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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:59 pm
by DarkAnubis
One problem, the replicators souldnt be allowed to ascend. Why, because its not a life form. Thus cant ascend. How is metal organic??? It doesnt have a soul, its runs off a program its brain is a hard drive. Its impossible for a machine to ascend.

Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:03 pm
by Gatedialer
~Ailm~ wrote:what do you like better? :D

i like Asuran better because, we arnt made out of Titanium :Dso the ti bit is a bit wierd and master i dont like lol :D

-3rd


You replicaters are made out of what you eat. You eat Titanium you become titanium. You eat greesy american mcdonalds hamburgers and you become fat and greesy. ;)

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:36 am
by -Ailm-
DarkAnubis wrote:One problem, the replicators souldnt be allowed to ascend. Why, because its not a life form. Thus cant ascend. How is metal organic??? It doesnt have a soul, its runs off a program its brain is a hard drive. Its impossible for a machine to ascend.


in this game they can ascend we are not here to discuss should they be allowed to ascend because they can, and in stargate, there is no 'soul' its the lifeorce which is energy which at the end of the day will be present in replicators, how do you defien life, in sci-fi ? you cant really anything that is sentient, replicators have a conciousness, and moves with self cause is usually callses as alive, and how do you define organic?, metal is a natural accurance...The ascended dont even have a phisical form they are not organic

ANYWAY NOT THE POINT

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A more advanced for of rpelicaotr is an Asuran therfore we should eb called that, not simply Titanium replicators :P, a Trinium replicator would be more advanced :P

-Ailm

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:07 am
by GAT-X207
cant beleive i didnt catch it before, asuran is the name of a anime chracter (well atleast in japanese) . either way both name are good

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:40 am
by -Ailm-
Asuran just sounds more deffinate, and sophisticated :D

24-11 to Asuran :D

-Ailm

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:09 pm
by DarkAnubis
:P but they all came from living bodys O.o metal isnt living so theres my proof bam they cant ascend, end of disscussion. :D

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:58 pm
by gooseman the first
DarkAnubis wrote::P but they all came from living bodys O.o metal isnt living so theres my proof bam they cant ascend, end of disscussion. :D

dude, its a game, they can ascend, get over it

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:44 pm
by [AG]Ra
i may use spoilers



so there're 2 things here: the series we all love and the game based on this series.
if you remember to the end of season8 (i refer to The Reckoning part2) where replicarter kidnap the deascended daniel jackson.

they have a convo there about knowledge and ascension. in this conversation rc shows off her/its true power etc.
then comes the most important sentence when d explains to rc that not matter how huge will be her knowledge and the number of the replicator
army, they'll still be machines with a program code...and even if they rule the whole galaxy or even the whole universe they still won't be able to do ONE thing...yes, it's a "complete understanding of the universe" when you can leave your shell behind and live as pure energy..

convo after rc was quit reading d's mind...(the reckoning part2, from 23:36 sec in the dvd)

d: "can't handle it can you?"
rc: "i... can....i just need time to process...share it with the others"

d: "but the universe is infinite..not just numbers and information but understanding on a level you'll never reach"
rc: "why do you think that?"
d: "because you're a machine"
rc: "so are you... just of weaker construction"
d: "and that's where you're wrong"
rc: "we'll see"


convo ends, scene back to CMC where replicators are attacking...

my opinion about this convo...in the series (real life) i prefer daniel's thoughts that humans and living beings are have something that a machene don't. but it could be a trick too...d tries to baffle rc about ascension...to protect the ancients or earth whatever he wants to.

in the game i prefer the other version, so replicators can ascend... for eg. they simulate the human organs...all of them..

and because this thread is about the poll i say wait a few more month before decide...you can't know right now wether you want their name or not...(for eg. too good personality compared to the replies.
Ra spoke

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:15 pm
by -Ailm-
Ra wrote:i may use spoilers



so there're 2 things here: the series we all love and the game based on this series.
if you remember to the end of season8 (i refer to The Reckoning part2) where replicarter kidnap the deascended daniel jackson.

