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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:52 pm
by Munchy
RepliJake wrote:
RobinInDaHood wrote:
RepliJake wrote:In future you will, look for the end of the auction for notice.


Ok, dumb question perhaps, but where does that happen? I don't get an in-game PM or anything, right? Do I just need to periodically check the auction market screen?



As far as I know, the auction screen says when it is ending.


People shouldn't complain about losing something they never really had, and I can't believe what a big deal 200 mil is to some lol



While the 200 million wasn't really that much for me, the farm fest that I participated in afterwards sure helped me a good bit :-D

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:22 pm
by Lord_Voldemort
I think that everyone is just trying to say that if we would have known that the money was coming it would have been nice. Not only did it hurt to lose that kind of money (I only make 167k a turn) but it hurt when I got farmed as well. It would not have been that hard to let everyone know that the money was going to be there.

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:44 pm
by RobinInDaHood
Admin likes his surprises. 8)

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:56 pm
by The Four Horsemen
Padraig wrote:well this blows, damn thing screwed me over, shouldnt it have showed in the bank. I just got on and found i had been hit for 200 mil, thats alot for me concidering i make only like 200k a turn

same here dont you think they should have sent out a message or something to accept then recieve the money, like the ascended life force you get when ascending that stays in the market? caus i could have really used those dmu

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:01 pm
by RobinInDaHood
Don't worry, you'll have plenty of more chances. The superweapon sale results in the distribution of DMU and will happen again and again. :)

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:03 pm
by Munchy
Yup, but next time(and forever after) it will be for about half as much.

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:57 am
by nomadicstruggler
Im in a bit of shock too. pity i wasnt online when it came in either. im only on 50k per turn so it really was a massive increase for me. and it went before we got to know each other. :(

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:13 am
by Lore
Munchy wrote:Yup, but next time(and forever after) it will be for about half as much.


Still gives me something to save my AT for. Just hope the auction dosen't always end at 2 am here LOL

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:31 am
by Shooting Star
Everyone is in shock, especially those of us who are diverting a tremendous amount of resources to this super weapon. Now, I do not know why it is of particular importance to anyone what happens with the super weapon so long as they don't get hit by it. It was (and still is) stunting the growth of the two biggest players in the game. Yes we are hitting our own alliance with the weapon because that way we know where it is and where it is going at all times. Were they benefitting from it? I suppose so. But I told Forum this a week before the updates hit the regular ascended server. First it was going to be a ping-pong match between me and Sinister, just selling the weapon back and forth. Then he nixxed that and said that, if you bought the weapon, you would have to use it, you couldn't just auction it off again. So then I pointed out that, if I used it on my own alliance members, I could ensure that they would get a healthy sum of DMU for their troubles. Remember, this is a week BEFORE the updates were brought to ascension. I told him that this is what was going to happen and if he was OK with that. He said, that's great. I even pointed out to him that it was a way, albeit an inelegant way, to transfer resources from one account to another and he did not have a problem with that. Now, a month later, all of a sudden, it comes as a surprise to him that that is exactly what is happening with the weapon.

Frankly, I don't see a problem with it. I don't want to get hit by the weapon. The damage it will do to me is 10 times greater than what it would do to just about anyone else on the server (which is one of the problems I have with the super weapon). I am willing to part with a great deal of my resources to ensure that I NEVER get hit with the weapon. In order to do this, I have to hit people whom I trust will put the weapon up for auction after they get hit rather than using against me or someone else. For this "service" they receive a rather nice payday (and now, so will all of you). And wonder of wonders, you will also know the exact time that the DMU will be received by your accounts by watching the auction timer.

I hope this puts an end to the **Filtered** about the superweapon. Believe me, I can do more damage to most of your accounts than that superweapon ever could whereas the converse is not true. Forum put a broken item into the game; I am making sure that it doesn't get used until he has the good sense to remove the weapon period. If anyone has a problem with that, you may PM me or message me on MSN (mailto:master_thespian@hotmail.com).

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:38 pm
by Bull-E
not happy :evil:

my comand star was really damaged :evil:

there should be a warning when the turns start going again

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:32 pm
by ARC_trooper
i didnt even noticed it :shock:

i used it but didnt really thought about where that came from :p

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:55 pm
by RepliJake
Just look for the auction ending time in future.

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:23 pm
by Lore
Shooting Star wrote:Everyone is in shock, especially those of us who are diverting a tremendous amount of resources to this super weapon. Now, I do not know why it is of particular importance to anyone what happens with the super weapon so long as they don't get hit by it. It was (and still is) stunting the growth of the two biggest players in the game. Yes we are hitting our own alliance with the weapon because that way we know where it is and where it is going at all times. Were they benefitting from it? I suppose so. But I told Forum this a week before the updates hit the regular ascended server. First it was going to be a ping-pong match between me and Sinister, just selling the weapon back and forth. Then he nixxed that and said that, if you bought the weapon, you would have to use it, you couldn't just auction it off again. So then I pointed out that, if I used it on my own alliance members, I could ensure that they would get a healthy sum of DMU for their troubles. Remember, this is a week BEFORE the updates were brought to ascension. I told him that this is what was going to happen and if he was OK with that. He said, that's great. I even pointed out to him that it was a way, albeit an inelegant way, to transfer resources from one account to another and he did not have a problem with that. Now, a month later, all of a sudden, it comes as a surprise to him that that is exactly what is happening with the weapon.

