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Re: The best way to fight organized criminality...

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:09 am
by Juliette
Lithium wrote:criminality will be higher and higher if no proper education is given to people, no proper future life to live , the issue need to be fought in its roots while trying to isolate it. the problem of those called Elite is can we handle all this?????? does this mean they have to create a society where they dotn rule anymore .... yes and they wont do it .... when things will go wrong they ll just wait till we eat each-other.


do u remember Merlin movie... what he said to ppl : Forget about Morgana just ignore her and she ll disappear ..... can we...no ,...because they holds yr lifes....admit it we are already slaves.....
but theres hope ...remember 50 years ago ppl werent even discussing this stuff but now we more sensible all around the globe.
True, 50 years ago it was either the Jews, the Russians, the Nazis or the West which was blamed for every single man **Filtered** up his/her life. I guess consolidating that into 1 single imaginary enemy does constitute progress.. (wait, no, more likely a lack of imagination and increased global communication.)

It is the jealousy of the success of others. The lunacy of the 1%-idea proves beyond a shadow of doubt that it is all bull, invented by failures. ;)

Re: The best way to fight organized criminality...

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:16 am
by Legendary Apophis
Juliette wrote:The NWO-concept was abused by people who are too cowardly to admit their own damned failure in life. An excuse, if you will, for everything that is wrong with this world; from joblessness to environmental clusterfraks.

NWO is the new Jews of the 1930's, witches of the 1500's; it is the same Medieval amygdala-thinking in the population which makes something that exists (in the case of NWO, a rather harmless movement for World Government; in the case of Jews, rather harmless rich upper class Jews and successful businessmen; in the case of witches, either feminist / beautiful or curious -to sciences- women) into something horrible (in the case of NWO, a monstrosity that eats our children and is birthed by Satan himself; in the case of Jews a Zionist World Government -hey?- and job-stealing inbreeders; and in the case of witches, Satan-worshipping crazy women who would devour man's virtue and soul). Ooh, scary. *shudders*

It really is nothing new. Anyone stupid enough to get stuck in that Dark Age thinking is not worth the light of day. What is next? Storming those you consider 'sinful' with pitchforks and fire? (Oh, right, Occupy already does that..) No wonder someone needs to intervene; the general population is increasingly under the spell of the Dark Ages (with every 'awakening' humanity dies a little).

No wonder Orwell included his 15 minutes of hate.




As for the topic on hand: identify (prove criminality), isolate (take property, possessions and ban all contact with outside world) and pacify (reeducate into citizen).

Haha I call that a Baseball home run with the ball being the NWO!

Oh and btw...
Elders of Zion? Fake book created by secret services of the Tsar.
"Novus Ordo Seclorum" on the dollar bill? Misinterpretation of Latin (never said Novus Ordo Mundi which would have indeed meant New World Order).
Freemasonic-Zionist bankers is just another re-use of the 1930s conspiracy theories or even the paranoia following the crash of catholic bank Union Generale bank in the early 1880s, victim of its own shortlived and too-high-to-be-lasting success. Or the Dreyfuss affair the late 1890s in France. All these events led to the same conspiracy theories of Zionist-masonic worldwide elites conspiracy.

Re: The best way to fight organized criminality...

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:22 am
by Juliette
Indeed, the clumsy ones who fail in Latin and translate that as New World Order should be reeducated in Siberia.

"New Order of the Ages". Anything else is a clearly fraudulent attempt at creating chaos; i.e. conspirationism.

Re: The best way to fight organized criminality...

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:43 am
by Legendary Apophis
Juliette wrote:
Lithium wrote:criminality will be higher and higher if no proper education is given to people, no proper future life to live , the issue need to be fought in its roots while trying to isolate it. the problem of those called Elite is can we handle all this?????? does this mean they have to create a society where they dotn rule anymore .... yes and they wont do it .... when things will go wrong they ll just wait till we eat each-other.


do u remember Merlin movie... what he said to ppl : Forget about Morgana just ignore her and she ll disappear ..... can we...no ,...because they holds yr lifes....admit it we are already slaves.....
but theres hope ...remember 50 years ago ppl werent even discussing this stuff but now we more sensible all around the globe.
True, 50 years ago it was either the Jews, the Russians, the Nazis or the West which was blamed for every single man **Filtered** up his/her life. I guess consolidating that into 1 single imaginary enemy does constitute progress.. (wait, no, more likely a lack of imagination and increased global communication.)

It is the jealousy of the success of others. The lunacy of the 1%-idea proves beyond a shadow of doubt that it is all bull, invented by failures. ;)

Thus the idea of a "fascist-communist-socialist-satanist-imperialist-zionist-capitalist-collectivist-marxist-pagan Novus Ordo Seclorum of the Illuminati eugenist banksters". Remix of all the scapegoats into one mega lone scapegoat. #-o

Re: The best way to fight organized criminality...

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:09 am
by Lithium
i see it more as alack of information rather than imagination.

try to figure out the future of 50 years???? wit no info no imagination.

Re: The best way to fight organized criminality...

