I'm very surprised that my member who got his UP from 10k raw to 40k raw during this war didn't get accused of cheating...
I bet that if we'd get all of our members to 50k raw UP we'd get accused of cheating, multying and exploiting bugs..
Lan, I couldn't agree with you more...
Also Shooting Star, Jason made this updates on ascension to make it possible for new players on ascension to try and catch up...it is also ur own damn fault that u spent so much reasources with ascending to have ascended account powerfull, don't whine how much u'd have on main if you wouldn't do big ascensions.
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Um,
I think it is a little silly calling someone a cheater because some math don't work out- especially like 5% difference. I know myself I really wouldn't know what the attk limits etc really are and even if I did I would not before during or after sit down and with a fine toothed comb "calculate" to make sure all is accurate. Might do a quick check and say yeah close enough but gees, 5% margin of error lol. I wouldn't een notice most likely and if I did I would put it down to the slight differences in stats/attk results that do occur in this game.
Try nit picking on something else- here's one- I think I got one (just one) more Untrained unit than I should have last turn cause I check exact amounts at every change in the game- really I do lol.
I think it is a little silly calling someone a cheater because some math don't work out- especially like 5% difference. I know myself I really wouldn't know what the attk limits etc really are and even if I did I would not before during or after sit down and with a fine toothed comb "calculate" to make sure all is accurate. Might do a quick check and say yeah close enough but gees, 5% margin of error lol. I wouldn't een notice most likely and if I did I would put it down to the slight differences in stats/attk results that do occur in this game.
Try nit picking on something else- here's one- I think I got one (just one) more Untrained unit than I should have last turn cause I check exact amounts at every change in the game- really I do lol.
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My head
well after reading what i posted, i think I did quite well.
please read my posts carefully,
The first was about making $, because of the way peoples accounts are now, some people are using this to make a lot of money (farming & selling for $) so these people do not want the war to end, just like in R/L with arms dealers.
secondly my other point.
you will notice i did not call anyone a cheater I just pointed out that Robe had said they had worked out that they only lost 10% not 15% as should be the case according to the rules.
I mentioned two people who have been dealt with in the cheaters section.If you want more info, go read.
also when i said about being in the war i meant by making this post it would drag me in, josh has told me to stay out, I was never going to be in, i do not have the time. but if you feel the need to attack me for what i siad. i can not stop you.
(did she report it to admin b4 using)
the place i mention cheater was so anyone reading it thinking they may have been cheating, would know what it was a innocent action.
I would also like to say thankyou to all the players from both sides who put me to peace. There are still some great people out there.
Jeff (S T I)
well after reading what i posted, i think I did quite well.
please read my posts carefully,
The first was about making $, because of the way peoples accounts are now, some people are using this to make a lot of money (farming & selling for $) so these people do not want the war to end, just like in R/L with arms dealers.
secondly my other point.
you will notice i did not call anyone a cheater I just pointed out that Robe had said they had worked out that they only lost 10% not 15% as should be the case according to the rules.
I mentioned two people who have been dealt with in the cheaters section.If you want more info, go read.
also when i said about being in the war i meant by making this post it would drag me in, josh has told me to stay out, I was never going to be in, i do not have the time. but if you feel the need to attack me for what i siad. i can not stop you.
(did she report it to admin b4 using)
the place i mention cheater was so anyone reading it thinking they may have been cheating, would know what it was a innocent action.
I would also like to say thankyou to all the players from both sides who put me to peace. There are still some great people out there.
Jeff (S T I)
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SVaRuN wrote:Yare, yare...is this all necessary...
First thing...perhaps STI isnt funding anyone in this war...but he is giving some naq to:
- omega thats a FACT (let it be charity or whatever...you call it)
- He is also giving you data...(it may not be directly connected with this war ...but giving data about ascension-main ID connection is undirectly...giving you targets etc...)
We have known this for a while...
- STI wasnt attacked since he is really busy in real life and we said...well all this help is miniature and since he is such a good guy lets leave him alone...
All of this is really beyond all civilized talk...
YOU are a cheater....NO I am not...but you are...and here is the proof....CIA/COP is using bugs...etc
PPL!
1. of all cheaters section!
2. of all please players have names and you can call them by it...if you believe someone in the CIA/COP has done something wrong...or no matter even if something good...do not use the expression CIA/COP for gods sake...
3. There is really so much of what ppl say here that could be discussed via MSN and only then brought here...since we keep on seeing..."MISSUNDERSTANDMENTS"
Sorry reborn for those 51 attacks while I was massing you...really didnt do much in compare to the others...my blessing rate was also "amazing" I appologize for having "so many"...
Sorry ppl but this is getting really ridiculous...
WE can come here and start saying: Reborn where did you get:
- 20-25 trills for a MS since the start of this war
- LOADS of trills for your defence
- etc etc I mean reborn you must be a cheater for getting like 50 trills since this war started...
