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Sol wrote:I Basically I kept it fairly small because I didn't want to give noobs an APP induced coma (they need to learn to farm and grow just like we all did ).

I don't really see why people are whining 'oh but the people who ascend now are going to get so much more LF' - do you see those people whining 'oh but the people who ascended before have a HUGE CER and HUGE armies and if they don't mass their army away I will never catch them in my lifetime' or 'oh but the people who played ascended when there were fewer active players could farm for sooo much more DMU, how will I ever catch them'?
Yes they get a bit more LF but they are also a few YEARS behind most of the TUKs so what are a few trillion LF compared to a few years of ATs and farming and whatnot?
It's the same as when AJ first made the change so MSs weren't lost anymore when ascending. A good couple of us spent a lot of naq after each ascension because we lost our MSs, and then all of a sudden people didn't lose MSs anymore and it was a bit easier for those to catch up our main accounts. What do you expect in a never-resetting game as old as this one? Do you want the noobs to start out with 3 UUs, 100ATs and 1 mill naq and, what was it, 30 UP? Yeah, awesome way to get new blood to the game..

~N

Neimenljivi wrote:I don't really see why people are whining 'oh but the people who ascend now are going to get so much more LF' - do you see those people whining 'oh but the people who ascended before have a HUGE CER and HUGE armies and if they don't mass their army away I will never catch them in my lifetime' or 'oh but the people who played ascended when there were fewer active players could farm for sooo much more DMU, how will I ever catch them'?
Yes they get a bit more LF but they are also a few YEARS behind most of the TUKs so what are a few trillion LF compared to a few years of ATs and farming and whatnot?
It's the same as when AJ first made the change so MSs weren't lost anymore when ascending. A good couple of us spent a lot of naq after each ascension because we lost our MSs, and then all of a sudden people didn't lose MSs anymore and it was a bit easier for those to catch up our main accounts. What do you expect in a never-resetting game as old as this one? Do you want the noobs to start out with 3 UUs, 100ATs and 1 mill naq and, what was it, 30 UP? Yeah, awesome way to get new blood to the game..

~N

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Dear SoL,

My ascended RepliBlocks are having a very hard time Replicating, despite having been given a huge boost of Life Force from my one-time APP conversion.

Please consider: An account that ascends for the first time. If you are not able to have the initial boost of production and charisma levels, then it will be very very very very very very very^{^21221} hard for anyone to increase their CER to a point where they get an army size that allows them to farm. As it is for me with level 1400 production and 800 charisma, i've not even been able to build 1k fleets so far. Remove the APP > LF conversion, and you remove any ability for a new member to even begin to build their account. You either need to allow a one-time conversion for the first ascension, or provide a method around the 1/5th rule to allow new accounts to farm DMU to build up from the start.

If you don't think this is neccessary, work out the amount of time it'll take a new account starting with a fresh account and 0 APP to build up to 1B army size.

~Repli.N.

RepliNorbe wrote:Dear SoL,

My ascended RepliBlocks are having a very hard time Replicating, despite having been given a huge boost of Life Force from my one-time APP conversion.

Please consider: An account that ascends for the first time. If you are not able to have the initial boost of production and charisma levels, then it will be very very very very very very very^{^21221} hard for anyone to increase their CER to a point where they get an army size that allows them to farm. As it is for me with level 1400 production and 800 charisma, i've not even been able to build 1k fleets so far. Remove the APP > LF conversion, and you remove any ability for a new member to even begin to build their account. You either need to allow a one-time conversion for the first ascension, or provide a method around the 1/5th rule to allow new accounts to farm DMU to build up from the start.

If you don't think this is neccessary, work out the amount of time it'll take a new account starting with a fresh account and 0 APP to build up to 1B army size.

~Repli.N.

Unless the 'under xx million planets' is floored; i.e. you would get a 'minimum' conversion rate when at the minimum.
If that makes any sense?

I've been farming my ass off this last 3 to 4 weeks and i just started this account in aug, i just took it off Vac 4 weeks ago and started playing again. i have passed 1 bill sir and am moving rather well...

so 4 weeks of playing like crazy got me to the good farms... from nothing...

KOS wrote:I've been farming my ass off this last 3 to 4 weeks and i just started this account in aug, i just took it off Vac 4 weeks ago and started playing again. i have passed 1 bill sir and am moving rather well...

