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Mez, the problem is, those that leave and DON'T sell. Eventually MOST of the Unknowns will be on vacation and un-buyable. What happens then? There is like 20-30 active players (like ascended now), awesome.
The cost of the first 10 is small, and as many people have said/boasted, getting the resources isn't the problem, the delay between ascensions is.

GeneralChaos wrote:See all this talk about people leave because they cant catch up etc is crap, the game is an MMO, all MMO's have a certain grind time to achieve goals, if you cant handle that aspect of an MMO then they are not for you

Most MMO's have a level limit (aka WoW) GW does not. You reach buy, you work on raiding. Reach raiding, work on UP. Reach plague, work on covert. Reach good covert level (37), build MS. Reach 5T MS, build planets.
There is basically no limit. The longer you play, the more powerful. WoW, you can reach lvl 85 is it, in about a week if your super dedicated

GeneralChaos wrote:See all this talk about people leave because they cant catch up etc is crap, the game is an MMO, all MMO's have a certain grind time to achieve goals, if you cant handle that aspect of an MMO then they are not for you,

I'd love to know if those who leave because they "cant" catch up are the same type of people that buy WoW accounts on ebay because they want an instant max level because they "cant" catch up.

first off its a decent analogy, however being the owner of 5 lvl 85 toons, 3 of which are raiding. Id say its not nearly as close to time consumption to catch up to be able to compete. Why is that? cause in SGWs there is no limit, there is no max level on RAW stats it just goes on forever. So anyone who is active will essentially be uncatchable to new players, and even if the active person goes inactive for a bit of time, the new player probably still wont catch up. Covert Levels have made an extreme impact on power difference, making the pricing dynamic based off highest covert level will generate more balance amongst the population. NOTICE that idea does not eliminate the grind time????? you still would have to grind out ascension and you would still have to grind out your covert levels, UP, MS, ect. Honestly I just don't see how their can be an argument against this suggestion, having more total accounts that are balanced, will make for more challenging wars?

It's fun coz there is no end level.
I have only played for 3,5 years, and some have played 5,5 years.
I didn't had my intentions on cathing up when i started to play the game, but i have. And you can have lots of fun playing even if you don't pack the biggest guns

J I X wrote:why not just stop covert levels getting wiped out when you ascend, like the ms.


just putting it out there

i kinda like this idea to

~matty~ wrote:

J I X wrote:why not just stop covert levels getting wiped out when you ascend, like the ms.


just putting it out there

i kinda like this idea to

Or perhaps loose one covert and AC level per ascension?
You do loose techs for your ms..

Jorgensen wrote:

~matty~ wrote:

J I X wrote:why not just stop covert levels getting wiped out when you ascend, like the ms.


just putting it out there

i kinda like this idea to

Or perhaps loose one covert and AC level per ascension?
You do loose techs for your ms..

I like this idea.. or perhaps two. It would let people build up a bit more while ascending, but still maintain a good amount of cost to ascend.

Z E R O wrote:

Jorgensen wrote:

~matty~ wrote:

J I X wrote:why not just stop covert levels getting wiped out when you ascend, like the ms.


just putting it out there

i kinda like this idea to

Or perhaps loose one covert and AC level per ascension?
You do loose techs for your ms..

I like this idea.. or perhaps two. It would let people build up a bit more while ascending, but still maintain a good amount of cost to ascend.

~matty~ wrote:

Z E R O wrote:

Jorgensen wrote:

~matty~ wrote:

J I X wrote:why not just stop covert levels getting wiped out when you ascend, like the ms.

just putting it out there

i kinda like this idea to

Or perhaps loose one covert and AC level per ascension?
You do loose techs for your ms..

I like this idea.. or perhaps two. It would let people build up a bit more while ascending, but still maintain a good amount of cost to ascend.

And people can't complain, they did it to MSs already

Dubby_CompGamerGeek2 wrote:I'd rather see a prepaid installment plan...
pay several tril at a time, once you're all paid, the new level is yours.

i diddnt really understand this when i first read it, but i looked at it a few times and had 2 think a bit what you meant by it..


i think this should be used for extreme covert levls like 38+ but it is a good idea to work with

can anybody get on the admin chat with him and point him to this topic or tell him about it?

i would but tis hard 4 me to get on the times admin chat is held

~matty~ wrote:can anybody get on the admin chat with him and point him to this topic or tell him about it?

Why? Why waste his time with it?

RepliMagni wrote:

~matty~ wrote:can anybody get on the admin chat with him and point him to this topic or tell him about it?

Why? Why waste his time with it?

why not waiste his time with it?
is he not the person that does updates?

really people dont care what you think about this, and im talking to the supporters to this idea, not the haters and the flamers that have nothing better to do then cry and whine about usefull ideas.

~matty~ wrote:why not waiste his time with it?
is he not the person that does updates?

really people dont care what you think about this, and im talking to the supporters to this idea, not the haters and the flamers that have nothing better to do then cry and whine about usefull ideas.

Are you not yourself crying and whining about the current game?

As for "useful ideas", what do you actually think would happen if any of these were implemented?

Cheaper covert lvls up to c36 - those who already bought them would want a refund in naq. Those who haven't, will simply buy up to the c36 and then whine that c37 is disproportionately more expensive. If they can't farm to get up to c36 now, then they'll never manage to get to c37.

Covert lvls staying during ascension - those who already bought them would want a refund in naq. Those who haven't are still ascending - if they can't afford the higher covert lvls as it is, then how are they going to afford to ascend to Unknown and buy the bigger covert lvls simultaneously?

Covert lvls bought by increments - that is what the bank is for. With the alliance bank upgrades, everyone should be able to save up the naq - if you don't have the willpower not to spend it then that is your problem.

So, I ask again, why waste Jason's time with these whiney half-arsed suggestions?

RepliMagni wrote:

~matty~ wrote:why not waiste his time with it?
is he not the person that does updates?

really people dont care what you think about this, and im talking to the supporters to this idea, not the haters and the flamers that have nothing better to do then cry and whine about usefull ideas.

Are you not yourself crying and whining about the current game?

As for "useful ideas", what do you actually think would happen if any of these were implemented?

Cheaper covert lvls up to c36 - those who already bought them would want a refund in naq. Those who haven't, will simply buy up to the c36 and then whine that c37 is disproportionately more expensive. If they can't farm to get up to c36 now, then they'll never manage to get to c37.

Covert lvls staying during ascension - those who already bought them would want a refund in naq. Those who haven't are still ascending - if they can't afford the higher covert lvls as it is, then how are they going to afford to ascend to Unknown and buy the bigger covert lvls simultaneously?

Covert lvls bought by increments - that is what the bank is for. With the alliance bank upgrades, everyone should be able to save up the naq - if you don't have the willpower not to spend it then that is your problem.

So, I ask again, why waste Jason's time with these whiney half-arsed suggestions?

your just being smart and what not all ur questions have been answered in the thread, maybe u should read it.

this suggestion is meant for dynamic pricing on covert, more managable raw stats, and ideas came into the thread like "why not keep covert threw ascension"? and the incriment idea, this would change the game play and create more balanced accounts, more challenging wars, the grind time would most likely be the same if not a little less, i dont see why you have to disagree or why anybody does, more challenging wars would be better on both sides, hell.. i remember when anybody could mass anybody

now its -spy- oh levl 35 cov cant sab... -attack- 30k supers gone 1 hit.. nty -on to the next 1- gameplay is getting horrible and something needs 2 be done to make things more balanced!

unless that is as ifrit says "you dont want challenges in wars" u want to be able to smash people no problem correct?

How long have you been playing and how long has your account been at the current ascension level?