Or we Can use our heads and say...well let me check it out...: aha I see now...they gave him 30k ATs aha he was given loads of naq to...and he also made some naq...aha...ok MUST be IT.
Or better do not bother at all since you are ought to be fighting not playing lawyers who are trying to find the holes in the LAW itself...
More and more acusations: I say bring it to MSN, bring it to admin, bring it to the cheaters section...but please ppl dont flame the entire forum...
I would like to believe there are some like me, who really dont like to read ppl haviing crosses all the time
Sorry for the bother Yane
Thanks for the mention SVaRuN ( see i do get it right sometimes
I don't know where you get the giving naq to Omega, but as for info on ascension, yes i did, you said it was" miniature" indeed it was but this task was talked about way b4 the war started. you failed to mention my activity in the Omega forums apart from this, which did happen awhile ago, so i will tell how much it has been "0"
I am not having a go at you, just making the story straight.
my power in ascension is only exceeded by Mojo & Sinister so like you said what i did do was miniature, but i will repeat myself, it was started way b4 the war,
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Winter Wolf wrote:Lord-RahL wrote:Robe wrote:S T I wrote:in fact, will will tell you more, josh (reborn) lost his first defence because of GREY area used by stoney & Koshesh, which have been reported about in the cheaters section.
now he has lost his defence again, but Robe boasts about how she & others had worked out they only losy 10% by going on vac in ascension when it should have been 15%, ( by the rules put in place by Forum) thus reborn lost his defence again.
I say to all players this has gone far enought, i will join the war knowing i will lose all my defence & ss to stand agianst this. to wimn a wbattle is fair enough but to win it by foul means is no triumph at all, so do your worse..
from a player who respects the rules.
Reborn is losing his defence because he keeps building one - Cause and Effect. It is not personal.
I can understand why you would want to support your RL brothers Reborn and Replijake in the war, its only natural.
Reborn also rebuilt his 3rd defence yesterday (200b), which was removed prior to him going onto PPT.
For the record, I congratulated Reborn for being a good sport on the war thread (where this post really belongs) and via msn. The battle was hard and worth of a post given it was the highest defence even taken in SGW.
Corkscrew is also back in Omega in main - he was attacking CIA on ascended so I guess he never really left.
Welcome to the war Gentleman.
Cheater.... Nothing you say has any merrit now...
RahL
Whatever mate, the lot of you are sore losers. Why don't you cry to gamemod and admin if you haven't already done so and get him to prove it one way or another, instead of mouthing off in here. If she wasn't cheating then it makes you look like idiots, like the issue with KGC's brother when teal'auc and bazsy and others went off without knowing the facts. If she is proved to have cheated then you can come on here and say stuff like that.
Am I hearing right?
You calling me an idiot? That will have consequences...
First of all... I still think KGC's brother's massing was uncalled for... and dirty...
why?
You guys calling for an end to cross server revenges... yet you mass a guy who stating he is alpha ONLY on ascended. Isnt that cross server? (not to mention he isn't wearing the official Alpha tag in ascention)
The reason that I didn't argued in that topic further was to avoid namecalling and flaming again...
You guys knew the best that the guy had no part in the war.... thats why you didn't mass him for ONE MONTH.
Also, ask some CIA leaders or such about me and Teal'auc...
Because it clearly shows that you are NOT PART of this COMMUNITY... You only come to this forums to flame, and insult others.
You have no honor...
Calling ppl an idiot just made you disrespectfull towards fellow players.
PPL like YOU are the ONES who DESTROY this community.... Be it on any side...
Dont bother answering me, I won't even read...

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Bazsy wrote:Am I hearing right?
You calling me an idiot? That will have consequences...
First of all... I still think KGC's brother's massing was uncalled for... and dirty...
why?
You guys calling for an end to cross server revenges... yet you mass a guy who stating he is alpha ONLY on ascended. Isnt that cross server? (not to mention he isn't wearing the official Alpha tag in ascention)
The reason that I didn't argued in that topic further was to avoid namecalling and flaming again...
You guys knew the best that the guy had no part in the war.... thats why you didn't mass him for ONE MONTH.
Also, ask some CIA leaders or such about me and Teal'auc...
Because it clearly shows that you are NOT PART of this COMMUNITY... You only come to this forums to flame, and insult others.
You have no honor...
Calling ppl an idiot just made you disrespectfull towards fellow players.
PPL like YOU are the ONES who DESTROY this community.... Be it on any side...
Dont bother answering me, I won't even read...
Sorry m8 that I need to correct you, but CoP was the first who claimed Ascension and main are linked and they started to mass ppl there, then we responded...and I totally agree with smoosh when he said that you can't be in Alpha for one secod and out of it for the other second...he raided CIA members on ascension aswell m8
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Bazsy wrote:Am I hearing right?