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:25 am
by [KMA]Avenger
It's clear neither 1 of you have any idea what the NWO is. i for 1 (can't speak for others obviously) never said the term "NWO" or "new world order" came from the 1 dollar bill ;)

You will soon enough :smt117


Ps, it's also clear to me Jim you have no intention of discussing my last post, so i'm done here :-)

Re: The best way to fight organized criminality...

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:06 pm
by Legendary Apophis
[KMA]Avenger wrote:If you REALLY want to fight crime (low level crime, meaning everyday criminality, not crimes of treason and fraud as committed by politicians and bankers) then you have to start with education and the reinstatement of morality within the education system. you also have to get Govt out of the education system. you also have to allow local authorities to deal with crimes within the community. Govt trying to fight crime on a national basis DOES NOT WORK as evidenced by the shear amount of criminality.
Drugs have to be decriminalised and Govt needs to also remove itself from the economy. the red tape agencies and bureaucratic taxed based system hell-bent on destroying small business also needs to *be*shut down and allow true free enterprise to run the economy which will allow the creation of high paying jobs as in the past which will allow the young to once again find jobs that pay them what they are worth which in turns allows the young to save and buy properties with enough money to live an upper middle class life style.

What Jim fails to realise is you can't just create a system of rules and then enforce those rules with stiff punishment all in the name of tackling criminality without looking at why there are so many crimes being committed, such as burglary, thievery drug taking and so on. what are the causes of crimes and then move towards making things better so it doesn't pay to be a criminal because a straight life pays equally or more. that's how you fight crime!

If you want to tackle high profile crimes such as crooked politicians, corrupt police forces, bankers and so on...then go after the politicians and the Govt. simple as that!

Morality is rejected by political correctness, even though political correctness is created its own form of morality to twist even more the minds at school to make good future socialists supporters.
Your comment regarding fighting nationally crime leads me to believe that you probably support the silly idea of removing FBI in the USA? Leading back to a outlaws-heaven as it was pre-FBI era, problem being now we have all those crime networks whom would just follow the line of the likes of Barrow Gang, Machine Gun Kelly, Dillinger, Baby Face Nelson and whatever other big 1930s name caused havoc on the USA from State to State.
I don't see how decriminalizing drugs would solve anything. As I said already, what we have with casino and cabarets, you will have with legal drug stores. It would work as a nice cover up for the networks and they would find other background illegal stuff to do to increase their profits.
Ah, well regarding the taxing hell towards small companies, you know I agree with you there, but people in France -at least- voted in a short majority advance to be taxed more (both individually as citizens and towards companies). Well, people love to be taxed to death on all fronts and believe futile liberal laws are a good mix to go to Heaven /sarcasm.

As for the causes of said crime, I don't fall for the "blame it on society" stuff. I say it's a mix of a sub-culture ideology which glorify guns and crime (rap music for example), neighbor relatives, parents not doing their role nor school doing its. It's NOT the society. At least not in France, and I'm sure in the UK they did the exact same. Waste (spend if you prefer) tons of money restoring working-class hoods and modernize them. BUT despite all this cash spent (and not spent on struggling poor rural areas where crime rate is strangely much lower, despite no attention and even lower incomes, which validates my reasoning sub-culture & relatives are to blame) it doesn't evolve. Worse, they force market owners and other small businesses to exile to safer areas. In short, they cause the mess they live in! So let me be quite skeptical about all this "stop abandon the hoods and focus on their education/give them hobbies".

Re: The best way to fight organized criminality...

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:43 pm
by [KMA]Avenger
Since we have dropped the NWO misinformation...



As far as the US is concerned, i never said the FBI should be dissolved, obviously you need some form of task force for crimes that cross state boarders...as far as countries that have state boarders such as-the US-are concerned.

I'm talking about the UK (i don't know about other Euro nations so cannot speak about them), where i live is a small town (Where Star Wars was made :D ) but we have police forces from the surrounding areas who not only police the streets in Borehamwood but they also police the roads...this IMHO is very wrong since our local police know the local criminals better than the out of town police do. therefore it makes sense that Borehamwood handle it's own local criminal element.


As for the 2nd part of your response, i agree in part. pop culture and the glorification of guns/gun culture (as gangster wrap does) does not help the matter. but spending money on modernisation is no good if all you are doing is modernising the area without spending money to help local communities set-up local businesses and encouraging businesses to move to your area.


There's an ex-royal navel officer by the name of Brian Gerrish who was a commander in charge of a class of boat during the cold war (sorry, i don't know which class that would be and have forgotten which ship he commanded), whose job it was to hunt Soviet nuclear subs. he's spoken at length how he tried to set-up a small business to help local youngsters where he lives in Plymouth develop skills that would help with their community, skills such as building and restoring boats. he was quickly shut down. i only mention this because when you look at govt local and national, they do nothing to help local communities or to help small business owners and entrepreneurs, even worse they create laws that big business is exempt from but the small business is not exempt.

A study was done on corporations, did you know that global corporations have not created a single new job in over 20 years?

I was like :shock: i seriously could not believe what i was hearing from the radio.