thoughts. So.. like i was saying in my first post.
You are wrong the 2nd time. Don't do it 3rd time, cause really I told you I don't care.

HgE wrote:again wrong.. but you can say you know everything. I don't care what you think.

After all, I don't care who post the Vendetta, action count in my eyes. So, don't tell me to read first, if you don't have the guts to admit the difference between AG Thor and DS account it's the same as between you and most of TA.

As for the Green_streak, i really don't know who is it. I don't like what he did, I don't even bother to say something like that, cause really I don't care who you are and what you have, if I am fighting you. If I can do something I'll probably do it, even if it means stay 1 mth recovering.

As for standards... well, I'm not entitle to talk about them, I don't know most of TA history, really I don't care. I don't want to know all SGW history either. I have better things to do with my memories. Filled with good thoughts. So.. like i was saying in my first post.
You are wrong the 2nd time. Don't do it 3rd time, cause really I told you I don't care.

LOL again I'm supposedly wrong? You own inconsistencies show an amazing lack of reality and focus and bode ill for reasoned argument or discussion with you at all.

As for who Green_Streak is, I do know who they are. And I do know that they are a member of TAF (a newish one but a member of TAF and in TA) and as such their words reflect poorly upon them. So you can dislike their words all you want but you still are defending them, all unknowingly.

As for my account v most of TAF, while that's flattering and I blush at the compliment, it ignores the key fact that in whenever I challenge to a vendetta I am prepared to put in clauses to make it more equal and that goes both ways. I'm failing to see any rules or stuff like that to equalise from AG Thor's side towards DS. You know it and I know it, he won't face someone who could hurt him. I believe the difference between AG Thor and DS's account is a couple of ascensions (not many) and a heap of experience, since AG Thor is in TA, which would indicate he wasn't in need of practice, while DS is in PI, which is specifically for getting this type of practice. So while thanks are there to AG Thor for providing said practice to our members, he does need to consider that if that's all he provides practice to, it just shows his lack of skill.

Your version of what others should deal with a vendetta. That's all girl.
You know, people have different opinion. And unfortunately, doesn't need to be as yours.

well, if Green_Streak is New to TA, couldn't be 2-3 people on the same account, I still don't like it seeing it and I didn't saw any HC to told us what to say and think either, so probably, none of this would matter, it's up to you to became respectful in eyes of the enemy. And don't care if he did that. We all are grown up people, can take care of our own, don't need nobody to fight our wars/vendetta.

So, again, as long as you can do, what you said you could do, that doesn't mean, everybody can do it.

as for:

tekki wrote:LOL again I'm supposedly wrong? You own inconsistencies show an amazing lack of reality and focus and bode ill for reasoned argument or discussion with you at all.

I can't understand a thing, really, should I care?


In the end, if THor didn't put the terms of Vendetta, DS should do it. And they all can agree.
As long as access is limited for Thor account, probably Beliblisk can post news from Thor..
But, they can change MSN accounts and can PM in game if they want to.

Tekki wrote:Who is green_streak?

ID= 81710, Smuckerz I believe....perhaps he'd like to play?

I presume there is an end date on this vendetta? And some nice fun rules been decided upon? If not, lets put them in place so this doesn't drag on too long over the festive period

RepliMagni wrote:

Tekki wrote:Who is green_streak?

ID= 81710, Smuckerz I believe....perhaps he'd like to play?

I presume there is an end date on this vendetta? And some nice fun rules been decided upon? If not, lets put them in place so this doesn't drag on too long over the festive period

smuckerz is a she

I'de love to see that, Repli on first post..
But, this is me. Let's wait, maybe DS would do it. Anyway, we have a vendetta, let them war and talk later.

Tekki wrote:All I see is that AG Thor challenges someone from PI with a vendetta and then some of TAF sit around and ridicule the member of PI while the same situation occurs regarding AG Thor and he runs this time from a vendetta. Like it or not HgE, it was Thor that made the challenge, for a vendetta not DS.

