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i like Bahamut's proposal.
i really think it would even out the game as each race would be stronger in only one area.
at the moment, the reps and even goa'uld are disadvantaged!

bahamuts post comparing current, and predicted situation seems to sum it up well.

good job
all your suggestions seem to be realistic, honest improvements!

well its good to see actual good ideas instead of the normal bad ones like add another race like the Tollan...

Chris M wrote:i like Bahamut's proposal.....good job
all your suggestions seem to be realistic, honest improvements!

tnx Chris finally someone that get to the point

and dougy u changed opinion a little bit

Chris M wrote:i like Bahamut's proposal.
i really think it would even out the game as each race would be stronger in only one area.
at the moment, the reps and even goa'uld are disadvantaged!

bahamuts post comparing current, and predicted situation seems to sum it up well.

good job
all your suggestions seem to be realistic, honest improvements!

okay i have a question are u saying bahamut that every race expect the one with the bonuse would be as easly able to get up that particulare area as all the others?

As for all this disadvantaged stuff the reps and the goa'uld do not lose any think to again their bonuse asgaurd and tauri do we can not get our attack or defence up as easy as any other race whereas the goa'uld get a bonuse that gives them extra income stop no other statues are any worse of so why are they disadvantaged? As for the reps i allways thought how come they don't add their extra covert to their covert rank? Then i read this topic, and it hit me the reason for this as i see it is because they do not have any other stat decreased to compenstate for the stat being added to covert action.

Valha'lla wrote: okay i have a question are u saying bahamut that every race expect the one with the bonuse would be as easly able to get up that particulare area as all the others?

i presented the table with upgrades that would be able to do that way.

now repli got 25% cheaper covert but that is not their advantage because every1 with spy level 18 and 1000 spies have same covert action, so that way u could see a lot of ppl playing as asgards and only upgrading covert and deffence so basiclly it would give advantage to the replicators as asgards have in deffence so that way replis would need to have let's say 750 spies with covert level 18 and all others should have 1000 spies with covert level 18 so basiclly it would give to replicators same advantage in covert as asgard or tauri have in deff and attack ( cheaper attack or deff weapons, and cheaper unit training attack or deff ).

same would be with upgrade for goaulds, that way all races would have advantage in their specific way, because for now, full benefit from race is given only to tauri and asgard.

if this was implimented then the tauri and asgard would demand that the goa'uld and repli's suffer in a area like the tauri for defense. i still prefer the way things are now except for replis who should get a better long term bonus.

the reps and goa'uld do suffer, our attack is rated at just 2560 per weapon.
if i remember correctly, isn't an asgard attack weapon got 2000 rating? if so, that is poor as the bonused weapon has something like a 2700 rating. so i agree, that factor is unfair BUT, it evens out because tauri are the only real ones that can attack asgards and asgards are the only ones who can really defend it. so again, the reps and goa'uld are disadvantaged.

when i was an asgard, i argued this point on another alliance forum until a friend pointed this out.

Chris M wrote:the reps and goa'uld do suffer, our attack is rated at just 2560 per weapon.
if i remember correctly, isn't an asgard attack weapon got 2000 rating? if so, that is poor as the bonused weapon has something like a 2700 rating. so i agree, that factor is unfair BUT, it evens out because tauri are the only real ones that can attack asgards and asgards are the only ones who can really defend it. so again, the reps and goa'uld are disadvantaged.

when i was an asgard, i argued this point on another alliance forum until a friend pointed this out.

K but i still say Goa'uld are not disadvantaged. Goa'uld have the ability to just spend that extra 25% more on defence than i do if we had the same number of untrained units and u and i would have an equal defence cause u get 25% extra weapons and u can then spend the same on attack as me and have a higher attack so why are Goa'uld disadvantaged? I'm not saying the game is unfair on the race i have chosen to be but i can't see the disadvantage to the Goa'uld.

not true coz the tauri get weapons for a cheaper price and get 25% increase in strike. so u get more than 25% in attack than other races.

Lord Dougy wrote:not true coz the tauri get weapons for a cheaper price and get 25% increase in strike. so u get more than 25% in attack than other races.

True i forgot about that but still it gives u the option as a goa'uld to have more balanced statues as u can spend that extra income in one area or both so u still could have a higher attack and slightly less defence and most asgaurd could not get through ur defence so we could not rob u and u could not rob us. As far as i can tell that would be true sorry for the misatake in the last post the discount completly sliped my mind.

if a tauri and goa'uld had the exact same troop count and both bought only strike units. the tauri would win in strike power. i prefer goa'uld for ranks as they are the most balanced. But the asgard are the easiest as all they need to do is get their UP and covert and defense up.

Lord Dougy wrote:..............But the asgard are the easiest as all they need to do is get their UP and covert and defense up.

i agree

and maybe froum could enlighten us

lol froum *forum

Bahamut wrote:

Lord Dougy wrote:..............But the asgard are the easiest as all they need to do is get their UP and covert and defense up.

i agree

and maybe froum could enlighten us

lol froum *forum

I like the word all in that statment.

PS: i would like to know what u two propose happens about this so called easy asgaurd approach as i have to admit bahamut seems to have some good ideas

..quite simple and well thought out, i think that some of your ideas are perhaps a *little* favouring of being a specific race but i still see the validity of what you are saying. However, the new ascension server will have so many new and interesting aspects of gameplay thet soon all this talk of further improving main server will fade to a dull whisper watch this space

-Goo

well ghosty maybe u are right but there will still be players on main server that could benefit from new upgrades and it would be nice to see more improvments on all 3 servers.

and as for J, J u r the man!!!