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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:05 pm
by Shooting Star
Raven wrote:its the problem that nobody can ever catch up to the people on top even if they do double ascensions i really aint bothering playing anything i dont have even chances on......
Yes you cant raid me right now but eventually you will if i put enough resouces in and it will only make me a good farm there no chance to actually do much against the top accounts
ok you don't want to play ascension; that's fine. but you shouldn't be rewarded and those of us who do play punished for your ineptitude or apathy. I have made several suggestions already that benefit EVERYONE, not just the ones who refuse to play a server because they feel that they cannot compete. So, in order to compensate, you try and bully the accounts in main that sacrificed a great deal of resources to get their ascended accounts to that level because, by your own admission, you did not because you just ascended for the bonuses and the weaponry. In other words, you exploited a loophole in the rules of the game for your own advantage and used it in a way that it was not intended to be used. And, unlike me, you did it knowingly. Now, unlike some people on this server, I am not going to resort to name calling. I will just let others make their inferrences and take further action if they deem necessary. All I will say is that, before you throw stones at others, you might want to make sure you are without sin first.
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:55 am
by urogard
~Phoenix~ wrote:So with a 130% boost he managed to make 65k fleets beat 140k fleets? I think you need math lessons.
i never said that it was the only boost he got but i said that without that rank bonus he would by far not have gotten past that defence
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:48 am
by Tyicius
I think Guided Planets should be raidable, but only to a point.
Ex: 300,000 Guided Planets, only 50k are raidable OR the closer they are to your rank the more you can raid from them.
The percentage of Guided Planets that you take with each raid (15AT), should be lowered aswell.
I honestly don't look for people with Unvisited Planets anymore, I look for accounts with a ton of Guided Planets and little to zero defense

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:10 am
by nomis_17
urogard wrote:Hells__Angel wrote:I discovered today that raiding or even just attacking from a high rank is impossible.
So... is there even a point in having a strike?
you can still drop rank easily.
I've been told what at least 1 person did.
he drops rank
uses the rank modifier (he was ~give or take 10 ranks, about 40 ranks higher than the target) and still got a
!!130%!! bonus to attack and raiding.
with his 65k fleets and no mothership he beat 140k fleet defence and a 40 bil ms.
When i got told this i was like WTH. (btw the dude is now about rank 110). he dropped in rank, which i don't care. He was ABOVE the target, and still got a friggin 130% attack boost on him.
IMHO the modifier shouldn't be based on current rank but influence power ONLY.
hmm, that sounds like something out of my attack log...btw i didnt start with 65k fleets, i initially had 110k but gradually sold them as the def got smaller to reduce my repair bill. also, he had lvl 35 def and i have 45 strike, so that along with the 130% is why i was able to raid him...
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:50 am
by nomis_17
nomis_17 wrote:urogard wrote:Hells__Angel wrote:I discovered today that raiding or even just attacking from a high rank is impossible.
So... is there even a point in having a strike?
you can still drop rank easily.
I've been told what at least 1 person did.
he drops rank
uses the rank modifier (he was ~give or take 10 ranks, about 40 ranks higher than the target) and still got a
!!130%!! bonus to attack and raiding.
with his 65k fleets and no mothership he beat 140k fleet defence and a 40 bil ms.
When i got told this i was like WTH. (btw the dude is now about rank 110). he dropped in rank, which i don't care. He was ABOVE the target, and still got a friggin 130% attack boost on him.
IMHO the modifier shouldn't be based on current rank but influence power ONLY.
hmm, that sounds like something out of my attack log...btw i didnt start with 65k fleets, i initially had 110k but gradually sold them as the def got smaller to reduce my repair bill. also, he had lvl 35 def and i have 45 strike, so that along with the 130% is why i was able to raid him...
lol, i just realised that you are the guy i raided...whats with the 3rd person talking? lol
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:21 am
by urogard
nomis_17 wrote:nomis_17 wrote:urogard wrote:Hells__Angel wrote:I discovered today that raiding or even just attacking from a high rank is impossible.
So... is there even a point in having a strike?
you can still drop rank easily.
I've been told what at least 1 person did.
he drops rank
uses the rank modifier (he was ~give or take 10 ranks, about 40 ranks higher than the target) and still got a
!!130%!! bonus to attack and raiding.
with his 65k fleets and no mothership he beat 140k fleet defence and a 40 bil ms.
When i got told this i was like WTH. (btw the dude is now about rank 110). he dropped in rank, which i don't care. He was ABOVE the target, and still got a friggin 130% attack boost on him.
IMHO the modifier shouldn't be based on current rank but influence power ONLY.
hmm, that sounds like something out of my attack log...btw i didnt start with 65k fleets, i initially had 110k but gradually sold them as the def got smaller to reduce my repair bill. also, he had lvl 35 def and i have 45 strike, so that along with the 130% is why i was able to raid him...
lol, i just realised that you are the guy i raided...whats with the 3rd person talking? lol
people like hiding under false names, as you and i proove.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:00 am
by nomis_17
urogard wrote:nomis_17 wrote:nomis_17 wrote:urogard wrote:Hells__Angel wrote:I discovered today that raiding or even just attacking from a high rank is impossible.
So... is there even a point in having a strike?
you can still drop rank easily.
I've been told what at least 1 person did.
he drops rank
uses the rank modifier (he was ~give or take 10 ranks, about 40 ranks higher than the target) and still got a
!!130%!! bonus to attack and raiding.
with his 65k fleets and no mothership he beat 140k fleet defence and a 40 bil ms.
When i got told this i was like WTH. (btw the dude is now about rank 110). he dropped in rank, which i don't care. He was ABOVE the target, and still got a friggin 130% attack boost on him.
IMHO the modifier shouldn't be based on current rank but influence power ONLY.
hmm, that sounds like something out of my attack log...btw i didnt start with 65k fleets, i initially had 110k but gradually sold them as the def got smaller to reduce my repair bill. also, he had lvl 35 def and i have 45 strike, so that along with the 130% is why i was able to raid him...
lol, i just realised that you are the guy i raided...whats with the 3rd person talking? lol
people like hiding under false names, as you and i proove.
yeah, i do have a different name is ascended, but i have nomis as my realm name...
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:28 am
by Hensenshi
urogard wrote:people like hiding under false names, as you and i proove.
Mojo Rising was named Shooting Star in ascended for at least 3 months. During such time, he was ranked 1 for a while. I don't see why having a different name is hiding. Hell, I was using Naquitis instead of Hensenshi in main for a while.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:12 pm
by nomis_17
Hensenshi wrote:urogard wrote:people like hiding under false names, as you and i proove.
Mojo Rising was named Shooting Star in ascended for at least 3 months. During such time, he was ranked 1 for a while. I don't see why having a different name is hiding. Hell, I was using Naquitis instead of Hensenshi in main for a while.
especially now that god quest tells all