I realise it’s engraved upon TAF’s psyche that OE have double standards, but your own aren’t high either. You can’t honestly tell me that Green_streak was being ‘funny’ or anything like that with those posts. They are straight out ridicule so perhaps you actually need to read again yourself and see what is happening, not what you are told is happening.

Thus far I have avoided commenting on the reasons behind both this vendetta and your request Tekki, but I feel that as a TÅ member I have to comment in response to that post.

First up, whilst it is good of Dragon Skull to accept this vendetta and put up the best fight he possibly can when he is is facing a far more experienced player with a larger account, I would like to add that it was Dragon Skull that took the planet from AG Thor, prompting this Vendetta declaration. Whenever you steal a planet from someone that is active, you must be prepared for direct retaliation. AG Thor did the right thing coming here, declaring the vendetta and agreeing terms. Had he not have done so and just massed Dragon Skull outright (which he was well within his right to do in response to the planet stealing) then the situation would be far worse.

The difference between that and your demand for a vendetta Tekki is that AG Thor simply hasn't attacked you. You state that you want this because of AG Thor's response against OE agressions earlier this year. Those actions took place before a temporary ceasefire and neutrality was agreed between our alliances. That agreement voided any previous alliance-based war issues and we agreed to look to the future. If AG Thor had then gone on to attack you personally Tekki, say he took one of your planets, you would have just cause for revenge against him and I believe TÅ HC would ask him to honour the vendetta should the terms be fair. However this is not the case. AG Thor has taken no military action against you personally, nor against Delta or OE member (exclusing this one pre-declared vendetta war) since neurality was declared between us. So to say that we have double standards because he won't ruin his account in a costly 1v1 against you when there is no pre-cause to do so is simply absurd. The fact that you are now pushing this issue and you have now taken a planet from AG Thor is cause for concern in TÅ, but as with any unwarranted hostile action it is the decision of whoever is hit (and/or TÅ HC) as to how this is dealt with. If he chooses not to fight you over this planet, that is his choice. As a final note, I would also like to add my opinion that any further unwarranted hostile action will be likely dealt by the Tauri Ålliance High Council as per the usual (diplomatic) procedure.

~Norbe~

AG Thor has attacked Delta on numerus occations..

And GOOOO DS

Jorgensen wrote:AG Thor has attacked Delta on numerus occations..

And GOOOO DS

And your heavy farming of TÅ in recent weeks has helped this matter?.... I mean common, hitting for AB against an Unknown for 90b naq like you did on DI today??!! Seriously? That's not even remotely profitable.

Truth is that AG Thor is one of the active farmers among us, as am I. Unless we have a NAP you will occasionally see us in your logs if you leave huge amounts of naq out. Honestly, the few hits we make on OE are for 5x the naq you take from TÅ members with the same defense (exaggeration aside, it is at least double and can go as high as 5x before we make the hits!). Even then we only make a handful of them per day. We don't sab, mass, raid or take planets from OE members, whilst the same cannot be said the other way around.

And yet apparently we are the aggressive ones...

~Norbe~

EDIT: Thats my part done in this topic, so I won't reply again. You all know where to find me if you need/want. I wish both AG Thor and Dragon Skull a good, fun and pleasant 1v1 war.

Jorgensen wrote:AG Thor has attacked Delta on numerus occations..

And GOOOO DS

I have heard from OE HC members that TA comprises a large portion of your incoming attack logs. We have stated before this is not our intention and we work hard to ensure hits are kept to a minimum, which they generally are and I have welcomed your leadership to discuss with me personally or any of our HC anyone you feel goes to far, as some of your leadership has.

That said, we cannot in good conscience not hit alliances who make up a large portion of our incoming attack logs. We don't necessarilly attack to the level we are attacked, but we do return hits nonetheless. In the case of Thor, I informed him of the situation and displeasure many Omegans, including Tekki, feel with him and asked he keep his hits to a minimum but I will not ask my member to not hit back when he is attacked and he has recently been attacked, ironically by you Jorgensen.

