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So, on the very last ascension when I get to it, I should hold off until I have enough AP to get like 500 tril LF so I can continue converting to LF long after I am done ascending? This will make my ascension account kick butt in a few years. I wasted my first 2 ascensions, but I will hold off on each one from now on until I get enough APP to make the most out of my ascensions.

**Filtered** wrote:So, on the very last ascension when I get to it, I should hold off until I have enough AP to get like 500 tril LF so I can continue converting to LF long after I am done ascending? This will make my ascension account kick butt in a few years. I wasted my first 2 ascensions, but I will hold off on each one from now on until I get enough APP to make the most out of my ascensions.

Umm, no

The largest single amount of Life Force you can get by converting your APP is 100 Tril. Converting APP into LF uses ALL of the APP, regardless of how much you have. If you save up enough for 500t LF, you will end up with 100t LF and 0 APP after converting.

This is untrue. It converts 100T worth of APP, and leaves the rest. When converting for ATs, it does use them all up.

Clockwork wrote:

**Filtered** wrote:So, on the very last ascension when I get to it, I should hold off until I have enough AP to get like 500 tril LF so I can continue converting to LF long after I am done ascending? This will make my ascension account kick butt in a few years. I wasted my first 2 ascensions, but I will hold off on each one from now on until I get enough APP to make the most out of my ascensions.

Umm, no

The largest single amount of Life Force you can get by converting your APP is 100 Tril. Converting APP into LF uses ALL of the APP, regardless of how much you have. If you save up enough for 500t LF, you will end up with 100t LF and 0 APP after converting.

Clockwork wrote:

**Filtered** wrote:So, on the very last ascension when I get to it, I should hold off until I have enough AP to get like 500 tril LF so I can continue converting to LF long after I am done ascending? This will make my ascension account kick butt in a few years. I wasted my first 2 ascensions, but I will hold off on each one from now on until I get enough APP to make the most out of my ascensions.

Umm, no

The largest single amount of Life Force you can get by converting your APP is 100 Tril. Converting APP into LF uses ALL of the APP, regardless of how much you have. If you save up enough for 500t LF, you will end up with 100t LF and 0 APP after converting.

As juliette mostly said, this isn't the case, it will convert up to 100 trill, so if you have 500 trill, it will convert 100 trill leaving 400 trill then you're required to wait then you can convert another 100 trill etc.

When did this change? All of my app was used in return for 100t when you first introduced the cap.

Edit: anyway **Filtered**, it sounds like your plan will work, although I would probably invest in your ascended before you reach unknown, otherwise you will be an easy kill in any war you find yourself in.

Clockwork wrote:When did this change? All of my app was used in return for 100t when you first introduced the cap.

Always been like that, the idea was to slow down not kill off completely.

Clockwork wrote:When did this change? All of my app was used in return for 100t when you first introduced the cap.

Edit: anyway **Filtered**, it sounds like your plan will work, although I would probably invest in your ascended before you reach unknown, otherwise you will be an easy kill in any war you find yourself in.

I wont get up to my last ascension for at least 2 years. I have only ascended twice, and I am taking my time.

What are decent Ascended stats at this point to hold your own?

Shezmu wrote:What are decent Ascended stats at this point to hold your own?

Getting your personals to 800 will stand you in good stead of being hard to descend (possible but will take enough time for you to catch it and refill your life force).

Get your CER to a decent level, say 800,000 or so. And your physical levels to around 1400.

Depends what you want to do, some people just get defense personals up high to make them tough to decend, others work on physicals and get crazy high attack /devs etc etc.

You should work on the 'achievements' that Sol added to the game, they will steer you in the right direction of getting a good account

Yea what Clockwork

If you can get to the Articulated Entities Achievement your account is look good

Clockwork wrote:

Shezmu wrote:What are decent Ascended stats at this point to hold your own?

Getting your personals to 800 will stand you in good stead of being hard to descend (possible but will take enough time for you to catch it and refill your life force).

Get your CER to a decent level, say 800,000 or so. And your physical levels to around 1400.

Depends what you want to do, some people just get defense personals up high to make them tough to decend, others work on physicals and get crazy high attack /devs etc etc.

You should work on the 'achievements' that Sol added to the game, they will steer you in the right direction of getting a good account

Thanks!

You have used all your power to convert the maximal amount of life force (100 trill) or converted to turns on November 19th at 06:25:22 AM gametime you can convert to life force again April 18th at 07:25:22 AM gametime

15,004,085 Ascension Points Available. Will return 6,329,718,323,972 Ascended Life Force

NOTE: You can convert roughly 100 trill life force at a time, with a 5 month wait before the next conversion. Alternatively you can convert ALL of your APP at once to gain a full refill in turns (minimum of 18,000 points and 2 weeks inbetween conversion), both conversions totally drain your power and thus are classed as full conversions (meaning you must wait before any other conversion).

Okay I guess I didn't read the info in the game properly or maybe its a little confusing. I transferred roughly 18K APP to refill turns earlier today for the tournament. Then just a few moments ago I ascended to LG on the main server with the idea that I could use those APP to exchange for life force. I figured there is a two week wait between the two conversions. I get a message saying that I have to wait 5 months before I can use those APP to power up my account. I earned more on this ascension than I have on any of my others and it does not amount to more than 100 trill LF any way I slice it.

So what I am to understand that is if you use the turn refill you automatically have to wait the five months to use the APP from ascensions? Is this a bug or intentional? Maybe you could warn others of that little quirk if it is intentional. On the other hand, if its a bug, perhaps you could tell me what the actual intention is? Is it a two week wait or a five month wait? And can I please use my APP sooner than April? I know there's no way I have earned 100 trillion life force from Ascended Power Points in my first five (and smaller) ascensions.

So wait, if I understand this correctly...

You can convert APP to LFF (max 100trills) every 5months.

Or you can convert APP to turns every 2 weeks.

But what If I do 100trills ascension and then convert APP to LFF and get 100trills LF?

I obviously have to wait 5 months before I can do another APP to LFF conversion, but in 2 weeks I can do APP to Turns conversion ?

Or I have to wait 5 months for any conversion?

I understand that APP to turns can happen every 2 weeks, but I'm confused as how does APP to LFF impact this... whether you have to wait 5months to convert turns or just 2

ThakalluS wrote:So wait, if I understand this correctly...

You can convert APP to LFF (max 100trills) every 5months.

Or you can convert APP to turns every 2 weeks.

But what If I do 100trills ascension and then convert APP to LFF and get 100trills LF?

I obviously have to wait 5 months before I can do another APP to LFF conversion, but in 2 weeks I can do APP to Turns conversion ?

Or I have to wait 5 months for any conversion?

I understand that APP to turns can happen every 2 weeks, but I'm confused as how does APP to LFF impact this... whether you have to wait 5months to convert turns or just 2

It works on the same time, so consider it something like this: If you convert your APP the time goes +5 months, if you convert turns it's +2 weeks. The time must lapse before you convert again. I'll split it later, when I can be bothered. Either or, you will still loose all of your APP when you convert to turns anyway.

@sol

please sort this out, you are aware of the problem.

I converted for turns 18k APP = got refill

then ascended

now cannot convert APP to life force for 5 months

look at my account, you will see i have neve done an ascension that would get me anywhere near 100 trill life force from converting, ive ascended 3 times since the update and most im gettin from APP to LF conversion is around 20 trill life force (for all 3) look at my account you know im telling the truth!!!
PLEASE MAKE EACH CONVERSION A STAND ALONE THING.

ive got to wait 5 months to convert APP to refill my turns, because i havent finished ascending
others are in the same boat as me (hence all the threads / topics)