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:32 pm
by urogard
nomis_17 wrote:especially now that god quest tells all

yea as if a name change was a big deal now

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:35 am
by Aegidius
hey, don't spam the this thread dudes!
I like the idea of reducing the ppl u can raid based in your own size (maybe even influence power). I specially like the endogamic implications of this for the top 50.
Yes, endogamic implications, call me nasty if u want

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:47 am
by ~Phoenix~
If there is a simple answer, lets say, 80% of your army you can raid.
And if you have 80% of another guys army you can raid them.
Simple.
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:50 pm
by Shooting Star
~Phoenix~ wrote:If there is a simple answer, lets say, 80% of your army you can raid.
And if you have 80% of another guys army you can raid them.
Simple.
But wait, to get 80% of the other guy's army, you need to raid them.

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:22 am
by PSICOLIX
Shooting Star wrote:~Phoenix~ wrote:If there is a simple answer, lets say, 80% of your army you can raid.
And if you have 80% of another guys army you can raid them.
Simple.
But wait, to get 80% of the other guy's army, you need to raid them.

lol, 10 Mill army, 20% = 2 mill, 2 mill raided, army = 8 mill, 20% is 1,6 Mill, 1,6 Mill raided = 6,2.... will get to 0
Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:57 am
by Lore
PSICOLIX wrote:Shooting Star wrote:~Phoenix~ wrote:If there is a simple answer, lets say, 80% of your army you can raid.
And if you have 80% of another guys army you can raid them.
Simple.
But wait, to get 80% of the other guy's army, you need to raid them.

lol, 10 Mill army, 20% = 2 mill, 2 mill raided, army = 8 mill, 20% is 1,6 Mill, 1,6 Mill raided = 6,2.... will get to 0
This makes no sense because multiple raiders will do the same thing as now. You need a base line somewhere.
I suggested tieing your "unraidable" army size to your up as it never descresese or changes. if your up is 10K then you can't be raided below 100K planets (just throwing some numbers out). This will still allow raiding and growth (inactives will still be good farms for the lil people) and it will protect people from being raided to nothing.