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NanoBite wrote:Would be nice to suggest a sollution instead of just poking holes in peoples ideas.

Sarevok wrote:If it is the market PPTs (when buying resources with cash) that are the problem, then why not fix it.

So, instead of getting an hours PPT when you buy something (can be stretched to 1.5), why not just give no PPT, and instead put the resources in an additional broker? Or some button like we had with the Christmas gift. Then there's no need for a PPT, and if you need it to manage the resouces, you should have saved one of your own, or use an alliance PPT.

Say what?

And both 24 and 48 hours "cool down" makes little difference. Both periods allow for additional resources to be brokered away, and left in a broker for 48 hours, then going on vacation before they expire...

NanoBite wrote:And perhaps make it so that 3/4 of the ppt worth gets spent within the week the MTs are used. So you could only use 24 hours from last weeks ppt to use within the next.

What? So basically make PPT as complicated as possible so no one touches vacation OR PPT?

So it was ok for YoYo to use vacation mode and the black market when he challenged the Server to mass his defence?
viewtopic.php?f=101&t=147980&hilit=largest+defence+yoyo

And it was also ok for Fericide to do the same when he built a 106t defence?
viewtopic.php?f=68&t=173634&p=2204310&hilit=need+for+speed#p2204310

But now we need to change the game mechanics because you are having trouble massing C2, who is using the same tactics as YoYo and Fericide?

The Legion proved on two occasions that it can be done?
I massed YoYo and R8 massed Fericide (in 35 minutes) even with the new updates.
It just takes good planning and teamwork.

Now back to the real problem at hand, which is the combined effect of making defences more expensive to mass,
Alliance repairs and Alliance PPT.

Fix the problem. No more band aids that just fester and make things worse!

Sarevok wrote: ... Say what? ....

Yeah sorry your right, just felt like getting criticism on what I tried to add

Sarevok wrote:And both 24 and 48 hours "cool down" makes little difference. Both periods allow for additional resources to be brokered away, and left in a broker for 48 hours, then going on vacation before they expire...

But it would leave a larger time window to be engaged in battle right.

Sarevok wrote:

NanoBite wrote:And perhaps make it so that 3/4 of the ppt worth gets spent within the week the MTs are used. So you could only use 24 hours from last weeks ppt to use within the next.

What? So basically make PPT as complicated as possible so no one touches vacation OR PPT?

Well, it wouldnt make it simpler, thats for sure, but perhaps the statement of, 'only 24 hours of a weeks MTs are able to be used in the next week' and 'Vacation may only be used once every 30 days'.
Doesnt realy sound that hard to me tbh.

Anyway, the problem is that people are annoyed by people being on ppt and vacation a lot of the time, which is fully understandable as nothing is more annnoying then an elusive foe with lots of nice things to destroy, especially if they ride top ranked positions in the game for a long time.

Perhaps, but I don't know why there's such a problem. There's nothing those players can do but bank and wait.

And as I'm sure MANY have boasted, growth is much easier farming/raiding. And there no real playing the game if you can't be taken over.

Just my opinion

Robe wrote:So it was ok for YoYo to use vacation mode and the black market when he challenged the Server to mass his defence?
viewtopic.php?f=101&t=147980&hilit=largest+defence+yoyo

And it was also ok for Fericide to do the same when he built a 106t defence?
viewtopic.php?f=68&t=173634&p=2204310&hilit=need+for+speed#p2204310

But now we need to change the game mechanics because you are having trouble massing C2, who is using the same tactics as YoYo and Fericide?

The Legion proved on two occasions that it can be done?
I massed YoYo and R8 massed Fericide (in 35 minutes) even with the new updates.
It just takes good planning and teamwork.

Now back to the real problem at hand, which is the combined effect of making defences more expensive to mass,
Alliance repairs and Alliance PPT.

Fix the problem. No more band aids that just fester and make things worse!

lol I think JT earlier post speaks volumes

Jedi~Tank wrote:I dont want the playing field leveled..?

Personally I dont like alliance PPT or alliance repair or this vacation mode abuse by anyone, and all these issues need to be addressed IMO

BUT it is clear the people who admin listens to want it all their way, their stats protected and everyone else's vulnerable.

KnowLedge wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:I dont want the playing field leveled..why bring laziness up and hard workers down?

maybe cause this is supposed to be an online game where people dont have to sit in front of a computer all day to make progress? you are not supposed to put hardwork in a computer game <-- just my opinion though..

havent read the whole thing.. but all MMORPGS take a certain ammount of grind time..
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as for the 1 week idea in the intro

Just made me LOL at some of these posts...

Classic

Another couple of ideas to this:

Why is PPT time hidden? It'll be far funnier to have your protected minutes time on your display page.

ie:

Name: C2
~Hunter~
[ ThePiratePanties - Sniper]
The Origin of Existence of the INDU
{Temporarily on the Protected Planets Treaty...for 2,160 Minutes}

You can co-ordinate attacks and don't have to spend hours sitting online trying to catch 'em...if people are lazy enough to miss their PPT end, then it's their problem - someone is gonna get it!

