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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:12 am
by Grand Admiral Martin
what about caps? how would large armies ever keep up with those with mega armies if they cant raid.

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:38 pm
by Zeratul
perhaps through using resources on UP?

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 4:00 pm
by Grand Admiral Martin
Zeratul wrote:perhaps through using resources on UP?


my next up upgrade costs 250mil!!!! how am i meant to catch up like that, hopefully by then time i hit the buy-in cap things will have changed for the better

Re: A way to help prevent raiders.( large raiders)

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:41 pm
by dead solid
Fortis wrote:
high empty wrote:
High Empty says:
Rank, for UP ( total)
High Empty says:
rank for army size (total)
High Empty says:
rank for income ( total)
High Empty says:
all three


i think this would be good but i dont think it should change our total rank, i think it should show u what they are ranked but it shouldnt change our total rank


exactly what i thought :p

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:51 pm
by god of darkness
it's a nice idea :D

but wait a wile with getting it online
i'm going to raid like hell in the upcomming X-mass vacation :lol:

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:45 pm
by The_Silencer
sounds like a good idea :)

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:46 pm
by Wolf359
I think it would be good to know where you stand in regards to UP rank - but I think that it should only be known to teh player - i.e. not available to anyone else, as it may unfairly make them a target for raiders. If other players wish to find out someones UP (and rank) they can still spy on them.

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:00 pm
by High Empty
Wolf359 wrote:I think it would be good to know where you stand in regards to UP rank - but I think that it should only be known to teh player - i.e. not available to anyone else, as it may unfairly make them a target for raiders. If other players wish to find out someones UP (and rank) they can still spy on them.


Well i wanted it to be such that is was a factor in there overall ranking, And you couldn't spy them to find the rank just the raw Up.

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:21 pm
by Zeratul
seems like good idea to hide them...

maybe have a visible total economy rank?

where this rank is based on army size, income, and up, but no individual part is visible...

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:43 pm
by SVaRuN
hmm interesting well my two cents:

Why is it good
1- Rank will become more realistic show of power (mind the more part :D)

2. Farmers will get all the naq feeding guys together so they wont have to
search through rankings

3. ppl with army size from 50-75mils (and more) will be slowed down (although most already slow down once at that point.........The CAP etc helped with that)

Why is it bad
1.Once ppl on the 50mils they will have more dificult time catching the 75mils+ guys (but that also is good as we dont want to go completly unfair on the bigger guys)

2. Being unable to hide yourself for what ever cause LoL

3. The biggest guys get smacked again for trying to be good...for investing all the effort

My addition to this...some kind hall of fame.. for instance----->


OFFICAL hall of fame
It would display (somthing like a print screen) ranking on a first (or last) day of the month and get stored in some part of the forum. (perhaps limited to the first page or from rank one to thousand.
example:
Rankings on 1 of the January 2007 (rankings 1-1000)
1. XXX
2. YYY
3. CCC
....

(this way also being ranked somewhere would actually mean smth in SGW forever) and perhaps would encurage ppl to stat build


Best Regards: SVARUN

P.S. Good idea High Empty

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:08 pm
by Kuraiheishi
I think you guys missed something. This update will HELP raiders. It will bring those accounts that have just a big UP and nothing else up higher, it will send those accounts that have only 200UP down. IE: it will bring good raids up, and bring bad raids down. Which means less searching for targets.

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:03 pm
by 12agnar0k
another point, it will be harder to ascend if you have a small army in main, this helps stop you from ascendign befroe your main account is ready to take the damage 8)

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:14 pm
by High Empty
Kuraiheishi wrote:I think you guys missed something. This update will HELP raiders. It will bring those accounts that have just a big UP and nothing else up higher, it will send those accounts that have only 200UP down. IE: it will bring good raids up, and bring bad raids down. Which means less searching for targets.


lol i didn't miss it, it's one of the best points. Since no one will let me delete those accounts, i'am finding other ways to do it.

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:52 am
by blahh
I m biased being a raider, and what do i know but still:
Not so long ago there was an update that prevented the use of brokers to get (among other things) to 100mil uu size.. (only up after 75mil) you didnt like it... now you are proposing that it should be prevented to get from 50 - 75 with raiding (so again only up growth this time after 50mil)
am i the only 1 that finds that weird ?

and so it wont be that i m covering my ass since i m one of those "big" raiders i suppose..
my up sucks so up ranks wont hurt me...
as for the income rank i wont mind turning the realm alert to critical for 1 h or 2 while i raid..
so i doubt much could be achived with this update.. except it would be another one in the long line of limitations that are in my oppinion destroyn the game and causing many good and old players to leave.

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:27 pm
by Selling
blahh wrote: you didnt like it... now you are proposing that it should be prevented to get from 50 - 75 with raiding


Wrong point (not to be mean)

Look at it this way. Say you reach 50mil raiding. so your income and Up and Def will be way up there, Covert will probly be up there also.

but with 0 attack, and MS you could still easilly get down into the 3k+ mark or so.

you would just have to be VERY smart about where you put what for how long. also if army size was ranked. there are a few ways around that to drop that down during raiding and such.

It just makes it HARDer to get very low ranks to raid alot of good targets.

BUT it would also bring alot of the better raids to higher ranks compensating for that.