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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:43 pm
by thunder
Radium wrote:
I do not like the original concept because of the emergencies that can happen in real life that screw things up.



but all you would have to do is go back on vac mode then

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:13 pm
by agapooka
I don't see how a larger MINIMUM screws up real life issues. On the contrary, it agrees with real life issues as vacations are longer than 2 days. Besides, if you are gone for 2 days, use PPT.

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:39 am
by Radium
The original concept was to not allow PPT right after vacation mode for 3 to 5 days. PPT is already restricted. That is why I am saying I do not like the original concept :)

I am in agreement that we have reached the point that something needs to be done. My suggestion of 2 vacations per month is more restrictive then other ideas that are out there.

I believe that if a person was trying to spend all their time being protected by using vacation and PPT, like some are doing, that this would cut down substantially the growth of their account.

Honestly I would even start to side with those who would say an account needs to be played a minimum amount. I think the way that is measured would have to include PPT's and vacation time. It would have to be measured over more then a single month, after all life does happen.

But something does need to be done. Things are clearly being exploited now. While this is a war game the people using this exploit are clearly just griefers wanting to spoil the game for others since they obviously are not going anywhere in the game.

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:48 pm
by thunder
Radium wrote:The original concept was to not allow PPT right after vacation mode for 3 to 5 days.

. My suggestion of 2 vacations per month is more restrictive then other ideas that are out there

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first off the original consept was for any number of days, i dont care if its one day long just as long as there is a break


and the 2 vac per month is horible, you should be able to go on vac mode anytime, like you said earlier sometimes real life issues arise and if you already used up 2 then your in trouble.

whats the main reason you are against people from not being able to go on ppt immediatly after a vac mode? remebering that if they come off vac mode and then need to go back on to it they still can just like a ppt except they dont make anything?

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:55 pm
by [SGC_ReplicĂ…tors]
Vacate mode is already a plus and negative the way it is...i dunno how u are going to chnage it really

the only reason i see why this idea was brought up is to get certain ppl using this tactic...so they cant hide anywhere....YES I NO U GUYS THINK THIS......personalyl deas like this doesnt benefit the game only U so u can get those ppl...also not EVERYone does this..i cant stand the thought of my account going into Vacate mode... but thats my POV

i no it sucks but suggesting a idea that comes from what i posted isnt a idea...thast my 2 cents.

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:59 pm
by thunder
sgc, i dont have anyone i know that im wanting to attack doing this, however this game was nat designed to be in such a way so that anyone can remain untochable the entire time they play, therefor this simply would make it so that everyone is out in the open atleast a little bit

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:13 pm
by [SGC_ReplicĂ…tors]
but only a handful of ppl do this compared to the entire community

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:56 pm
by thunder
but how is the rest of the comunity negitivly effected with my idea????

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:58 pm
by Kerrus Magrus
so? the way I see it, we need something to keep track of ppt/vac access. and have two types of vac mode. standard, which would be subject to limiters, and ermergency, wich would not be subject toe the start time limiters. however, emergency vacmode would send an alert to forum, and if theyended up using it right after a ppt/during more than once in a month, it would send a priority alert, and lock down emerg vac use.

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:01 pm
by thunder
wouldn't that be alot of extra work for forum though, monitering everyone who uses the vac mode, expecially when my idea would reach the same ends with alot less work from forum

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:31 pm
by 12agnar0k
Wolf359 wrote: how about making it so that once you finish PPT you cannot go into vacation mode for at least 24 hours. Similarly once you finish vacation mode, you cannot PPT for 24 hours (in fact - that is thunder's initial suggestion - lol) - but I still think that the PPTs should be allowed back to back.


This is an AWESOME idea,

Although you may need to go on vacation right afetr a ppt, say your ppt finishes in the morning before you go to work/school , when you get back home your parents/girlfreing/boyfreind surprises you with a vacation that you have to leave tongiht to go to, your accoutn is screwed, but you cant not go on the vacation so you need the vac mode there,

however one youve finished a vacation there is no need to go straight onto ppt , if you liek ppts cos you enjoy safe incoem then you can wait a coupel of days and then go on one, it will lose you soem naq but unless you are one of the guys that constantly vac/ppt/vac/ppt its not gonna effect you, - and if your constantly vac/ppt'ing you aint playing...

i disagree that the time of vac should be more than 2 days, it is 2 days because no one has a 6 hr vacation because then most peopel have 2 vacations a day :) , a vacation is just that a long period of tiem where you are away , a weekend break is susch instance to use a 2 day vac, peopel who are using this to never be attacked are silly,

THANKS thunder for the thread, forumn , initiate this now!!!

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 3:20 pm
by thunder
you know it 12ag

also the vacation after ppt should still be alowed because i know that sometimes things get screwy and you might have to leave or somthing but there is no reason why a ppt has to be done emmidatly after a vac mode.

Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 5:41 am
by thunder
no im not letting this idea die

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:26 pm
by loki_niflheim
VAC/PPT/PPT/VAC/PPT/PPT? Did that in the last leg of Quantum, I couldn't handle Quantum craziness and lost so much sleep I had to take a breather. I agree that it's not playing, and I don't mind if you can't do that anymore. In short, I'm FOR this idea.

I'm against the idea of limiting how many vacations you can take a month. Granted I never had to go on vacation mode (mainly coz I have officers), but sometimes 'vacation mode' is used for anything from wanting a couple of free days where you have to take a cousin who came from overseas to a sightseeing, or taking them sightseeing because someone else who's supposed to do it suddenly can't, or taking a few days off because you're swamped with work, overtime and all-nighters, to a full-blown round-the-world holidays. A couple of the scenarios above actually happens to my officers (except for the round-the-world hols). Some of these things can't be planned, and even if they can, you can't help but have more than 2-4 periods in a month where you had to be away. I think having your universe frozen for at least couple of days is punishment enough for vacation mode.

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:35 pm
by The Oncoming Storm
I am against this idea. Remember that any player that uses this tactic already loses his income and Unit production three days per week. And it's only benefit is to force players who might have already been massed back out into the open so their attempts at rebuilding are further destroyed.

It isn't against the rules, and isn't a loophole, and I can't see why so much effort is being put into this thread. It might not be in the spirit of the game, but it isn't cheating. If a player wants to addopt a tactic of play that isn't against the rules then so be it. You can't change the rules in the middle of the game.