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baltar is not leading the cylons to earth to destroy the other humans. He's helping the cylons only to save his butt...

yea, hes a weasel... and there are no other baltar copies, cos yknow the council of the cylons, where they vote on things, theres two of all the other cylons (apart from the guy messin with starbuck) and no baltar... if he was a cylon youd imagine hed be on the council.

The Hamburglar wrote:yea, hes a weasel... and there are no other baltar copies, cos yknow the council of the cylons, where they vote on things, theres two of all the other cylons (apart from the guy messin with starbuck) and no baltar... if he was a cylon youd imagine hed be on the council.

unless they don't want him to know that he's a cylon.

why would they need baltar? couldnt they just put a surveillance device on galactica, surely sharon couldve done that when she was there... or the other six that blew herself up... i dont think baltars a cylon, i think he thinks he is because hes trying to justify to himself how he could sign that death warrant and how he has screwed humanity so many times, if he thinks hes a cylon then he could live with himself because hes not evil and the greatest traitor of mankind ever, hes in fact a cylon and was only doin what his programming made him do... six in his head could well just be his own insanity, he hasnt gotta tumour but he might be horribly schizophrenic.

kai olbaid wrote:he lacks compassion, is totally out to save his own skin, and is helping the cylons get to earth so they can destroy the rest of humanity. I'd say Baltar lacks the qualities that make us human.

Col Tigh is the perfect example of a human. He cares, he loves, he hurts.

What show have you been watching? The moral fiber of the man is tearing apart as he deals with the demons of his personality. He is clearly in love, even though he has tried to bury that under his sarcasm and intellectualism. And since when is self-preservation not a human quality? And yeah, if you think that's why Baltar is helping the Cylons, I think you're flat out wrong.

Hammy...Yes, we've seen the "Council" where there are two of each models. But we've only seen seven out of the twelve models. There are five others that we haven't seen and whom the others "Don't speak about." You can't argue that he can't be a Cylon just becuase we haven't seen Baltar as a Cylon copy.

read post above ^... and yea that was stupid of me... i knew it writing it but i was too lazy not to post.

I was refering to How Tigh got his stuff togeter in the end of the latest episode and came to save Bill, that's the greatest human quality right there. The ability to look at your worst nightmare and fall into the deepest depression to the point of self destructive behavior and managed to pull himself back together instead of wallowing in his own self pitty.

He didn't do it right away but come on the man KILLED his wife, that's gotta mess with your head. It took him some time, he is after all only Human.

Isn't the Hybred (the base star) Cylon the 8th cylon and there are four or did I misunderstand that?

kai olbaid wrote:Isn't the Hybred (the base star) Cylon the 8th cylon and there are four or did I misunderstand that?

No, Six said that there were five other models that they don't talk about. With the seven that we've seen, that makes twelve. The hybrids are not one of the twelve models.

Hybrids are the missing link between toasters and human forms. They are the base stars.

I figured that the hybrid was one of the five that they didn't talk about, and they just ended up showing her in the same episode.

BSG is literally the best written show on TV imo. Can't wait to see the next one - looks like its gonna be an incredible showdown.

Norbe.

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RIP Pegasus. It fought brilliantly and died with honour - saving the human race and denting the cylon fleet in the process... Well done.

I personally didn't like the show and SG seemed to be much more of my taste. It was aiming for part-realism from the beginning(most of stuff can be explained scientific, heck, even shielding isn't unreal thing). Never liked any show that tried to play the future of humanity(i.e 500/1000 years after our era) - simply it is just impossible to know how will humanity evolve(if at all) and all of it seems too much of fiction than science.
But again, it's only my taste. The best TV show ever written for me is Prison Break... SG goes far into the list after shows like "Firends" or "Married with children"(the El Bundy stuff) and so on. BSG being in lines with Star-trek in the very bottom.

nop ..it's like this SG1 (especially the old series with Oneill), SG Atlantis, Battlestar Galactica , Prison Brake , Andromeda & somewhere umonghst the last that I do like is Star Trek

dang you dr. spacey!... well im too lazy to write that bit about starbuck again...

there is a thing called copy and paste...

The Hamburglar wrote:as the bsg thread seems to have dissaperated im starting a new one because... ***SPOILERS BELOW***, if you havent seen the episode Maelstrom, do not read.

Starbucks dead. oh lord say it aint so. although the whole thing was a bit stupid, she killed herself becuase she "wasnt afraid anymore". what a jiff. since when were fighter pilots allowed take their own lives, i thought they were obliged to fight for and protect the galactica until they were killed. and also shes obviously gonna come back in some capacity, any speculations on what that could be?

oh and reaver, baltars not a cylon.

Øsiris wrote:maybe starbuck is a cylon that would be interesting to say the least.

Manetheren wrote:Since the new series is paralleling the original in many ways, this is leading up to the children of the gods episode(if i remember right) when the beings dressed in white saved apollo and starbuck?? So maybe she isnt dead but we think she is.