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Don't see how bringing up a past history of you being a scammer is a "fail" when you have been claiming you only scammed a few people recently because you were planning to leave the game. what Cas has done is prove you have a LONG history of scamming.

I don't know you, nor your intentions, if you do genuinely intend to reform and play legit then great, but i and i am quite sure many others will never trust you.

It is a testament to the players that people like Hellsing and Seanyboy/The Architect have been accepted back into the community. With hard work and patience Fenrir may be as well, but it will not happen over night.

Fenrir~ wrote:

Castiel wrote:

Fenrir~ wrote:

Duck Dodgers wrote:

Fenrir~ wrote:

Duck Dodgers wrote:Actively seek out the people you screwed over and pay them back and have them post here about it .... then I will believe you.

Roket already took care of that he payed back what i scammed

I thought RoKeT gave the account to Clarkey ....

Do you have a list of people you scammed ?
With an eye of coming clean and all, it might be an idea to post who you scammed out of resources, but who did not know it was you.

I would not be surprised if people actually left the game because they got scammed out of their goods.

Clarkey gave the account back to me, and i scammed Vintage Viking only one and then Hellsing but that wasnt a scam since roket didnt pay him back, and VK got hes resourcers back and i have sent him apologi and gave him some extra uu.

Fenrir~ wrote:

Castiel wrote:You've been scamming for the past 3-4 years, you think you've payed back what you've scammed by paying back VK? Far from it.

Sorry to tell you but i am sure those players dont play the game anymore, so maybe you can tell me how to pay them back ?

You've just been caught in a lie.

Castiel what you are trying to do is just a fail, you cant bring up **Filtered** from 2008.
I dont remember anyones name that i scammed back in the days. But since you dont have anything better to do then throw **Filtered** around on this topic then you can try to find those players i scammed 4 years ago and ill pay them back

Cas was a much better player than you will ever be and obviously much more intelligent. Don't talk down to him. What you said was like saying 'Oh, you can't bring up 9/11 that was years ago'

Andy! wrote:What you said was like saying 'Oh, you can't bring up 9/11 that was years ago'

No, it absolutely is not. Bad Dandy.

Fenrir~ wrote:I want to let you all know i got my account back and i look at it as a new start ive learned my lesson and my scamms have been payed.
I am going to play the game fair and the way its suppost to be played, so all i am asking about is a second chance.

Whenever or wherever a scam can can take place, it usually does. You are not the first and you certainly won't be the last to try one.

You have come forward and admitted your error. In doing that and stating that you have made an effort to pay back losses wherever possible the to others - says to me that you deserve a second chance (no third though!).

A short story about my 'current' account.
After vowing never to return to the game, I did...(we always come back;)...

Initially (on my return) - I picked up a free god account from a friend...Who I introduced to the game just as I left.
I then decided to look around for a better account and came across a big unspoken account for sale for $80 (couldn't believe my luck!). The guy lived in Hungary, we jumped on msn & had a chat but had major problems with methods of payment (won't go into detail).

This seller had been previously scammed but managed to get the account back (minus half his army!)

He was coming to live in the UK the following month. I gained his trust and said the account was worth a little more and promised that if he transferred the login details to me now - then I would pay him £100 after he had arrived in the UK and set up a UK bank account. He arrived in the Uk in Feb, I had provided a phone number and on him contacting me paid the promised amount. Happy days for all

It was an easy opportunity for me to walk away with his account but that's not me.

Don't be a scammer - Him upstairs is watching you! ( So are we!

M

And Cas don't forget who introduced me to this game, old friend

Fenrir~ wrote:.

leopard can not change his spots

its a good thing that people are not leopards then, and can therefore through work and effort change themselves for the better...I wish you luck Fenrir, getting a second chance is relatively easy, but making it worth while and proving yourself, that my friend is the true test. I hope you do well.

let me get this straight..are you saying that Roket has basically paid YOUR scams? And if I were you, I'd be much more humble and stop insulting people. You have no reputation to stand on after all.

Eat **Filtered** you **Filtered**, scammer my ass, your a common thief.

Jedi~Tank wrote:Eat **Filtered** you **Filtered**, scammer my ass, your a common thief.

Eat **Filtered** you **Filtered** sucking **Filtered** !

Look, we all know that Fenrir~ has only changed his tune (or he says he has) because he got scammed himself, beaten at his own game.

He has not personally repaid what he scammed, it was forcibly repaid, but that's not to say he hasn't changed his tune.

There is a long list of scammers, hellsing, hellboy, seaanyboy, harchester, mofo, almost38, some of those are still welcome in the community and have changed their way, infact all of them except hellboy. So try giving Fenrir~ a chance to redeem himself.

Anyone that doesn't shouldn't really be nice to anyone that's scammed in the past otherwise you'd be hypocritical.

Fenrir~ wrote:And Cas don't forget who introduced me to this game, old friend

May have introduced you to this game, but never introduced you to ripping people off.

Castiel wrote:

Fenrir~ wrote:And Cas don't forget who introduced me to this game, old friend

May have introduced you to this game, but never introduced you to ripping people off.

You got that right

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:let me get this straight..are you saying that Roket has basically paid YOUR scams? And if I were you, I'd be much more humble and stop insulting people. You have no reputation to stand on after all.

You can say that again.

Fenrir, don't insult Castiel, he's a great honorable player. In fact, in real life and in SGW, he has turned out to be one of my greatest and best of friends. Not once have I not been able to count on him. He's trying to tell you that you have more to apologize for then just those couple of scams. Don't insult people that point out the errors of your ways.

After all, you're the one asking for a second chance.

-KJ