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Re: Bank size for new accounts

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:23 am
by Tharkun
5T seems a pretty reasonable amount to me, presuming that a 1% increase is at least 50 bil and more as you grow which I assume it would be.

I'm not sure a change to current accounts is needed as many bank sizes out there will never really be caught up with in the near future anyway.

Re: Bank size for new accounts

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:35 am
by noone
NanoBite wrote:This is a good idea for new players, enticing them to stay and do more 'fun stuff' in game. (well, quicker at least)


The following is simple to implement and could work well:

How about a 5T bank for the first 60 days after a new player is registered ?

After the 60 days it goes back to normal.
In those 2 months, when a player required it, they will have grown to a size where they can do a lot more.



This will also prevent small multi accounts being used to store lots of naq.

edit:
As compensation for the already registered players, you could introduce a 60 day periode of at least 5T bank size server wide, after releasing the update.

Larger accounts wont have much benefit, but hey ..

Re: Bank size for new accounts

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:08 pm
by Juliette
Tharkun wrote:5T seems a pretty reasonable amount to me, presuming that a 1% increase is at least 50 bil and more as you grow which I assume it would be.

I'm not sure a change to current accounts is needed as many bank sizes out there will never really be caught up with in the near future anyway.

Silly Tharkun. ;) 1% of 5T IS 50B. :P

Re: Bank size for new accounts

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:09 pm
by noone
Eärendil wrote:I don't think a time limit will help any multi issues, they can just keep creating new ones if there was a time limit.


True, true.

Perhaps have it removed when ascending for the first time ?

Accounts would have to get farmed and let go.
When someone is suspected of doing this, its very easy to back track.

Re: Bank size for new accounts

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:19 pm
by Juliette
Eärendil wrote:That'd work.

I think it was said, make it a Tech then, 5 levels? 1T gained per lvl at a 100b cost.

:smt060

Re: Bank size for new accounts

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:21 pm
by Tharkun
Juliette wrote:
Tharkun wrote:5T seems a pretty reasonable amount to me, presuming that a 1% increase is at least 50 bil and more as you grow which I assume it would be.

I'm not sure a change to current accounts is needed as many bank sizes out there will never really be caught up with in the near future anyway.

Silly Tharkun. ;) 1% of 5T IS 50B. :P


Haha I know it is! :smt042 What I'm saying is that I'm presuming they will actually give you that as your starting 100% of your bank and therefore a 1% would be 50 bil but as you grow obviously that would increase. Rather than be given 5T but it not actually being your starting 100% bank size and finding you still only get a 1% increase of whatever your army size allows you.
Hope that made sense.

For example I have a bank size of 5.5 tril, measley I know, but a 1% increase to my bank is actually only about 17 bil.

Also was the tech suggestion not that when unascended you could buy a tech upgrade that would increase your bank up to a maximum of 1000% and then for Prior it was 500% etc until 100% for AG?
Surely that wouldn't fix the issue of players that have ascended to UnKnown but still have relatively small banks as that could still happen with new players.

Or was it meant that the 1000% upgrade would stick after ascension and then it could be further upgraded by 500% and so on and so forth?
In which case that seems a little bit excessive.

Re: Bank size for new accounts

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:20 pm
by Urke
NanoBite wrote:
NanoBite wrote:This is a good idea for new players, enticing them to stay and do more 'fun stuff' in game. (well, quicker at least)


The following is simple to implement and could work well:

How about a 5T bank for the first 60 days after a new player is registered ?

After the 60 days it goes back to normal.
In those 2 months, when a player required it, they will have grown to a size where they can do a lot more.



This will also prevent small multi accounts being used to store lots of naq.

edit:
As compensation for the already registered players, you could introduce a 60 day periode of at least 5T bank size server wide, after releasing the update.

Larger accounts wont have much benefit, but hey ..



My own example...

Just started my way to the last ascension with AS around 250mil. My current BS is 67T ...