You calling me an idiot? That will have consequences...
Talk about asking for a flame war.
Winter Wolf wrote:If she wasn't cheating then it makes you look like idiots
He said it would make you (i.e. the accusers, not aimed at any specific group) look like idiots if Robe wasn't actually cheating.
[EDIT] Oh, and for the record, the only anti-community group around here is CoP.
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Neimenljivi wrote:Bazsy wrote:Am I hearing right?
You calling me an idiot? That will have consequences...
First of all... I still think KGC's brother's massing was uncalled for... and dirty...
why?
You guys calling for an end to cross server revenges... yet you mass a guy who stating he is alpha ONLY on ascended. Isnt that cross server? (not to mention he isn't wearing the official Alpha tag in ascention)
The reason that I didn't argued in that topic further was to avoid namecalling and flaming again...
You guys knew the best that the guy had no part in the war.... thats why you didn't mass him for ONE MONTH.
Also, ask some CIA leaders or such about me and Teal'auc...
Because it clearly shows that you are NOT PART of this COMMUNITY... You only come to this forums to flame, and insult others.
You have no honor...
Calling ppl an idiot just made you disrespectfull towards fellow players.
PPL like YOU are the ONES who DESTROY this community.... Be it on any side...
Dont bother answering me, I won't even read...
Sorry m8 that I need to correct you, but CoP was the first who claimed Ascension and main are linked and they started to mass ppl there, then we responded...and I totally agree with smoosh when he said that you can't be in Alpha for one secod and out of it for the other second...he raided CIA members on ascension aswell m8![]()
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Than look at what you demand in the end of the war thread:
No cross server....
And you just set up the good example?:)
And you ask more diplomaxy too? How about if you guys were asking first, like you want cop to do after the war?
Im more like upset about the other part.

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|ninja| wrote:Bazsy wrote:Am I hearing right?
You calling me an idiot? That will have consequences...
Talk about asking for a flame war.Winter Wolf wrote:If she wasn't cheating then it makes you look like idiots
He said it would make you (i.e. the accusers, not aimed at any specific group) look like idiots if Robe wasn't actually cheating.
[EDIT] Oh, and for the record, the only anti-community group around here is CoP.
Winter Wolf wrote:If she wasn't cheating then it makes you look like idiots, like the issue with KGC's brother when teal'auc and bazsy and others went off without knowing the facts
Guess its quite clear that he said Lord Rahl would be an idiot like me or Teal'auc....

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|ninja| wrote:Bazsy wrote:Guess its quite clear that he said Lord Rahl would be an idiot like me or Teal'auc....
Okay, if you want to make a big issue out of something, that clearly isn't, be my guest =)
I'm sure that if I called you an idiot, that would be a big issue... but viewpoint my friend...
I don't want to make a big deal, but I'm not used to be called on names...
And I'm sure CIA don't want to start in this way down...
Yet again a newbie insulting a long time player and this is a common issue we have to deal with....

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S T I wrote:SVaRuN wrote:Yare, yare...is this all necessary...
First thing...perhaps STI isnt funding anyone in this war...but he is giving some naq to:
- omega thats a FACT (let it be charity or whatever...you call it)
- He is also giving you data...(it may not be directly connected with this war ...but giving data about ascension-main ID connection is undirectly...giving you targets etc...)
We have known this for a while...
- STI wasnt attacked since he is really busy in real life and we said...well all this help is miniature and since he is such a good guy lets leave him alone...
All of this is really beyond all civilized talk...
YOU are a cheater....NO I am not...but you are...and here is the proof....CIA/COP is using bugs...etc
PPL!
1. of all cheaters section!
2. of all please players have names and you can call them by it...if you believe someone in the CIA/COP has done something wrong...or no matter even if something good...do not use the expression CIA/COP for gods sake...
3. There is really so much of what ppl say here that could be discussed via MSN and only then brought here...since we keep on seeing..."MISSUNDERSTANDMENTS"
Sorry reborn for those 51 attacks while I was massing you...really didnt do much in compare to the others...my blessing rate was also "amazing" I appologize for having "so many"...
Sorry ppl but this is getting really ridiculous...
WE can come here and start saying: Reborn where did you get:
- 20-25 trills for a MS since the start of this war
- LOADS of trills for your defence
- etc etc I mean reborn you must be a cheater for getting like 50 trills since this war started...
Or we Can use our heads and say...well let me check it out...: aha I see now...they gave him 30k ATs aha he was given loads of naq to...and he also made some naq...aha...ok MUST be IT.
Or better do not bother at all since you are ought to be fighting not playing lawyers who are trying to find the holes in the LAW itself...
More and more acusations: I say bring it to MSN, bring it to admin, bring it to the cheaters section...but please ppl dont flame the entire forum...
