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I will not attempt to explain everything that led up to this situation -those involved know, those who want to hold a specific opinion will likely keep that opinion no matter what, and those that don't know and care dont care...
The reason for the ban was to stop FURTHER corruption of the forum. I do not want to let it go on forever -wanted it to stop -so laid down a firm warning. Banned and will be erased if you continue. And it continued - with very specific intent, malice and desire to do more harm.

He and crew may as well have said "we plan on burning it all down on the way out. screw you." ... leaving me little options.

The forum has become exclusionary, bullying and has resulted in large chunks of the game community not wanting to come here. I do not want the official game forum to be for some group and its friends.

SS was an excelent admin. I have always said that. then he flipped -for whatever reason .. I am not getting in to the reasons here although will say maybe the flip could have been avoided with different decisions by myself and others -- but regardles he was no longer looking to the good of the community but a personal vendetta and wanting to see things wrecked on his way out.

If reinstating ingame account meant anything, I would consider that. But it obviously does not. I am also having posts restored from a backup -- up to about a year ago.

j.

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He and crew may as well have said "we plan on burning it all down on the way out. screw you." ... leaving me little options.

That comment is Total bull manure

seriously - look me up and attack me with a baseball bat? did you really just say that?

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Forum wrote:I will not attempt to explain everything that led up to this situation -those involved know, those who want to hold a specific opinion will likely keep that opinion no matter what, and those that don't know and care dont care...
The reason for the ban was to stop FURTHER corruption of the forum. I do not want to let it go on forever -wanted it to stop -so laid down a firm warning. Banned and will be erased if you continue. And it continued - with very specific intent, malice and desire to do more harm.

He and crew may as well have said "we plan on burning it all down on the way out. screw you." ... leaving me little options.

The forum has become exclusionary, bullying and has resulted in large chunks of the game community not wanting to come here. I do not want the official game forum to be for some group and its friends.

SS was an excelent admin. I have always said that. then he flipped -for whatever reason .. I am not getting in to the reasons here although will say maybe the flip could have been avoided with different decisions by myself and others -- but regardles he was no longer looking to the good of the community but a personal vendetta and wanting to see things wrecked on his way out.

If reinstating ingame account meant anything, I would consider that. But it obviously does not. I am also having posts restored from a backup -- up to about a year ago.

j.

Oh you wanted to top further corruption on the forums? I can tell what you could've done, fired Zeratul.

He flipped for whatever reason? Lol. I can tell you why. Zeratul.

Lemme tell you man, when you just keep sweeping obvious problems under the rug like you did then the people who put lots of their times into the forums to make them a better place are eventually going to get fed up and flip. You let Zeratul do whatever he wanted, and even he was overruled by the other 2 Admins you stepped in and backed him up. He was able to break procedure many times over and do things that should've gotten him removed from the team. They didn't get him removed, in fact there were no consequences, he did what he wanted and got away with it.

Your solution to this was to demote all Admins, and delete SS and Earendil who were trying to make this apparent to those involved. Good choice. As a result you've lost 5 Admins who put a lot of time and effort into the forums as Staff Members directly because of Zeratul. You lost Solus, you lost SuperSaiyan, you lost Earendil, and now you've lost Malx and BMMJ13 by your own decision.

So don't come here and try to put the blame on SS or Eary and say "they flipped" or were "unreasonable" or "spreading chaos." You buried your head in the sand when proof was given to you many times over that you had an Admin going rogue.

Empy wrote:

Forum wrote:I will not attempt to explain everything that led up to this situation -those involved know, those who want to hold a specific opinion will likely keep that opinion no matter what, and those that don't know and care dont care...
The reason for the ban was to stop FURTHER corruption of the forum. I do not want to let it go on forever -wanted it to stop -so laid down a firm warning. Banned and will be erased if you continue. And it continued - with very specific intent, malice and desire to do more harm.

He and crew may as well have said "we plan on burning it all down on the way out. screw you." ... leaving me little options.

The forum has become exclusionary, bullying and has resulted in large chunks of the game community not wanting to come here. I do not want the official game forum to be for some group and its friends.

SS was an excelent admin. I have always said that. then he flipped -for whatever reason .. I am not getting in to the reasons here although will say maybe the flip could have been avoided with different decisions by myself and others -- but regardles he was no longer looking to the good of the community but a personal vendetta and wanting to see things wrecked on his way out.

If reinstating ingame account meant anything, I would consider that. But it obviously does not. I am also having posts restored from a backup -- up to about a year ago.

j.

Oh you wanted to top further corruption on the forums? I can tell what you could've done, fired Zeratul.

He flipped for whatever reason? Lol. I can tell you why. Zeratul.

Lemme tell you man, when you just keep sweeping obvious problems under the rug like you did then the people who put lots of their times into the forums to make them a better place are eventually going to get fed up and flip. You let Zeratul do whatever he wanted, and even he was overruled by the other 2 Admins you stepped in and backed him up. He was able to break procedure many times over and do things that should've gotten him removed from the team. They didn't get him removed, in fact there were no consequences, he did what he wanted and got away with it.