I realize hits occur and tensions escalate and de-escalate over time. Such is the nature of this game, where one 15 turn attack can cause a 5 year long blood feud. Many things have been done in and out of war by both parties in the past and the list of massings, planet stealings, descensions, farmings, etc. etc. etc. both can bring up are innumerable by now. It's the price of alliances that have survived the test of time. All we seek is that these rising and simmering and rerising and resimmering tensions be fair. To BOTH parties.

Good luck to both in the rest of their vendetta. I can sympathize with my fellow alliance member's frustration over the length of the massing as we were waiting for its conclusion to return to farming and to use the alliance repair function again though I can see where you might have felt it was in poor taste, even if that wasn't the intention of the comment at all. That said, much respect to dragon skull for attempting that massing against a more skilled and a more strongly built opponent. I can't feel too much sympathy for him though as he did steal thor's planet, so ah well.

Let's try to keep the rest of this clean though and enjoy the sport. I have my popcorn ready!

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Have a good one guys.

Keep it clean.

I have no tension towards you guys.. I farm you coz you have lots and lots of naq out. I have uu in heaps so uu losses are no concern for me..
I have never sabbed, massed or taken a planet from anyone i TA (as far as i can remember) and have no thoughts of doing so neither.

I farm, everyone who is not under our NAP, and have naq out that i see as profit and a def small enough for me to take.
Many of TA have never been farmed by me.. Why is that?

My farming is not exclusive for TA but for many players both in an alliance and as a lonewolf.

Jorgensen wrote:I have no tension towards you guys.. I farm you coz you have lots and lots of naq out. I have uu in heaps so uu losses are no concern for me..
I have never sabbed, massed or taken a planet from anyone i TA (as far as i can remember) and have no thoughts of doing so neither.

I farm, everyone who is not under our NAP, and have naq out that i see as profit and a def small enough for me to take.
Many of TA have never been farmed by me.. Why is that?

My farming is not exclusive for TA but for many players both in an alliance and as a lonewolf.

I didn't intend to imply that your farming was the result of tension towards us. I was merely stating that farming can often lead to more tension, as clearly has happened of late. You have to understand that just like TA, OE too has lots of naq out.

All we seek is that if you see fit to attack us when we have profitable naq out, you allow us to reciprocate without all this nastiness of stealing planets (as I see occurred again earlier today...curious), starting vendettas and all that jazz. You must understand the frustration of seeing my people get attacked and then get complaints and threats if those attacks are returned.

Mathlord wrote:

Jorgensen wrote:I have no tension towards you guys.. I farm you coz you have lots and lots of naq out. I have uu in heaps so uu losses are no concern for me..
I have never sabbed, massed or taken a planet from anyone i TA (as far as i can remember) and have no thoughts of doing so neither.

I farm, everyone who is not under our NAP, and have naq out that i see as profit and a def small enough for me to take.
Many of TA have never been farmed by me.. Why is that?

My farming is not exclusive for TA but for many players both in an alliance and as a lonewolf.

I didn't intend to imply that your farming was the result of tension towards us. I was merely stating that farming can often lead to more tension, as clearly has happened of late. You have to understand that just like TA, OE too has lots of naq out.

All we seek is that if you see fit to attack us when we have profitable naq out, you allow us to reciprocate without all this nastiness of stealing planets (as I see occurred again earlier today...curious), starting vendettas and all that jazz. You must understand the frustration of seeing my people get attacked and then get complaints and threats if those attacks are returned.

I understand but it is up to everyone to call a vendetta if they see fit.
If people wanna call vendettas for every hit on them that's their choice.
they can say no to them if the want to, but this could lead to them getting massed/sabbed or planetsstriped or an alliance wide war..
Many things can happen and different things happen when attacking different people..

If i recall right Tekki called AG Thor out on a vendetta but was turned down. Now Thor has a vendetta with a lot more inexperianced player.. WHY?

Merry Christmas everybody!