Case and point! (And coincidentally, good going, sir.)

Juliette wrote:

RepliNorbe wrote:Dear SoL,

My ascended RepliBlocks are having a very hard time Replicating, despite having been given a huge boost of Life Force from my one-time APP conversion.

Please consider: An account that ascends for the first time. If you are not able to have the initial boost of production and charisma levels, then it will be very very very very very very very^{^21221} hard for anyone to increase their CER to a point where they get an army size that allows them to farm. As it is for me with level 1400 production and 800 charisma, i've not even been able to build 1k fleets so far. Remove the APP > LF conversion, and you remove any ability for a new member to even begin to build their account. You either need to allow a one-time conversion for the first ascension, or provide a method around the 1/5th rule to allow new accounts to farm DMU to build up from the start.

If you don't think this is neccessary, work out the amount of time it'll take a new account starting with a fresh account and 0 APP to build up to 1B army size.

~Repli.N.

Unless the 'under xx million planets' is floored; i.e. you would get a 'minimum' conversion rate when at the minimum.
If that makes any sense?

- The larger your planet count the more LF you will convert automatically per turn change. Vice versa the smaller your planet count is (trying not to give too much power to noobs).
- The change plateaus at 400 bill per turn and maximizes at 1 trill.

See the calc on the first page.

(julie and others)+1 to that.

Perhaps my ascended farming targets are too low, but I am having no problem at all in turning my turns into income.
Ascended is too important to risk a high income strategy.

OOOOOOH!
Thanks SOL

I might look at more fleets rather than farming the bottom of the list.

Sol wrote:

Juliette wrote:

RepliNorbe wrote:Dear SoL,

My ascended RepliBlocks are having a very hard time Replicating, despite having been given a huge boost of Life Force from my one-time APP conversion.

Please consider: An account that ascends for the first time. If you are not able to have the initial boost of production and charisma levels, then it will be very very very very very very very^{^21221} hard for anyone to increase their CER to a point where they get an army size that allows them to farm. As it is for me with level 1400 production and 800 charisma, i've not even been able to build 1k fleets so far. Remove the APP > LF conversion, and you remove any ability for a new member to even begin to build their account. You either need to allow a one-time conversion for the first ascension, or provide a method around the 1/5th rule to allow new accounts to farm DMU to build up from the start.

If you don't think this is neccessary, work out the amount of time it'll take a new account starting with a fresh account and 0 APP to build up to 1B army size.

~Repli.N.

Unless the 'under xx million planets' is floored; i.e. you would get a 'minimum' conversion rate when at the minimum.
If that makes any sense?

- The larger your planet count the more LF you will convert automatically per turn change. Vice versa the smaller your planet count is (trying not to give too much power to noobs).
- The change plateaus at 400 bill per turn and maximizes at 1 trill.

See the calc on the first page.

Exactly.. so that does give the newbies and such a good in-flow of LFC. Good.

Fleets and charisma are your biggest starting out, get big fast so you can farm!

20% of the good farming targets lets you farm well without having the big guns being able to hit you.

I am happy with 150 000 000 000 000 hits. Plenty of them with only 4 000 000 000 planets.

Once I have two powerfully ascending main accounts? Then, I might be tempted by the big game,

just looked at your account and i call BS! lol, no way i cant spy you, and your in the rank you are with no fleets... haha

KOS wrote:just looked at your account and i call BS! lol, no way i cant spy you, and your in the rank you are with no fleets... haha

Rank: 4,023

You can't spy me because i'm still on PPT. Though I did just manage to get my 1k fleets last turn. My account will actually be okay and can get built easily because I had 70T LF from my ascension. It's after this update who don't have access to that who will struggle.

Sol wrote:- The larger your planet count the more LF you will convert automatically per turn change. Vice versa the smaller your planet count is (trying not to give too much power to noobs).
- The change plateaus at 400 bill per turn and maximizes at 1 trill.

See the calc on the first page.

So a smaller player gets even LESS LF from APP? That really doesn't help at all... we need to build charisma and income, can't possibly do that without the LF.

~Repli.N.

sorry spied wrong person, but on topic my last ascension only gave me 400bil LF which really sucks, but i was able to farm enough naq to accomplish what i needed. thats why im just busting up fleets, after reading about the last update. i hope i get better APP this next one...