they have a convo there about knowledge and ascension. in this conversation rc shows off her/its true power etc.
then comes the most important sentence when d explains to rc that not matter how huge will be her knowledge and the number of the replicator
army, they'll still be machines with a program code...and even if they rule the whole galaxy or even the whole universe they still won't be able to do ONE thing...yes, it's a "complete understanding of the universe" when you can leave your shell behind and live as pure energy..

convo after rc was quit reading d's mind...(the reckoning part2, from 23:36 sec in the dvd)

d: "can't handle it can you?"
rc: "i... can....i just need time to process...share it with the others"

d: "but the universe is infinite..not just numbers and information but understanding on a level you'll never reach"
rc: "why do you think that?"
d: "because you're a machine"
rc: "so are you... just of weaker construction"
d: "and that's where you're wrong"
rc: "we'll see"


convo ends, scene back to CMC where replicators are attacking...

my opinion about this convo...in the series (real life) i prefer daniel's thoughts that humans and living beings are have something that a machene don't. but it could be a trick too...d tries to baffle rc about ascension...to protect the ancients or earth whatever he wants to.

in the game i prefer the other version, so replicators can ascend... for eg. they simulate the human organs...all of them..

and because this thread is about the poll i say wait a few more month before decide...you can't know right now wether you want their name or not...(for eg. too good personality compared to the replies.
Ra spoke


1. as i said before, what ascendeds is energy, regardless of physical body
2. as replicarter said, humans are machines, just because they are built differently doesnt mean to say that, it is the only thing that can possibly live, and the human brain needs time to 'process' information just like a replicater.
3. this really ISNT THE POINT, THE THREAD IS ABOUT CHANGING THE REPLICATORS ASCENDED NAME
4. AS THE PERSON ABOVE YOU SAID, ITS THE GAME THE REPLICATORS CAN ASCEND GET OVER IT :D NOTHING SAID WILL CHANGE THE FACT THAT THEY CAN ASCEND :D

/rant over

:D


LET ME REMIND YOU ONCE AGAIN THIS POLE IS TO CHANGE THE ASCENDED REPLICATORS NAME NOT, I REPEAT NOT, TO DEBATE WETHER OR NOT REPLICATORS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO ASCEND.

-Ailm

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:18 am
by Slaver
The Dalek Empire wrote:***WARNING***

***SPOILER***

***WARNING***

<insert flashing lights, warning sirens and alarms>

Right, now tha the formalities are out of the way.

They Asuran are not Ascended Replicators though are they? Merely entities composed of Nanite-like blocks (much like Human Forms). Some of them have aspirations for Ascension though.

I've grown quite fond of the name NanoTiMaster as time has gone by. There's a certain finality to it. Still, I can certainly see where you are coming from...

when did you see in SG-1 or Atlantis that acient are asgard?

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:08 am
by darkness5723
ailm, man.. chill out. all caps is kind of offensive to some people. but yea, im not an ascended replicator, but asuran definitely is cooler than nanotimaster.

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:43 am
by -Ailm-
insanity5723 wrote:ailm, man.. chill out. all caps is kind of offensive to some people. but yea, im not an ascended replicator, but asuran definitely is cooler than nanotimaster.


i only did it to highlight this poll was not about that and to make it clear for new people coming into the topic and not to get further off-topic :)

-Ailm

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 4:43 am
by Alpha13snake
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:14 am
by hidden
[SGC_ReplicĂ…tors] wrote:same with System Lords.......they PRETEND to be gods


you will suffer for that

they do not pretend to be gods they dont even need to ascend because as gods they are already more powerful


by the way im voting asuran obviously they would be the replicators closest to ascention

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 9:54 am
by Tok`ra
Agapooka wrote:
kroony wrote:How many Ascended Replicators are there anyway? we dont seem to be that common


Well... there's me. But you are right, there aren't many. I can count the ones that I know on one hand, but there are more, of course. They are like jewels: rare and prescious. And jewels are worth money, and money is power, hence, we are also powerful :P.



Pay me enough UU/Naq and Ill switch to LegoTmaster :p