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Legendary Apophis wrote:That doesn't make it "racist". Also, this isn't about declaring it to be global holidays for the "real life world", but to be global announcements for this game's forum community.
Not to mention these three holidays aren't even based on a conflict or anything of that sort (for example: one country celebrating its victory against another in a war/conflict in a national holiday).

this forum have real people and the fests are for real people , not for races of the game.
if one national/international, religious fest is allowed then the section shall be free for other users to posts their fests no matter if they are in majority/minority of this community or diff religious.
this game/forum is not oriented as far as i know

Lithium wrote:

Legendary Apophis wrote:That doesn't make it "racist". Also, this isn't about declaring it to be global holidays for the "real life world", but to be global announcements for this game's forum community.
Not to mention these three holidays aren't even based on a conflict or anything of that sort (for example: one country celebrating its victory against another in a war/conflict in a national holiday).

this forum have real people and the fests are for real people , not for races of the game.
if one national/international, religious fest is allowed then the section shall be free for other users to posts their fests no matter if they are in majority/minority of this community or diff religious.
this game/forum is not oriented as far as i know

Nobody denied the right to post about holidays in this forum, the question here is which one(s) should be global announcements.

Legendary Apophis wrote:

Lithium wrote:

Legendary Apophis wrote:That doesn't make it "racist". Also, this isn't about declaring it to be global holidays for the "real life world", but to be global announcements for this game's forum community.
Not to mention these three holidays aren't even based on a conflict or anything of that sort (for example: one country celebrating its victory against another in a war/conflict in a national holiday).

this forum have real people and the fests are for real people , not for races of the game.
if one national/international, religious fest is allowed then the section shall be free for other users to posts their fests no matter if they are in majority/minority of this community or diff religious.
this game/forum is not oriented as far as i know

Nobody denied the right to post about holidays in this forum, the question here is which one(s) should be global announcements.

then why a certain fests shall appear more important then another ?

Lithium wrote:

Legendary Apophis wrote:

Lithium wrote:

Legendary Apophis wrote:That doesn't make it "racist". Also, this isn't about declaring it to be global holidays for the "real life world", but to be global announcements for this game's forum community.
Not to mention these three holidays aren't even based on a conflict or anything of that sort (for example: one country celebrating its victory against another in a war/conflict in a national holiday).

this forum have real people and the fests are for real people , not for races of the game.
if one national/international, religious fest is allowed then the section shall be free for other users to posts their fests no matter if they are in majority/minority of this community or diff religious.
this game/forum is not oriented as far as i know

Nobody denied the right to post about holidays in this forum, the question here is which one(s) should be global announcements.

then why a certain fests shall appear more important then another ?

Because it concerns a great majority of people of this forum? (90+%)
Global announcements regarding creation of new sections or announcing results of this or that event, doesn't concern the entire totality of members, and yet these are global announcements, and it is understandable.
Big minorities with national holidays bring the issue of conflict of interest between the different big national minorities (US, UK, Canada, Australia, Ireland, Slovenia, Hungary...) regarding why should a national holiday become global announcement, some would say the national holiday(s) from their nation being also greatly represented should also be. On the other hand, the examples (Christmas/New Year and maybe Easter) I provided concern the vast majority of the community including all of the above listed "big minorities" and many "medium sized minorities" (Netherlands, Germany, Belgium, Romania, Slovakia and other European/Commonwealth nations...). That's why said holidays more than others should be global announcements.

if this forum is religious oriented and based on western culture and thus make it prevail the other cultures then it shall be STATED when a member register to this forum. if not then i see this forum as RACIST and as DISCRIMINATOR vs minorities. wit this said im concluding that if i see such religious announcements to Global ill bring it MGM as discriminating policy of this forum.

Lithium wrote:if this forum is religious oriented and based on western culture and thus make it prevail the other cultures then it shall be STATED when a member register to this forum. if not then i see this forum as RACIST and as DISCRIMINATOR vs minorities. wit this said im concluding that if i see such religious announcements to Global ill bring it MGM as discriminating policy of this forum.

Political correctness at its highest peak.

It's not that this forum is originally oriented to any particular culture, but the situation is clear that the majority of this forum comes from extended version of "western world". So just because <5% of all registered to forum (including active/inactive ones) are different from the 95% it means that the events concerning the vast majority shouldn't be highlighted? Let's be realistic for a second.

You have yet to provide a VALID argument why would it be racist. I don't expect any to be provided anyway, because it's nonsense to bring racism argument there. Neither Christmas nor New Year celebrate something like a military victory from a nation/ethny against another so this couldn't even be brought as a defending argument to the false accusation of racism.
Discriminatory? As I said, political correctness argument brought doesn't make it any valid. Because nobody said only threads related to western culture should be posted, it's about global announcement not right to post something. If it was about right to post, then yes it could be considered as discriminatory but as it's NOT the case here, your argument is therefore invalid.