Your solution to this was to demote all Admins, and delete SS and Earendil who were trying to make this apparent to those involved. Good choice. As a result you've lost 5 Admins who put a lot of time and effort into the forums as Staff Members directly because of Zeratul. You lost Solus, you lost SuperSaiyan, you lost Earendil, and now you've lost Malx and BMMJ13 by your own decision.

So don't come here and try to put the blame on SS or Eary and say "they flipped" or were "unreasonable" or "spreading chaos." You buried your head in the sand when proof was given to you many times over that you had an Admin going rogue.

Thanks Empy, couldn't have said that better.

BS move J, I think you're goin a bit mad dude

you just shot yourself in the foot, and have basically made the remaining administration staff to look like fools and complete arses (I realise a lot of the admin are here for the right reasons and doing a splendidly lovely job but the ones who know this is directed at them know it's directed at them )

Tyranny isn't the greatest way to try blot out someone who is speaking out.

But then again, you're the boss hey?

Forum wrote:I will not attempt to explain everything that led up to this situation -those involved know, those who want to hold a specific opinion will likely keep that opinion no matter what, and those that don't know and care dont care...
The reason for the ban was to stop FURTHER corruption of the forum. I do not want to let it go on forever -wanted it to stop -so laid down a firm warning. Banned and will be erased if you continue. And it continued - with very specific intent, malice and desire to do more harm.

He and crew may as well have said "we plan on burning it all down on the way out. screw you." ... leaving me little options.

The forum has become exclusionary, bullying and has resulted in large chunks of the game community not wanting to come here. I do not want the official game forum to be for some group and its friends.

SS was an excelent admin. I have always said that. then he flipped -for whatever reason .. I am not getting in to the reasons here although will say maybe the flip could have been avoided with different decisions by myself and others -- but regardles he was no longer looking to the good of the community but a personal vendetta and wanting to see things wrecked on his way out.

If reinstating ingame account meant anything, I would consider that. But it obviously does not. I am also having posts restored from a backup -- up to about a year ago.

j.

Do and say whatever you like J, I have always respected you for creating a game that I love. I believe your reasoning on this was completely backwards, and the punishment was far over the top. First you punish SS and Earry for doing what they believe was right and trying to change things that in their minds needed to be changed. I don't know what exactly happened between Zeratul Earry and SS, but I have been friends with all three for a long time. I am sure if you as the owner had stepped in and actually listened instead of having a knee jerk reaction things might have been settled without anyone being deleted or banned. However beyond that your treatment of Tetrismonkey is completely inexcusable, all he did was show support for his friends by talking to the other VOLUNTEERS on this forum to show you the solidarity of the team and how much support each individual has. I disagree with the idea of a walkout, that was on Tets part a bad thing to organize but everyone that handed in their colors obviously disagrees with what you have done J. I think it is time you sit back and look at this in a rational light not just in the heat of the moment like you clearly did. The forums are not exclusive people constantly complain that way, but the reality is that only a few people actively post on here and care about the community at large. You got rid of some of the best and most caring members of this community.

You taking over the forum is a welcome change don't ever think for a moment that everyone and their brother hasn't been eagerly awaiting this day. I sincerely wish you the best of luck trying to run things.

Freddie

You know Jason, the very worst part of this is, you've done far more damage to this community in what you've done this past weekend.. than SS and Earendil, and even Tetrismonkey came anywhere close to doing.

Congratulations, you're now a hypocrite.

Oh, I get it.

Mods, LETS RALLY UP! WOO! Keep quitting, keep making a point. **Filtered** the system, **Filtered** the police!

Will I get banned/deleted now?

xDaku wrote:Oh, I get it.

Mods, LETS RALLY UP! WOO! Keep quitting, keep making a point. **Filtered** the system, **Filtered** the police!

Will I get banned/deleted now?

No doubt you will

Durp durp alurp most the peeps that ment anything to these forumz and game are gones now keep up the goooood work

I don't mean to be rude, fem fatale, but you are easily one of the stupidest people I've come cross who plays this game.

Mordack wrote:I don't mean to be rude, fem fatale, but you are easily one of the stupidest people I've come cross who plays this game.

In this case, that's irrelevant.

Sniperblackout wrote:

Mordack wrote:I don't mean to be rude, fem fatale, but you are easily one of the stupidest people I've come cross who plays this game.

In this case, that's irrelevant.

I'm sorry, Sniperblackout, but it isn't. SS was a good mod, and perhaps Jason's actions were foolish, but having people like FF come to his cause serves merely to undermine it.

I would favour a well thought out petition to Jason re sacked mods to try and make some sense of it all.

Mordack wrote:

Sniperblackout wrote:

Mordack wrote:I don't mean to be rude, fem fatale, but you are easily one of the stupidest people I've come cross who plays this game.

In this case, that's irrelevant.

I'm sorry, Sniperblackout, but it isn't. SS was a good mod, and perhaps Jason's actions were foolish, but having people like FF come to his cause serves merely to undermine it.

I would favour a well thought out petition to Jason re sacked mods to try and make some sense of it all.

Obviously, based on the amount of people that have posted here, it's not just FF that's posting about it.

Also, I don't appreciate the implicaton sir. I'm in a very committed relationship and I believe you're a bit out of line.

I don't believe I trash talked you a bit and would appreciate the same courtesy.