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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:34 am
by Bad Wolf
I think the 'hope' for this game can come in two forms,
One, from the admin, he would change the game, make new goals,new updates to change way wars are fought.
Two, from the players, we need to remeber we are the people who play this game, and we are the ones who can change it. If ETL fancyed dispanding the COP he could anytime he wants, if 100 alliances wantd to take on the COP they could. We all need to remeber it is in our hands too.
BW
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:18 am
by Lore
crazywolf wrote:Lore wrote:Just fighting with dignity and respect weather you win or lose is a win in my book. And I agree with you Buck. There are people who would be proud to break 1 omegans def, and they should be if they can do it. No matter the cost.
really.... I am gettnig confused as to whether you support Omega at the moment Lore, perhaps it is not what you type it is our understanding, that is your second post where I have felt that you are almost cheering Omegas opposites on, and inviting people to attack us.
probably just my understanding of what you are saying
Sorry Wolfe.
I'm cheering their will to fight a unbeatable foe. I'm just tryin to encourage the server to do what they got to do. I am in no way asking anyone/everyone to attack Omega if they have no problem with them.
I'm just tryin to get a civil discusion going and a good natured war. It is really sad to see the true pain in the EPA/Omega war. Doesnt seem to me that many are having fun over there and its sad to see.
I'm still actually rather new to the forums and can't always get my point across without body language and emotion/expression. I think there is a misunderstanding of my meaning.
Re: Food for thoughts
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:47 am
by Reeb
geisha wrote:I am a proud member of Dirty Dozen and am 100% loyal to my alliance. I am in Dirty Dozen for Dirty Dozen and not for the CoP. My loyalty to my alliance is committing me to accept, respect and honour the CoP pact. That being said, I hope it is clear that I would never do anything nor support any actions against the CoP. But that doesn’t keep me from criticizing the influence the CoP has on this community.
I am Reeb, member of Dirty Dozen, and I support this message.
For discussion's sake: Are a few individual members of the CoP pressing their will a little too strong on the rest of the community? I would have to say yes, they are. Alas, they are still allies, and I won't jeapordize my spot in Dirty Dozen just because of a few loose cannons.
All I ask is those players calm down a little and quit taking things quite so seriously.
On the other hand, there are players that seek out members of the CoP to hassle just because they have beef with other members of the CoP. That's just the way things are, those who cannot beat the ones they are aggravated with will always seek out weaker targets that they can hurt. Are they in the right? No, they aren't.
Then again, we also as a group should take a step back and ask ourselves why these people are so irritated. Possibly it is because they are being bullied around by others. Maybe they just think they can help bring down a big power.
Maybe we should take a step back and try to work things out first instead of destroying defenses and spies. Wars will eventually happen no matter what, but lets at least try to work things out before it comes to that.
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:39 pm
by Robe
More good posts.
The key problem with a monopoly is that it creates inbalance in the game.
A Mega Alliance needs just one or two members to constantly farm active players from the safety of their team. The average Joe then begs them to stop so that they have time to improve their defence. His or her messages go unanswered, or they are blocked by the aggressor. Alliance leaders are informed but are often too busy to ascertain the full facts, or not sure how to pull their Mavericks into line.
All of a sudden, you have Power without Glory.
This eventually results in players either:
1. leaving the game from frustration
2. becoming martyrs trying to defend their honour and resources, or
3. war.
All three outcomes seem to be happening more regularly.
Not all evolution is good.
The game is not structured to support mega alliances.
The values of leaders dictate the culture of their Alliance.
With power comes responsibility.
I urge all leaders and players to work towards creating an environment of fair play by re-establishing a level playing field.
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:51 pm
by Bull-E
most of these post seem to agree on a superpower ruling the games bad, but is there anychance that the CoP will consider these opinoins and dissolve but form NAP?
i think here is a real life example of this superpower
the US belongs to nato, which includes most western democracys.
on its own the US is the strongest nation on earth
to add to that power they belong to the strongest allience on earth.
now try to imagine being those who don't live in the NATO nations
i bet they feel oppressed and hopelless
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:38 pm
by systemlord yu
nice one

