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Jack O'Neill wrote:He did not say that he said no one was abused! Obviously Jason doesn't care and he was a part of the whole multi thing and knew PSI had one. It's his game he can allow whoever he wants to have a multi yes I believe if you are going to say no multis then that means no multis but whatever it's his property he can do as he pleases you don't like it go elsewhere

Actualy, the account Psi used to Multi was initaly around for a valit reason, as a test account when Psi was gamemod.

However, Psi wound up misusing it, thus classing it as being a multi.

The Tok`ra wrote:

Jack O'Neill wrote:He did not say that he said no one was abused! Obviously Jason doesn't care and he was a part of the whole multi thing and knew PSI had one. It's his game he can allow whoever he wants to have a multi yes I believe if you are going to say no multis then that means no multis but whatever it's his property he can do as he pleases you don't like it go elsewhere

Actualy, the account Psi used to Multi was initaly around for a valit reason, as a test account when Psi was gamemod.

However, Psi wound up misusing it, thus classing it as being a multi.

that still doesn't change it's classification. you're bending words meanings to your own end.

~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~

Psi Kiya Trist wrote:

The Tok`ra wrote:

Jack O'Neill wrote:He did not say that he said no one was abused! Obviously Jason doesn't care and he was a part of the whole multi thing and knew PSI had one. It's his game he can allow whoever he wants to have a multi yes I believe if you are going to say no multis then that means no multis but whatever it's his property he can do as he pleases you don't like it go elsewhere

Actualy, the account Psi used to Multi was initaly around for a valit reason, as a test account when Psi was gamemod.

However, Psi wound up misusing it, thus classing it as being a multi.

that still doesn't change it's classification. you're bending words meanings to your own end.

~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~

hardly Psi.

You took an account that was intended to be used to test new features, tweaks, and updates, and whatever else needed doing, in the game, and used it to attack someone that you, due to GA treaty and common sense, could not attack safely with your own account.

That is what changed its classification im my eyes Psi.

You have a test account, test with it, even if someone annoies you

You have a real account, hit with it, especily if they annoy you.

Psi was allready no-longer game mod when this occured, from what Ive heard from him.

tokra stop being an idiot. get over it.

psi did a very good job as game mod, and if it was needed to test as game mod, thereby not using bugs with the real account, then who gives a damn.

psi has put a lot of time into this game, and hasnt been paid. if you want to put 3-4 hours into this each and every day for 2 years, putting up with Bull@#$% like this, then be my guest. otherwise bugger off and let the people do their jobs.

Im not negating the good he's done Bryam, but what bug did he test ?

All Ive heard from him is he was testing 'loyality to a freind'

Which still beggs the question: Why didnt he use his real account.

well this is mostly bs.. can we just locked this if he doesnt want to get over it .. its dead its in the past.. if you really want to push it harder go to the higher ups and pm them.

ok this thread is getting silly. Psi, as were all supermods was given the option of changing their id numbers due to being massed for doing their jobs. I was also offered this but there is a vast difference between Psi and me. No one would dare mass my account if they know what's good for them, so I never needed to take such an opportunity.

As for Psi being a game mod, I assure you he was a game mod in the sense of testing, which a few of us did. The game mod that catches cheats DOES NOT PLAY this game anymore. So Psi hasn't broken any gaming rules.

How is using a second accont to escape responsibility for hitting someone not cheating ?

I fail to see how that is so.

When I hit you after your assencion during the EPA / Omega war ETL, I didnt hide who I was, I stood up and fight.

I have an issue with someone, I hit with my REAL account (Like the 3 times Ive hit Psi) I do NOT utilize an account intended for testing game functanaity or make a second account to hit someone.

THAT is the differnce.

The Tok`ra wrote:How is using a second accont to escape responsibility for hitting someone not cheating ?

I fail to see how that is so.

When I hit you after your assencion during the EPA / Omega war ETL, I didnt hide who I was, I stood up and fight.

I have an issue with someone, I hit with my REAL account (Like the 3 times Ive hit Psi) I do NOT utilize an account intended for testing game functanaity or make a second account to hit someone.

THAT is the differnce.

Psi didn't have the intent to cause damage though, and didn't exactly hide that it was him that did it?

Finarfin wrote:

The Tok`ra wrote:How is using a second accont to escape responsibility for hitting someone not cheating ?

