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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:13 am
by Sleipnir
Inferno wrote:Now this si the worst idea ever. You know what ruins games when they start? Recruitment links.


The easiest, boringest, noobiest way of getting to the top. Nobody uses skill for newer gaes they either use clicks or a wallet. I dont want to see this game get influenced by clicks no matter what they do.



Erm.... this game started almost 2 years ago. And back then, there was so much influence by clicks, it wasn't funny. That's why limits were placed on max clicks per day, and link exchange sites were banned. However, 2 years into the running, clicks have become obsolete. You can get a maximum of 50 extra units a day. One attack is enough to get the naq for at least getting a UP of 50, and a lot higher too. There's people with millions of units today, even if the units per click were increased, getting a few clicks will not get you to the top.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:53 am
by Puck
Rafael Nadal wrote:dont really like it, its just like getting free uu with no cost.


The 'click' system was more or less gotten rid of because it was being exploited by too many people (and alliances).

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:49 am
by Hermes
I see, but what if it only helped the new members of the game; that all i was thinking about. I dont need it, it just look like it need updated.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:01 am
by Bazsy
If u want a friend of you join this game, u still can give your recruitment link to them, and they will join in as your officers. The other purpose (1unit / click) i completely pontless now, since any newb can raid and get 500uu / 15AT.

Raising the units given per click is pointless, and only would lead the cheaters abusing it, which we dont need, do we?

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:36 am
by Zeratul
new players dont know what sort of people to raid... and they dont know what is good profit from raiding...

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:47 am
by Bazsy
There is a newbie section on these forums, and there are newbie helpers, for example me. And they can get even more uu from radomly raiding the ranks around them, then with the clicks...

Oh and show me a newb who can have 50friends to click on his link daily...

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:51 am
by Zeratul
when we joined, we had no idea how to best grow, and we didnt know about the newbie section... that is why we wrote that...

and no, we dont know of a newbie who has 50 people clicking his link every day...

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:52 am
by Sleipnir
Bazsy wrote:Raising the units given per click is pointless, and only would lead the cheaters abusing it, which we dont need, do we?


I don't see how cheaters would benefit, beyond what is intended. There's a maximum of 50 clicks per day so cheating your way to more clicks doesn't help. Link exchange sites are banned, and will lose you units instead of gaining so no cheating there. As UP grows, the units per click grow as well, but relative to your UP the benefit of clicks keeps getting smaller. So abusers will be better off raiding for the units. The only problem I can find is someone setting up lots of multies and clicking the links, and then raiding them. But even that sounds unlikely, there are easier ways to get your units.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:06 am
by Hermes
eney one have a good idea for a way we can use the links with out cheaters abusing it, and when i was new at this game i did not even know there was a forum; i played this game to rank 1500 before i knew there was a forum and when i go to the forum and ask something, no one would give me a answer.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:59 am
by Bazsy
Sleipnir wrote:
Bazsy wrote:Raising the units given per click is pointless, and only would lead the cheaters abusing it, which we dont need, do we?


I don't see how cheaters would benefit, beyond what is intended. There's a maximum of 50 clicks per day so cheating your way to more clicks doesn't help. Link exchange sites are banned, and will lose you units instead of gaining so no cheating there. As UP grows, the units per click grow as well, but relative to your UP the benefit of clicks keeps getting smaller. So abusers will be better off raiding for the units. The only problem I can find is someone setting up lots of multies and clicking the links, and then raiding them. But even that sounds unlikely, there are easier ways to get your units.


U r right.

Lets say for example lifers / click...
Cheaters wont show up, newbs get units and ic could be 20lifer / click.
Or how about this.
But the best would be some sort of short getting started FAQ which every newb get in a welcome message. and they will know what raiding is, and how it works...




luffy wrote:eney one have a good idea for a way we can use the links with out cheaters abusing it, and when i was new at this game i did not even know there was a forum; i played this game to rank 1500 before i knew there was a forum and when i go to the forum and ask something, no one would give me a answer.


Well, there is a text menu on the top left of the page...
There are Help & Rules, and Forum too...
I think its a bit strange u didnt started the game with reading help and rules:)
So if u didnt know there is a forum, its weird. I think its more likely u didnt know what is it up for.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:12 am
by Zeratul
we knew about the forum, we just didnt know about the newbie section... and the help guide didnt help us learn much about starting up...

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:38 am
by Bazsy
I wont start an argument on that. cause i started with quantum and got help from others there... but i did read the help and it helped as i remember. But i cant say a newb can start from that. But everyone was new onece...

About the forum i registered a few months later.

Without going too far offtopic i think a decend quick how to would help the newbies much more, than giving them more uu / click.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:41 am
by Zeratul
but better would be to give them both...

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:49 am
by Bazsy
Zeratul wrote:but better would be to give them both...


Im not against it....


But consider this... 2 good hit with raid is 1000uu...
thats 50click wiht 20/click...

If u teach them how to raid, they can get far more uu than with the clicks.
But the clicks can remain or give more...
I just pointing out the iportances...

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:55 am
by Zeratul
it is easy to teach them raiding, the hard is finding them at the beginning...