Frankly, I don't see a problem with it. I don't want to get hit by the weapon. The damage it will do to me is 10 times greater than what it would do to just about anyone else on the server (which is one of the problems I have with the super weapon). I am willing to part with a great deal of my resources to ensure that I NEVER get hit with the weapon. In order to do this, I have to hit people whom I trust will put the weapon up for auction after they get hit rather than using against me or someone else. For this "service" they receive a rather nice payday (and now, so will all of you). And wonder of wonders, you will also know the exact time that the DMU will be received by your accounts by watching the auction timer.

I hope this puts an end to the **Filtered** about the superweapon. Believe me, I can do more damage to most of your accounts than that superweapon ever could whereas the converse is not true. Forum put a broken item into the game; I am making sure that it doesn't get used until he has the good sense to remove the weapon period. If anyone has a problem with that, you may PM me or message me on MSN (mailto:master_thespian@hotmail.com).



I really don't see the point of the SW either mate. I also dont have a problem with you and sinister keeping it under wraps.

My question to you is---If you have to use it or sell it then why don't you get 2 or 3 non playing ascended accounts to just smash each other everytime they get it? it could pass between the 2 or 3 accounts from now on. They would keep it in limbo and you and sinister would no longer have to continue paying for it.

OR am I missing something?

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:17 am
by Munchy
Lore wrote:
Shooting Star wrote:Everyone is in shock, especially those of us who are diverting a tremendous amount of resources to this super weapon. Now, I do not know why it is of particular importance to anyone what happens with the super weapon so long as they don't get hit by it. It was (and still is) stunting the growth of the two biggest players in the game. Yes we are hitting our own alliance with the weapon because that way we know where it is and where it is going at all times. Were they benefitting from it? I suppose so. But I told Forum this a week before the updates hit the regular ascended server. First it was going to be a ping-pong match between me and Sinister, just selling the weapon back and forth. Then he nixxed that and said that, if you bought the weapon, you would have to use it, you couldn't just auction it off again. So then I pointed out that, if I used it on my own alliance members, I could ensure that they would get a healthy sum of DMU for their troubles. Remember, this is a week BEFORE the updates were brought to ascension. I told him that this is what was going to happen and if he was OK with that. He said, that's great. I even pointed out to him that it was a way, albeit an inelegant way, to transfer resources from one account to another and he did not have a problem with that. Now, a month later, all of a sudden, it comes as a surprise to him that that is exactly what is happening with the weapon.

Frankly, I don't see a problem with it. I don't want to get hit by the weapon. The damage it will do to me is 10 times greater than what it would do to just about anyone else on the server (which is one of the problems I have with the super weapon). I am willing to part with a great deal of my resources to ensure that I NEVER get hit with the weapon. In order to do this, I have to hit people whom I trust will put the weapon up for auction after they get hit rather than using against me or someone else. For this "service" they receive a rather nice payday (and now, so will all of you). And wonder of wonders, you will also know the exact time that the DMU will be received by your accounts by watching the auction timer.

I hope this puts an end to the **Filtered** about the superweapon. Believe me, I can do more damage to most of your accounts than that superweapon ever could whereas the converse is not true. Forum put a broken item into the game; I am making sure that it doesn't get used until he has the good sense to remove the weapon period. If anyone has a problem with that, you may PM me or message me on MSN (mailto:master_thespian@hotmail.com).



I really don't see the point of the SW either mate. I also dont have a problem with you and sinister keeping it under wraps.

My question to you is---If you have to use it or sell it then why don't you get 2 or 3 non playing ascended accounts to just smash each other everytime they get it? it could pass between the 2 or 3 accounts from now on. They would keep it in limbo and you and sinister would no longer have to continue paying for it.

OR am I missing something?


You can only be hit every 30 days, so it would actually take about 10-20 accounts to do something like that(because you don't have to use it immidiately). Plus, in its current state, it can be used to actually benifit accounts, at the cost of the larger ones.(50% of 400 bil dmu is still a crap load for most accounts).

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:36 am
by Shooting Star
As Munchy said, you can only be hit by the weapon every 30 days. Now, given the fact that you have 48 hours to use the weapon once it enters your realm and it takes 24 hours to enter the realm of the person being hit, that is a maximum of five days between hits. So you would need a minimum of six accounts just using the weapon on each other and probably at least ten, just to be sure. Frankly, I don't mind giving up some income to help others in the game. But I would rather there weren't such a thing as the super weapon in the game or if it were less "broken". I have a few ways in which the weapon can be fixed.

1.) Remove the weapon from the game completely. It is broken and is designed as a "Screw the top accounts" weapon.

2.) Make the damage fixed (not a fixed percentage but a fixed amount). Destroying ALL weapons, regardless of how many you have and 5% of all planets, regardless of how many you have and untraining all the rest of your planets, regardless of how many you have is absolutely a "screw you for playing so well" update. Or make the damage based upon the strength of the account using it ie. if someone with 5 million planets hits me with the weapon, they can destroy 5% of 5 million planets or 250K planets. They could destroy a number of weapons equal to the number that they currently possess. And they could untrain a number of planets equal to their planet total - 5%. That is something that I could live with.
Whether the rest of you could live with it if I hit you with the weapon is something else entirely.

3.) Put a damage cap on the weapon. Jason, I know you are all about damage caps. Lord knows I have to put up with a a lot of them that are NOT in my favor (ie. descension). How about a damage cap on the ascended super weapon that is in my favor? It does X% of your planets up to X amount of planets at 10 million planet size or 20 million planet size. But the damage has to stop somewhere. Me losing 5 million planets when someone else only loses 250K is ridiculous, unfair, and just downright mean to people who have worked hard to obtain a position of power only to be deballed at every turn.