, chosen one

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:19 am
by Bazsy
Being in NATO but not in CoP i think i have a balanced life:) LOL
now off with the spam. Very good ideas. Maybe someon shall write a petition, anyone can sign it, than send that one to all alliance leaders.
D2 is supporting any good ideas. But 1 alliance wont do it:)
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:18 pm
by Bull-E
haha, me too, maybe some CoP members r non NATO
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:05 pm
by Lore
Why do you think a NAP will result any different then the CoP is now???
What is also a viable tactic that more power players put there differences aside and unite. I mean look at the current situation and the CF/GA war. How many people are sitting on the side lines doing nothing but yet whine everytime the "superpowers" step on them? CoP are good for 2 main reasons in my eyes.
1. superior comunication, tactics, and intellegence.
2. the willingness to expend every resource without a second thought.
Granted the have the largest armies in the game but there is power in numbers.
A NAP between the CoP members would have the same effect as far as I'm concerned. But heck I may be wrong.
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:13 am
by Acronon
Part of the problem is that it seems to me that alot of people seem to think that they are owed alot of things in this game.
Like they have more of a right to do things in game than any other player.
The really big problem is that alot of people really want to just play the game and enjoy it so they bow before those established and long term players that have long since held and mastered the ways and powers of the game.
There is a legend section for Quantum and have often wondered what it would be like to have such a thing in main for players that have played for a long time and held power but finally retired and let the game continue to grow.
The game has no balance and it has no unity community any longer.
Everybody needs to remember that they are all a part of a very large and intricate community of people that are all here because we all share a similar interest or you wouldn't be here in the first place.
Never let anyone tell you that you cannot do something in this game.
It is here for all of you to have fun and please do so.
Mass your friends and then help them rebuild, it is fun sometimes, lol.
Just be civil with one another and remember that no matter what the differences you may have with another person in this community you are here with a similar interest.
There is no point to me remaining in this community anymore and I am sure that this post will be bantered at and made fun of by others that knew me in the past but I really do not care what they think anymore.
I wish you all the best of luck with repairing the major train wreck that this community has become.
Take care everyone
Good Luck & Good Hunting,
Acronon
EDIT: One more thing, just in case some "game mod" wishes to tell someone that my IP is still active on a game account, my 9 year old son plays this game under the name of Brim_Stone and uses the same IP as myself. Thanks

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:18 am
by Tyber Zann
Acronon wrote:Part of the problem is that it seems to me that alot of people seem to think that they are owed alot of things in this game.
Like they have more of a right to do things in game than any other player.
The really big problem is that alot of people really want to just play the game and enjoy it so they bow before those established and long term players that have long since held and mastered the ways and powers of the game.
There is a legend section for Quantum and have often wondered what it would be like to have such a thing in main for players that have played for a long time and held power but finally retired and let the game continue to grow.
The game has no balance and it has no unity community any longer.
Everybody needs to remember that they are all a part of a very large and intricate community of people that are all here because we all share a similar interest or you wouldn't be here in the first place.

Never let anyone tell you that you cannot do something in this game.
It is here for all of you to have fun and please do so.
Mass your friends and then help them rebuild, it is fun sometimes, lol.
Just be civil with one another and remember that no matter what the differences you may have with another person in this community you are here with a similar interest.
There is no point to me remaining in this community anymore and I am sure that this post will be bantered at and made fun of by others that knew me in the past but I really do not care what they think anymore.
I wish you all the best of luck with repairing the major train wreck that this community has become.
Take care everyone
Good Luck & Good Hunting,
Acronon
EDIT: One more thing, just in case some "game mod" wishes to tell someone that my IP is still active on a game account, my 9 year old son plays this game under the name of Brim_Stone and uses the same IP as myself. Thanks

well said
get on msn you! great guy to talk to
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:31 am
by Acronon
Nah, sorry mate, just leaving, you take care.
Now, let's not spam, lol.
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:41 am
by TheRook
Acronon wrote:Brim_Stone
Mass him... (only joking)
GL with your future

TheRook
edit
Acronon wrote:Nah, sorry mate, just leaving, you take care.

Now, let's not spam, lol.
oops

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:43 am
by Tyber Zann
Acronon wrote:Nah, sorry mate, just leaving, you take care.

Now, let's not spam, lol.
well have a good one, and have fun at christmas

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:47 am
by Sleipnir
Acronon wrote:The game ... has no unity community any longer.
Everybody needs to remember that they are all a part of a very large and intricate community of people that are all here because we all share a similar interest or you wouldn't be here in the first place.

...
Just be civil with one another and remember that no matter what the differences you may have with another person in this community you are here with a similar interest.
I wish you all the best of luck with repairing the major train wreck that this community has become.
Sorry, but I think your most recent actions disqualify you from making any judgement about the state of this community. But good riddance to one of the drivers that tried to wreck this train on purpose.