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Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 10:25 pm
by Flavar
well my mothership is underway sicne some time and i hope i will fully understand the upgrades soon.
this coudl get us a new mothership boom and set the gaem even more in the peace direction. But well soemthign has to be doen against sripts.

:roll:

Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 10:29 pm
by pianomutt20000
REK wrote:netscape suck.... :? :P



Netscape RULES ......

Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 10:29 pm
by REK
peace :cry:

oh well you cant win them all.. i still dont like that you can go on ppt while your MS is out of protection at least it should be able to get hit an destroyed :twisted:

Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 10:30 pm
by pianomutt20000
i believe it will be damaged after attacking a planet anyhow. no worries there.

Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 10:34 pm
by Thufir_Hawat
pianomutt20000 wrote:Learn about computers before you call internet browsers cheating tools. Common.


I understood what they did to an extent, just asked if they were approved, did not say you were cheating.

It appears it allows you to hit a target multible times quickly, but you still have to set up all the tabs manually.

As opposed to a script which would automatically do it for you, automatically find targets, go thru a list of targets or automatically bank your Naq.

I belive I heard you can use them to buy Mercs also to get past the 999 limit? Or was that another addon for Firefox... Datatamper?

There are finelines everywhere I assume. Tabs as I understood it was shut off then reopened by Forum so must not be cheating.

Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 10:41 pm
by Kroony
Opera Browser FTW!!!

Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 10:41 pm
by Cobolt
Well, a script could be detected by a script...

The sad part is that this update mostly benefits those that already are 6x ascended and have A HUGE AMOUNT of miners...

I mean, if we can´t raid and farm efficient, only those that already got 10mi++ of miners will be seen in the top ranking.

It really doesn´t matter if any of those guys get massed, they have the turn income to rebuild..

Just to put what I´m talking about into perspective.. I spy a lot and well 50+ milion miners do exist... I have nothing bad to say about that but clearly a good gameplay by someone, but this update has just made it clear who the top dogs are going to be in this game - period...

And therefore in my opionion, it looks like this update may itself be a much larger problem than the problem it´s trying to solve.

As, script should be detected by statistics.. there are ways to make shure that the server detects 99% of those few that are using scripts and I´m shure most of the rest 1% will show up eventually.. aka not a good reason to make shure that me and the bulk of the other gamers has no chance of reaching the top unless the top dogs get bored and quit the game.... :(

Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 10:48 pm
by doc holliday
the newer beta version of internet explorer has tabs

Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 10:50 pm
by pianomutt20000
Gukumatz wrote:
pianomutt20000 wrote:Learn about computers before you call internet browsers cheating tools. Common.


I understood what they did to an extent, just asked if they were approved, did not say you were cheating.

It appears it allows you to hit a target multible times quickly, but you still have to set up all the tabs manually.

As opposed to a script which would automatically do it for you, automatically find targets, go thru a list of targets or automatically bank your Naq.

I belive I heard you can use them to buy Mercs also to get past the 999 limit? Or was that another addon for Firefox... Datatamper?

There are finelines everywhere I assume. Tabs as I understood it was shut off then reopened by Forum so must not be cheating.




for both massing. buying...i just click really fast. Best way. no tabs are required except for repairs. :)

Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 11:37 pm
by Freestyle304
If non-detectable scripts is one of the biggest reasons for the 15 second delay - how hard would it be to add a 15 second delay to the undetectable script. Honestly, while I will continue to play by hand just as we are all supposed to do, a script sounds more inviting now than it did before.

I'm a raider - it will add hours to my gameplay time to do the same thing now. I don't have hours more to give to this game. Hours is not an exaggeration. I can spend 15k turns in a sitting raiding - more i suppose, but 15k is not hard at all. under the new system (15 turn attack - 15 second delay) - that's 4 hours and ten minutes just of delay. Kind of excessive.

I've played other games that allow scripts. Got boring with no one ever around and people's computers playing each other! Still, to go out to a movie, maybe see X-Men 3 since I haven't gotten around to it, then get a bite to eat - all while a script raids away every 15 seconds - it's more appealing than it was.

If people are running scripts admin can't detect - let them. I don't care. I can compete with that now. I can't compete if it will take me 4 hours more per raiding run!

Sigh
Freestyle304 and his loose change (that had to be more than 2 cents)

Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 11:39 pm
by lkm-hucklebuck
the update and 15sec wait made the damn thing worse now. riading is now a time consuming effort- and not worth it. it will most likely infact increase script usage since those programs can wait for 15secs to raid again while the user does something else.

Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 11:49 pm
by Wolf359
Gukumatz wrote:I guess Tabs are not considered cheating since Forum has switched them back on IIRC.


Tabs are just other open windows within a single browser window - you open and shut them by clicking on them - they are not cheating - it is just the same as having multiple browser windows open.

as stated by someone else - IE7 beta has tabs (I'm using it).

Just a thought on the upgrades - do we not need pilots now to fly the gliders??

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 12:03 am
by Reeb
Wolf359 wrote:Just a thought on the upgrades - do we not need pilots now to fly the gliders??


I think it uses attack troops to man them, but I'm not positive. I know they take damage in attacks and you have to repair them just like weapons, but if your mothership is off searching you get no benefit from the mothership in attacks. In a way this is really good for raiders, you can send your mothership out to look around while you raid so you don't have to repair it non-stop.

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 12:25 am
by Morganskywalker
Reeb wrote:
Wolf359 wrote:Just a thought on the upgrades - do we not need pilots now to fly the gliders??


I think it uses attack troops to man them, but I'm not positive. I know they take damage in attacks and you have to repair them just like weapons, but if your mothership is off searching you get no benefit from the mothership in attacks. In a way this is really good for raiders, you can send your mothership out to look around while you raid so you don't have to repair it non-stop.


nope. they dont need men. just like the most expensive weapons in chaos :)

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 12:34 am
by Reeb
I could have swore the attack logs on testing said XXXX Drones are using Sattelite Drone Array and XXXXXX Drones used (normal weapons) even though it only added to mothership strength. I'm on PPT, somebody go farm somebody and see if it does or not. :P