I would like to believe there are some like me, who really dont like to read ppl haviing crosses all the time
Sorry for the bother Yane
Thanks for the mention SVaRuN ( see i do get it right sometimes)
I don't know where you get the giving naq to Omega, but as for info on ascension, yes i did, you said it was" miniature" indeed it was but this task was talked about way b4 the war started. you failed to mention my activity in the Omega forums apart from this, which did happen awhile ago, so i will tell how much it has been "0"
I am not having a go at you, just making the story straight.
my power in ascension is only exceeded by Mojo & Sinister so like you said what i did do was miniature, but i will repeat myself, it was started way b4 the war,
Jeff (S T I)
I know S T I... it was started before war but in a way it is still giving info to the omega...anyways miniature yeah...
The naq thing is similar....and also not even worth of being mention...(the program you have...each week thingy)
Thanks for getting my name right
I ll now back off from this thread and I appologize if any of my two posts in it caused flaming or whatever...
Yane

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First a question: would it be possibel to only quote some parts and not allways whole long posts?
That said. Abusing the vacation mode in ascended is a long known way to circumwent the rules. I say its cheating other people find its ok since the game mechanics allow it.
I still believe that Forum should make a final decission about this matter but we all wont get further than a flame war bye discussion such matters over and over again.
Keep it fair dont try to circumwent rules bye game mechanics and have fun
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That said. Abusing the vacation mode in ascended is a long known way to circumwent the rules. I say its cheating other people find its ok since the game mechanics allow it.
I still believe that Forum should make a final decission about this matter but we all wont get further than a flame war bye discussion such matters over and over again.
Keep it fair dont try to circumwent rules bye game mechanics and have fun
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Bazsy wrote:Neimenljivi wrote:Sorry m8 that I need to correct you, but CoP was the first who claimed Ascension and main are linked and they started to mass ppl there, then we responded...and I totally agree with smoosh when he said that you can't be in Alpha for one secod and out of it for the other second...he raided CIA members on ascension aswell m8![]()
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Than look at what you demand in the end of the war thread:
No cross server....
And you just set up the good example?:)
And you ask more diplomaxy too? How about if you guys were asking first, like you want cop to do after the war?
Im more like upset about the other part.
I said stop cross-servering and smoosh clearly wrote that what happens in quantum or chaos should stay there, it was meant cross server massings on quantum and chaos messing with main should stop...also other games like MEW and others similiar with main SGW should stop...
Cause some particular players (won't go to name calling but I think most of you know who I am pointing on) get attacked on let's say quantum and start threatning to the one who attacked him/her that he/she will get massed on main and every other servers they both play...or when wars from chaos spread into main and quantum and asceded, or when massing on quantum became war on main...this is what I think that needs to stop
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These are the facts..if u are on vacation mode in ascension and have ascended 6 times..your stats SHOULD be 15 percent of base instead of the usual 30..if it is 20 percent..as u stated you only lost 10 percent, then it is a bug..and SHOULD have been reported.
Secondly, I would like to see Koskesh and Stoney come on here and apologise for EXPLOITING a bug, which they were found GUILTY of.
I am seriously considering ordering Omegans to never report bugs, and if any one of you get screwed over..so be it! I am sick and **Filtered** tired having to go out of my way to report bugs that the users should have had the conscience to do so, in this and many other past battles. And I'm sure Jake, who usually helps with this feels the same.
In fact from now on, anyone who is not in CoP has a problem with their account, don't come to me to intervene cos I couldn't give a **Filtered** **Filtered**..if ur hacked for a month before getting a reply, so be it! I'm not wasting my time helping ungrateful people, who do **Filtered** all about the cheats, bug exploiters and scammers on here and yet have the cheek to talk **Filtered** about the people that do. Which of you **Filtered** actually put your accounts on the line to take out cheats? The answer is only Omegans have consistently gone out of their way to do so.
Secondly, I would like to see Koskesh and Stoney come on here and apologise for EXPLOITING a bug, which they were found GUILTY of.
I am seriously considering ordering Omegans to never report bugs, and if any one of you get screwed over..so be it! I am sick and **Filtered** tired having to go out of my way to report bugs that the users should have had the conscience to do so, in this and many other past battles. And I'm sure Jake, who usually helps with this feels the same.
In fact from now on, anyone who is not in CoP has a problem with their account, don't come to me to intervene cos I couldn't give a **Filtered** **Filtered**..if ur hacked for a month before getting a reply, so be it! I'm not wasting my time helping ungrateful people, who do **Filtered** all about the cheats, bug exploiters and scammers on here and yet have the cheek to talk **Filtered** about the people that do. Which of you **Filtered** actually put your accounts on the line to take out cheats? The answer is only Omegans have consistently gone out of their way to do so.

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