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Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:35 am
by dredd2525
Yes none of the current attacks have any effect on life force. There will likely be a new attack type added.

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:58 am
by Su
I already know who I will decend.

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:06 am
by -Ailm-
does Su stad for soemthing?, always wondered...

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to be honest i dont thik these 'major' players are going to waste their time decending smaller players for the pure fun of it ... :S

also eventually there will be no one left right...so they will fight amongst themselves decned each other , then they wont have time to fight the smaller players they will be to worried about each other decinding them :D

everything has a way of blancing itself out :)

-Ailm

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:48 am
by daivahataka
dredd2525 wrote:Yes none of the current attacks have any effect on life force. There will likely be a new attack type added.

It'll probably also require the removal of all physical defences before the "god" themselves can be assaulted.

As for people attacking others I see no issue with making the odd attacks, massing someone (annoying as it is when you're the victim of such) who either has in some way provoked it or is at least capable of putting up a reasonable defence, but decending should be reserved as a last resort for someone who really deserves it.

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:42 am
by dredd2525
daivahataka wrote:It'll probably also require the removal of all physical defences before the "god" themselves can be assaulted.


yes forum did state that physical defenses had to be removed first. however he didn't mention whether it is just defense or also includes spy and assasin planets, or possibly even strike too.

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:40 pm
by Rukia
i would believe defense and [spy and/or assassin] would be required too ^_^

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:06 pm
by Su
Nah, then it would be impossiable to decend someone, Just defense most likely, that is what would make the most sense, without a defense who or what is going to stop the god attack from reaching the opposing god?

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:20 pm
by 12agnar0k
Su wrote:Nah, then it would be impossiable to decend someone, Just defense most likely, that is what would make the most sense, without a defense who or what is going to stop the god attack from reaching the opposing god?


spys hide the god you think your hitting him but your just running inot a tree...

assain's whilst you are lookign for the god slit your throat ...

e.t.c :)

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:06 am
by Jora Sjacka
Su wrote:If you are speaking of Jora, I massed him only becasue he was a decent raid target. I told him that when he asked me, I told all his little friends threating me the same thing. I'm starting to get mad, and all of those who decide to keep making up false statements to try to spread more slander will get massed. I'm sick and tired of all of the lies. Ascended is a place where people will get massed if their defense is small and has alot of planets. My suggestion, if you start reaching alot of planets, get a defense higher then 8billion. I hit GenLucky as well, only becasue he was a good raid. He had a huge defense, which he probally has again. I'm happy to say, I respect him for not going around talking alot of trash, as it seems he only took the attack on him as a learning experiance and up'd his stats that casued him great weakness. Jora, you might want to have a talk with your friends.


I have not said anything else, and whatever my friends say, they say, not I. I have a mind of my own you know.

Su wrote:I have no intentions on decending Jora. The reason why my name was vrought up is right out silly. I have people trying to threaten me and saying Jora and I were friends and all this other stuff. Here's to set something stright. Ask all the people I have peace with, I have never attacked them. All my friends I have also never attacked, unless at war. Jora and I never talk, the only time he has ever messaged me on MSN was to get the results of his vote to get into Omega. Then the next time was asking why I attacked him in ascended. Simple, planets. Now all these other people are declaring war and me and threating to attack me. Yet noone does it, however they talk all big and bad.


Fact is, I was offering you naq after you ascended the time after that. I have it in my logs, and I could screenshot it for you. Yes, I considered you my friend, but you sure didn't consider likewise. I've understood that. And again, mind of their own. I can't hold my friends in ties, but they're sure to be pretty mad, Su. That's just how it is.

Personally, I would like to reach a diplomatic solution on the matter, but I've found out that would not be reached, seeing as you would never repay anything...Neither would I have done if I were raiding around of course. But still my friends are mad. That is now your problem. Remember that.

But see Su, even though you raided me and obliterated my defence, I have restrained from setting you at war. That is due to what my stance to you were before the raiding, not because you might think I'm afraid of omega or something like that. Remember that aswell Su.

-Jora-

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:57 am
by pijanc
I will probably be amongst first descended for posting this, but i'll do it anyway :P :
Well, I am one of the smaller players, but i think this rule is a bad idea, i mean then nobody would dare to descend nobody(there'll be exceptions ofcourse) ingeneraly. So then this feature will be almost meaningless. Listen Forum said that the person's phisical realm defense(and probably covert too) will hav to be 0 before decending step, so it'll be very expensive for someone to descend somebody, so i think nobody will do that just for fun, also u can always get a higher def., covert. This feature will be designed for the purose of making ascended server more active, with this risk players will hav to be active, besides inactive players are lower ranked so if u souldn't descend them there really is no point (cause there will probably be a time limit before new player can be descended) so this rule would only support the inactive players.

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:11 am
by The Dalek Empire
Brainwave. Make the final Descending "push" like Raiding. As in, you can only Descend someone who is within XY of your rank (or something similar). Reasons being honour, arrogance, and so on, depending on race.

Or, on the other hand, it could not be like that.

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:53 am
by dredd2525
The Dalek Empire wrote:Brainwave. Make the final Descending "push" like Raiding. As in, you can only Descend someone who is within XY of your rank (or something similar). Reasons being honour, arrogance, and so on, depending on race.

Or, on the other hand, it could not be like that.


This would be hard to implement since in order to descend someone you first need to remove their physical defenses which would put their rank way back and then make it impossible to descend. all that would do is force those doing the descension to sell everything to match the rank and finish the descension.

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:31 pm
by The Dalek Empire
Or you have to have someone help you with Descending others. A sort of "it takes more than one" effect.

Think about it - in the show a single Ascended being cannot (normally) defeat another (Anubis vs Oma) - it takes "the others" to step in and overpower the individual.

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:36 pm
by dredd2525
The Dalek Empire wrote:Or you have to have someone help you with Descending others. A sort of "it takes more than one" effect.

Think about it - in the show a single Ascended being cannot (normally) defeat another (Anubis vs Oma) - it takes "the others" to step in and overpower the individual.


I believe generally this will in fact be the case. you would need a really heafty god strike and lots of life force yourself to descend someone by yourself. Particularly since turns are realatively rare.

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:37 pm
by Aetom
Well....I think that if there's going to be a big problem with players decending people for fun or their own amusement, Forum would just do-away with the whole thing.