Another thing...get rid of merlins...what a waste and joke of a feature...seriously? Being able to make huge changes to your account and then just make it untouchable...right?

On to Vacation, get rid of it...full stop. Yup, I go on holiday and yup, I turn into a farm...but you shouldn't be able to hide. I mean, if this game was real...you couldn't say..."everyone stop hitting me...I'm going to Cuba for the week.."

Alliance PPTs, normal PPTs, $$$ PPTs, USS/SS Merlins...the lot, the hiding...it's all crap. There was a war recently that I participated where one of their members didn't hit me once, had 3 great planets perma-merlined and insisted on 1m spies on level 36 with 1T defence...nothing was worth massing and he therefore wasn't a good farm...4.5 days PPT and 2.5 days of nothing...

Then again, if you don't like it. You know where the off switch is

Field Marshall wrote:Just made me LOL at some of these posts...

Classic

Another couple of ideas to this:

Why is PPT time hidden? It'll be far funnier to have your protected minutes time on your display page.

ie:

Name: C2
~Hunter~
[ ThePiratePanties - Sniper]
The Origin of Existence of the INDU
{Temporarily on the Protected Planets Treaty...for 2,160 Minutes}

lol nice idea, but I recon every time someone missed a PPT 10 people would hit them on the turntickover and the server would meltdown

looks like hunting C2 def has become a game issue for some.

Alliance PPT must not ever count to postpone vacation due to different game styles of members of one alliance. and how many times one goes in vac and how long the acc stays is personal game play strategy.
cuz a few are chasing a defence game has not to change

Field Marshall wrote:Just made me LOL at some of these posts...

Classic

Another couple of ideas to this:

Why is PPT time hidden? It'll be far funnier to have your protected minutes time on your display page.

ie:

Name: C2
~Hunter~
[ ThePiratePanties - Sniper]
The Origin of Existence of the INDU
{Temporarily on the Protected Planets Treaty...for 2,160 Minutes}

You can co-ordinate attacks and don't have to spend hours sitting online trying to catch 'em...if people are lazy enough to miss their PPT end, then it's their problem - someone is gonna get it!

Another thing...get rid of merlins...what a waste and joke of a feature...seriously? Being able to make huge changes to your account and then just make it untouchable...right?

On to Vacation, get rid of it...full stop. Yup, I go on holiday and yup, I turn into a farm...but you shouldn't be able to hide. I mean, if this game was real...you couldn't say..."everyone stop hitting me...I'm going to Cuba for the week.."

Alliance PPTs, normal PPTs, $$$ PPTs, USS/SS Merlins...the lot, the hiding...it's all crap. There was a war recently that I participated where one of their members didn't hit me once, had 3 great planets perma-merlined and insisted on 1m spies on level 36 with 1T defence...nothing was worth massing and he therefore wasn't a good farm...4.5 days PPT and 2.5 days of nothing...

Then again, if you don't like it. You know where the off switch is

I am all for the concept of removing all of what you said, if it included unlimited ATs. Then again you can imagine the amount of tears that would be produced over such a radical idea.

The problem is always in players. Not in game. Of course, few changes were done. But...

So whats the outcome for now?
alliance \PPT dont affect vacation
$$PPT do affect vacation


the rest, well... allaince repair and allaince PPT... sucks as well... if those to remove, than only both at once.

Robe wrote:So it was ok for YoYo to use vacation mode and the black market when he challenged the Server to mass his defence?
viewtopic.php?f=101&t=147980&hilit=largest+defence+yoyo

And it was also ok for Fericide to do the same when he built a 106t defence?
viewtopic.php?f=68&t=173634&p=2204310&hilit=need+for+speed#p2204310

But now we need to change the game mechanics because you are having trouble massing C2, who is using the same tactics as YoYo and Fericide?

The Legion proved on two occasions that it can be done?
I massed YoYo and R8 massed Fericide (in 35 minutes) even with the new updates.
It just takes good planning and teamwork.

Now back to the real problem at hand, which is the combined effect of making defences more expensive to mass,
Alliance repairs and Alliance PPT.

Fix the problem. No more band aids that just fester and make things worse!

When was I on vacation while I had that defense? never thats when.
I entered vacation (one which was already planned) later the day I got massed.

as far as $$ PPTs go I may have purchased some AT once or twice but I wasn't sitting there using the BM to stay on ppt.

My defense being massed is NOT relevant to this discussion regarding Vacation mode as I was not in vacation at all during this timeframe. please take your nonsense elsewhere.

Its funny how you can just make something up and people will believe you. but hey what else isn't new.

I don't think it's vacation mode that needs changing, more a reduction in PPT mode.

Lithium wrote:looks like hunting C2 def has become a game issue for some.

When you put this and other threads together it certainly seems like a case of fix the problem that protects my enemies stats, but dont fix the problem that protects my allies stats.

Tekki wrote:I don't think it's vacation mode that needs changing, more a reduction in PPT mode.

Agreed.