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Mathlord wrote:Another question...will this new account in main have a corresponding ascended account, or will it have the powers of an ascended account without the ability to be descended? If you tie it in with a pre-built main account, then it can have an ascended account associated with it, whose descension may affect both the original main and the new "newgrounds" main account. Even if that's the case, someone may invest in just getting a newgrounds account instead and never have to worry about being descended ever.

If it gets its own ascended account, then we now have 4 accounts we must deal with at a time...getting hairy...

never thought of this. perhaps once an ascended ng account is created, the user has an opportunity to merge it with an existing main ascended account in order to reduce it to 3, if this is descended, both main accounts are descended.

I mean that would get complicated too...odds are you should be given a separate ascended account to go with it, or watch people flock in droves to building up their now undescendable newgrounds account...getting to 38/38 would only cost a few hundred dollars, the sky is the limit after that.

I look forward to seeing who will try to power through the newgrounds ascensions as fast as possible to test all of this out...

i am, but im not the most active, so im sure somebody will beat me there.

SuperSaiyan wrote:The last meet I was at (or the one before it) Jason said it would come with an ascended account that would be from scratch.

So I guess you get two multis, one for each server.

^ what the pirate said.

How will you guys deal with it when someone with same username/password/email combo ascends to main, how do you differentiate between them when logging in?

Has Admin Jason ruled on whether or not those of us with Main Server accounts are allowed to have a Newgrounds account or two in addition to our Main Server account?

(As this raises the possibility of fighting 3 accounts on ascended, per person...
versus me, with one ascended account.)

I am not inherently opposed to multiple accounts, provided that each are different,
like the old unascended races, and, more importantly, strictly for learning purposes,
and follow all of the following guidelines, and whatever else is thought of.

ie: max army size: 5 mil, aka, pitiful.
max mothership: pitiful.
max covert levels: pitiful.
and all other things: pitiful.

trading: person to person trading, direct sending, and brokers:
limited to 1000 naq, 100 uu, and no more than 10 Attack Turns?

PPT: lol, maybe, but only with major restrictions,
like a public counter on the stats page:
this realm will be dropping PPT in 23:55:34 / 1,435 minutes.

alliances, CO - officer relationships: HELL NO.

IP sharing: HELL NO.

Proxy Servers: HELL NO.

$$: just for the privilege and the cost of keeping the users in line...
maybe even open a separate newgrounds-like server, but with no direct connection to Main, etc.

Must register and declare all of your holdings with the Nox Guards, aka, dedicated Admins, no exceptions.

Bed checks: nightly.

I think that I would make a decent bureaucrat.

U do realize its gonna take over 12 months,(most likely) to get from Newgrounds to Main?

Will still be restrictions on attacking etc from same IP.

There is another thread I believe!

i thought newgrounds ascended to ascended, and that you could have two newgrounds accounts?

Nope.

When you ascend finally in NG, u get a Main account.

Imperius wrote:U do realize its gonna take over 12 months,(most likely) to get from Newgrounds to Main?

Will still be restrictions on attacking etc from same IP.

There is another thread I believe!

because those restrictions already work so well?

They do, reasonably. If no exceptions were made available, which they aren't going to be in NG.

Merged. Discussion is to remain in this thread.

Your banners are funny, Tetris.
Not going to change anything, but I wholeheartedly agree, multies are illegal.
NG-Main-accounts, however, are not, and will never be illegal.


(Thanks for the merge, boss.)

curtthehurt1 wrote:im not completely sold on the multi buisness of this, as that would seem to give a lot of an advantage. if it were my suggestion I would simply add a special ascension available that gives a bigger 5% bonus. make it so that once you complete newgrounds and you already have a main account it just adds one extra available ascension (24th) or if you dont it automatically creates one that is halfway ascended and programmed to allow a 24th ascension. doesnt give everyone with time/money any overpowered bonuses, and you dont have two accounts on main to try to keep up with. would make it easier for selling too because you would be back at just main and ascended.

Just thinking out loud, though I know next to nothing about programming and what is realistically achievable to program in.

I like that idea. Also, said ascension shouldn't be available with 10$ ascension, because it's an additional one. But they would get double APP if they decided to ascend that last extra time to compensate lack of 10$ ascension option. And no ascended multi, would just give extra stuff there. Because seriously, managing four accounts...I can see how this would be an horrible mess with "legal" multies in both servers. (this being a way to stock uu for main account for example, have one of the two being on PPT for four days and transfer stuff from one to another and you get perma PPT to stockpile naq and uu by transfering...)

Dubby_CompGamerGeek2 wrote:i thought newgrounds ascended to ascended, and that you could have two newgrounds accounts?

No.
NewGrounds ascends to Main after ascending at level 20. It is a training pool for newbie players.
Ascendees get an average account to start Main with, clearly marked as a NewGrounds-Main. They are unable to play NewGrounds for a time (month/week..not sure which atm), and when that time is up, they get back their now level 25 NewGrounds account.


NewGrounds players 'transcend' to Main, from where they 'ascend' to Ascended.
Jim counted incorrectly. Existing Main players would end up with 5 accounts (Main, Asc, NG, NG-Main, NG-Asc).
NewGrounds is not meant for Main players, but they can play it. You will understand that we make policy based on our target player base (new, non-Main playing registrants), not on lone gunmen who figure they can manage multiple accounts.

Legendary Apophis wrote:

curtthehurt1 wrote:im not completely sold on the multi buisness of this, as that would seem to give a lot of an advantage. if it were my suggestion I would simply add a special ascension available that gives a bigger 5% bonus. make it so that once you complete newgrounds and you already have a main account it just adds one extra available ascension (24th) or if you dont it automatically creates one that is halfway ascended and programmed to allow a 24th ascension. doesnt give everyone with time/money any overpowered bonuses, and you dont have two accounts on main to try to keep up with. would make it easier for selling too because you would be back at just main and ascended.

Just thinking out loud, though I know next to nothing about programming and what is realistically achievable to program in.

...I can see how this would be an horrible mess with "legal" multies in both servers. (this being a way to stock uu for main account for example, have one of the two being on PPT for four days and transfer stuff from one to another and you get perma PPT to stockpile naq and uu by transfering...)

I think most people are forgetting, this option to have multies (ONLY ONE) is available to everyone, so there aren't any advantages.
As far as I recall admin is throwing away the 'brothers, sisters, mother, father, cat and dog playing from the same IP' business by only allowing one account set per IP, which will break apart a fair few multi's (more than one account set) anyway.