Tell me how the hell I can buy C lvl 35 without bugging others ?

As we all know how expensive are BBs now... Making BBs soooo expensive was really baaaad idea.

Ty Jason =D>

-RL

Re: Bank size for new accounts

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:04 pm
by noone
Urke wrote:
NanoBite wrote:
NanoBite wrote:This is a good idea for new players, enticing them to stay and do more 'fun stuff' in game. (well, quicker at least)


The following is simple to implement and could work well:

How about a 5T bank for the first 60 days after a new player is registered ?

After the 60 days it goes back to normal.
In those 2 months, when a player required it, they will have grown to a size where they can do a lot more.



This will also prevent small multi accounts being used to store lots of naq.

edit:
As compensation for the already registered players, you could introduce a 60 day periode of at least 5T bank size server wide, after releasing the update.

Larger accounts wont have much benefit, but hey ..



My own example...

Just started my way to the last ascension with AS around 250mil. My current BS is 67T ...

Tell me how the hell I can buy C lvl 35 without bugging others ?

As we all know how expensive are BBs now... Making BBs soooo expensive was really baaaad idea.

Ty Jason =D>

-RL



The idea was to make it easier for new registered users, as the game hasnt taken the years of inflation into account for the banksize of a newly created accounts.

In your situation, it sucks, and yes you most likely will have to rely on the help of others.

Re: Bank size for new accounts

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:32 am
by [BoT] Jason
Prevent multi use and link bank size to AT's used for the unascendeds


1k At's used = 1T bank size


Encourage activity, not give free ride

Re: Bank size for new accounts

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:05 am
by Tharkun
[BoT] Jason wrote:Prevent multi use and link bank size to AT's used for the unascendeds


1k At's used = 1T bank size


Encourage activity, not give free ride


Not a bad idea at all :)

Would it affect current accounts or just new ones? Perhaps any account already created with a bank size under 80T, or some other figure, could also be affected?

Re: Bank size for new accounts

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:22 am
by [BoT] Jason
Tharkun wrote:
[BoT] Jason wrote:Prevent multi use and link bank size to AT's used for the unascendeds


1k At's used = 1T bank size


Encourage activity, not give free ride


Not a bad idea at all :)

Would it affect current accounts or just new ones? Perhaps any account already created with a bank size under 80T, or some other figure, could also be affected?

Would have absolutely no effect on ascendeds, could also extend to Daimons to make them appealing

Re: Bank size for new accounts

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:47 am
by Tharkun
[BoT] Jason wrote:
Tharkun wrote:
[BoT] Jason wrote:Prevent multi use and link bank size to AT's used for the unascendeds


1k At's used = 1T bank size


Encourage activity, not give free ride


Not a bad idea at all :)

Would it affect current accounts or just new ones? Perhaps any account already created with a bank size under 80T, or some other figure, could also be affected?

Would have absolutely no effect on ascendeds, could also extend to Daimons to make them appealing


My thoughts were just that it doesn't help the many people who have ascended and have large army size but never got the advantages of alliance bank upgrades. Which people have stated there are quite a few out there including myself.
(Trying to stay as unbiased as possible but failing #-o) :smt042

Also, while here, can I just ask what was the reason for the increase in cost of alliance bank upgrades? Was it just to keep in line with the new costs of the other alliance gifts?
When reading the discussion on the new costs most people seemed to think only alliance repair and ppt needed to be increased as far as I could tell.

Re: Bank size for new accounts

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:32 pm
by snatch
[BoT] Jason wrote:Prevent multi use and link bank size to AT's used for the unascendeds


1k At's used = 1T bank size


Encourage activity, not give free ride


I am not playing long, but my activity is not bad.
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i would like 50T bank size, now I have 250m units, almost all trained in miners, and my bank is 6.2T If new players have 5T bank size since beginning, i would have 11T bank size. And it is much better, when i started I had barely 100b size after few days.