To use a famous saying to sum up this nonsensical accusation: "making mountains out of molehills" and I might add, just for the sake of doing it.

Lithium wrote:if this forum is religious oriented and based on western culture and thus make it prevail the other cultures then it shall be STATED when a member register to this forum. if not then i see this forum as RACIST and as DISCRIMINATOR vs minorities. wit this said im concluding that if i see such religious announcements to Global ill bring it MGM as discriminating policy of this forum.

If you are so damn unhappy **Filtered** off then you won't have a problem will you.

Geez people it was a god damn thread that was globaled for 1 day, ONE day!

Get over yourself and live your lives!

with that logic the muslims dont have the right to have their mosque in New York , yet they have it because there no official discrimination in New York against minorities.

You appear to slightly misunderstand the term "racist".

Something that is specific to a single nation or religious group and offensive to others isnt "racist". It might be "nationalistic" and generally disliked by others, but racism would be against specific human sub-races (caucasian, african, chinese, etc.). Discriminative is also a term that fits.

holidays that are purely religious (like easter is) are a bad idea to announce. Christmas or celebreations like it are more ok, since they're well on the way to becoming less religious, and have common tendencies in several religions. (multiple religions have celebration at that time of year)

New years is also simple. It can be celebrated, but if more than a few also want to celebrate another new years like chinese or such, then that too should come up. '

But only for a day or two. no such announcement should stick around long. Only forum/official game announcements are to stick around long.

The reason I would avoid globaling a Christmas thread is that not everyone who celebrates the holiday celebrates the same way. There is also Hanukkah/Chanukah, Solstice, Kwanzaa, Festivus, and several other holidays that are not necessarily American. Would the thread contain season's greetings to all of those holidays as well? Another problem I have: With a Christmas thread, would it focus on the Christian version of the holiday, or would it be focused more toward a fat man sneaking into children's houses?

New Year's is pretty much the same for everyone. It is perhaps the only non-bias or non-culture-specific holiday (except for Chinese New Year).

If it's one day, I see no real problem. The thing I have against Christmas is that it usually isn't just one day. People have parties leading up to it, sometimes even after it, and people walk around saying "Merry Christmas" for weeks before it even happens. I don't personally believe a thread about that particular holiday work out to be a one-day only kind of thread.

Psyko wrote:I don't personally believe a thread about that particular holiday work out to be a one-day only kind of thread.

That is how it has been in the past.

The Thanksgiving thread isn't the first time a holiday thread has been global'd.

Have threads for national holidays of other countries been global'd? I don't know, probably not. Why? Because no one makes threads for them.

Lithium wrote:with that logic the muslims dont have the right to have their mosque in New York , yet they have it because there no official discrimination in New York against minorities.

What is the link with making a thread a global announcement? None.
You cannot provide a valid argument why it would be "racist" to make New Year or Christmas a global announcement, because as I was believing, it's just for the sake of screaming offense.

[BoT] Jack wrote:

Psyko wrote:I don't personally believe a thread about that particular holiday work out to be a one-day only kind of thread.

That is how it has been in the past.

The Thanksgiving thread isn't the first time a holiday thread has been global'd.

Have threads for national holidays of other countries been global'd? I don't know, probably not. Why? Because no one makes threads for them.

Even if it is a one day thread, I already pointed out the other problems I have with the holiday.

i dont see why a specific holiday shall be globalized. it can just sit in with all other holidays in one section just for wishes.

aphophis i brought term racist and discrimination because u claimed that a holiday can be globalized just because there are more members that have it as a holiday. that results in discrimination

Lithium wrote:i dont see why a specific holiday shall be globalized. it can just sit in with all other holidays in one section just for wishes.

aphophis i brought term racist and discrimination because u claimed that a holiday can be globalized just because there are more members that have it as a holiday. that results in discrimination

No it doesn't, that's following the law of offer and demand about information, the more people would be interested/concerned by a subject/info, the more it would be reasonable to highlight it by a global announcement.
Also it's not because there are "more concerned people" (examples of national holidays that one country is a little more represented than another), it's about the vast majority. As I said already, nobody said threads made about minority-concerned holidays shouldn't be made because they concern a minority. Mixing up the two different cases is something wrong.

You talk about "minorities" all the time in your posts, but each nationality here is a more or less important minority given none represent more than 50.01% of the community, however the group of "minorities" celebrating new year/Christmas is clearly the majority (95% or so people from this forum).

If we go towards the road of "discrimination" yelling, it's discriminating towards the majority to say a international holiday concerning majority, shouldn't be global for the precise reason it's not politically correct to make a global announcement about a holiday concerning the majority just because few people aren't concerned by it.