I fail to see how that is so.

When I hit you after your assencion during the EPA / Omega war ETL, I didnt hide who I was, I stood up and fight.

I have an issue with someone, I hit with my REAL account (Like the 3 times Ive hit Psi) I do NOT utilize an account intended for testing game functanaity or make a second account to hit someone.

THAT is the differnce.

Psi didn't have the intent to cause damage though, and didn't exactly hide that it was him that did it?

So if I made a second acount, named it 'Tok`ra2', gave it 1 attack weapon, and attacked someone, that wouldnt be cheating ?

And yes, I know that initaly the account was for legit purposes, but its the end result that Im talking about here.

Finarfin wrote:

The Tok`ra wrote:How is using a second accont to escape responsibility for hitting someone not cheating ?

I fail to see how that is so.

When I hit you after your assencion during the EPA / Omega war ETL, I didnt hide who I was, I stood up and fight.

I have an issue with someone, I hit with my REAL account (Like the 3 times Ive hit Psi) I do NOT utilize an account intended for testing game functanaity or make a second account to hit someone.

THAT is the differnce.

Psi didn't have the intent to cause damage though, and didn't exactly hide that it was him that did it?

Actually he attempted to steal a planet, so the attempt was real.

And he changed the name of the account after hitting if I remember correctly.

sarcasmsvoice wrote:

Finarfin wrote:

The Tok`ra wrote:How is using a second accont to escape responsibility for hitting someone not cheating ?

I fail to see how that is so.

When I hit you after your assencion during the EPA / Omega war ETL, I didnt hide who I was, I stood up and fight.

I have an issue with someone, I hit with my REAL account (Like the 3 times Ive hit Psi) I do NOT utilize an account intended for testing game functanaity or make a second account to hit someone.

THAT is the differnce.

Psi didn't have the intent to cause damage though, and didn't exactly hide that it was him that did it?

Actually he attempted to steal a planet, so the attempt was real.

And he changed the name of the account after hitting if I remember correctly.

Ah, so the plot thickens.

I know that, at the time I first massed Psi his multi was named the same as his fourm name, so it was something else Sarc ?

Once again ....... intersting ......


Also intersting is this PM with Psi I had about the contacting a mod thread........

And if he changed the name after hitting ......... he must be lying in this message.


Note especily the part that is large

Psi Kiya Trist wrote:

The Tok`ra wrote:

Psi Kiya Trist wrote:

The Tok`ra wrote:while my hangover makes me wana be a **Filtered** and get it re-opend, I jsut ask that you add in I agree to locking it til forum comments.

PS: even if he sees in your favor, Ill still think youre a cheater.

then i guess we're truly in a deadlock.

~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~

What it boils down to is this.

Forum has no account ingame minus his test accounts.

You however, do have an ingame account.

You resorted to a 2nd account to hit with.

That is why I consider you a multi.

i still contend the message was ment to be sent via a known name. which is why.

but i guess that won't ever be a good enough answer for you.

~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~

Oh, whats this ?

Another quote ?

Ok.

Psi Kiya Trist wrote:certain attacks were ment as support of friends ingame, meaning if an unknown name had done so, it would've had less impact, than a known one.

It can be found in its origonal thread here

http://herebegames.com/StarGateWars/vie ... 58&start=0

Page 1.

IMHO, putting aside the annoyance of how wes bought this up, and goes on about it, It does seem as though psi did multi, and it doesnt mattter how successful he was, the fact is he broke the rules, he should be punishhed, and punished harshly because he is an admin of the forum and as such, sets an example to others. However, this is only because psi does not dispute any of the important details, if he did, it wouldnt be this clean cut.

just4laughs wrote:IMHO, putting aside the annoyance of how wes bought this up, and goes on about it, It does seem as though psi did multi, and it doesnt mattter how successful he was, the fact is he broke the rules, he should be punishhed, and punished harshly because he is an admin of the forum and as such, sets an example to others. However, this is only because psi does not dispute any of the important details, if he did, it wouldnt be this clean cut.

I sent a PM to mailto:urgent@SGW.com the a few days ago about this, seems they also find it intersting.

Hi Daniel,
I am not clear on what our "admin" relationship is the the folks at
herebegames.com, I have asked for clarification. We will look into the
details of what is written in the forum as at the very least it is a
breach of etiquette.
Thank you
Admin Sue