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Re: Speed Massing

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:25 pm
by Borek
no you mean a defense can fall in under a minute if they are not repairing, with this change you will simply be unable to mass a defense that has an online enemy repairing. I don't like the 5s speed masses myself, but this change has ruined the entire "onliner" deal people love.

5s is too fast, but a minute...do me a favour, that's ridiculous, should be able to mass in 20s or so imo.

And no Math, the change is a 2 tier one, 6 attacks every 2s OR 40 every 20s, so it's actually 30s, with the 1st 40 going through faster, then having a big-ish delay before you can attack again which is actually making it very easy for repairs.

Re: Speed Massing

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:26 pm
by Kjarkur
Interesting. Can't wait for next onliner. Will actually be about who's truly quick, not who's using what browser.

-KJ

Re: Speed Massing

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:27 pm
by Drought
Tek wrote:Well either it's not what i used to do, or someone put much more thought into it then i did :D

I can't think of many wars where people haven't seemingly utilised this against me, and that includes pretty much every major alliance post 2006.

Strange it didn't become an issue until 2012 :shock: Anywho's, if it's determined a bug it should be removed from being used across the board so good luck with this i guess.


yup, it is more of a chrome issue, chrome only became a more commonly used browser in the last year, and like I said, its trick isn't know to many. For chrome, it wasn't also as simple as going to the attack options, 15, tab and hit and hold enter ....

you had to do a manual spy first, then click the again button, and on that screen (with more attack options) fill in the 15 for the attack and hold enter after a tab .... quite a few that didnt know that ;)

Re: Speed Massing

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:29 pm
by Calibretto
So whats the problem? Install Chrome... :smt115

Re: Speed Massing

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:30 pm
by doc holliday
Are theirr maybe some real bugs admin can fix as well while he's at it? :-)

Re: Speed Massing

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:31 pm
by Kjarkur
Calibretto wrote:So whats the problem? Install Chrome... :smt115


This game shouldn't depend on browsers. Everyone should be able to play this game, equally.

-KJ

Re: Speed Massing

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:32 pm
by Calibretto
KJ with a war/war-setting it was always easy to mass.

Re: Speed Massing

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:34 pm
by Kjarkur
Yes.

And motherships had been pointless for quite a while but was just fixed a couple of weeks ago.

Just because something has been broken for a while doesn't mean it shouldn't get fixed.

Re: Speed Massing

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:34 pm
by Borek
tbh you don't need chrome, even FF is only a bit slower and you can still take someone out in 20s with it. As for it not being well known then i was using this during the server war and it was certainly widespread back then as i am sure Mathlord and others can confirm.

Of course the game did not allow attacks that fast very often back then as Nox delay was different and not negated by war, had to get lucky with a ppt ending to actually get the fast mass in back then, assuming they dropped without resetting Nox.

Re: Speed Massing

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:35 pm
by Rudy Peña
Kjarkur wrote:
Calibretto wrote:So whats the problem? Install Chrome... :smt115


This game shouldn't depend on browsers. Everyone should be able to play this game, equally.

-KJ

So punish people for using a certain browser of there choice.

Cause you need to whine and cry about getting massed too fast, but yet never once have you cried and whine when you were doing the same thing to others.


This is a simple cause of you cant handle what is used against others that is now turned on you.

Just cowards.

Re: Speed Massing

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:40 pm
by Gandy 181
so there is actully real bugs in this game

who is honestly running the show dame

duck complains and it changes overnight

before hand ppl have been complaining for months about real probs and nothing

this underlines one thing dde are sore losers

Re: Speed Massing

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:41 pm
by Rudy Peña
Gandy 181 wrote:so there is actully real bugs in this game

who is honestly running the show dame

duck complains and it changes overnight

before hand ppl have been complaining for months about real probs and nothing

this underlines one thing dde are sore losers

+1,000,000,000

Re: Speed Massing

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:44 pm
by Drought
Please refrain from accusations and unneeded discussions in relation to who is doing what to who.


This topic is about a bug report where a technique could be applied to use a commonly accepted flaw in the game but then at much higher rate.

info: that attack button normally gets disabled when you clicked it once.


No one bothered to assist the game admin with it over the years, I did.
By assisting the game admin with a workable solution this matter has finally been addressed.

Re: Speed Massing

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:50 pm
by ~wolverine~
hahahahah you guys are the sore losers complaining.

I lost out too ya know, I knew the trick and i was annoyed but fixing something that didnt work in the first place because it was exploited is just something that happens.

Re: Speed Massing

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:52 pm
by Kjarkur
Always the same people, can only do insults but not actually discuss and debate. And maybe working together on solutions?

Davinci and I have been talking on MSN actually working on it instead of just throwing accusations and insults at each other.

He dislikes the update and I'm don't. So we discuss it and do calcs and aim towards improving it so we both like it.

Admin Jason took a step in the right direction here.

And really? Sore losers? Who are the ones who say they wont fight now coz they can't have their browser do it for them?

-KJ