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Tok`ra wrote:14bil is a massable planet def. During the CoP/CIA war many larger defs fell.

Planet defs stay cheaper for longer, whereas fleets cost more and more via hanger capacity.


Get planet def to around 30+bil and few people can take them.

A 30bil defense on a planet is nothing I have not touched my fleets since you massed them and it was nothing for me then. They are not even worth it unless you can build something a lot higher than 30 bil.

Don Lewis wrote:yeah, well i like UP planets.

Compared to Raw which from 25k takes 122 days to pay off any naq you plough into it, whereaes a similar upgrade on a planet take approx 30 days to pay off depending on the amount of defence you decide upon.

So the main factor to consider is can you hold an up planet for 30 days or not??? This is a good rough guide for small level up planets, i.e. 5k with 3-5bill defences.

Planets are also good if you are ascending as you dont lose them.

Raw UP takes 67 day exactly to pay off if you put every unit that comes from it into miners.

They are only really worth it if you take them as far as Legoless did.

Not always depends what are the stats on them and the defence that you put on them.

Hensenshi wrote:

Don Lewis wrote:yeah, well i like UP planets.

Compared to Raw which from 25k takes 122 days to pay off any naq you plough into it, whereaes a similar upgrade on a planet take approx 30 days to pay off depending on the amount of defence you decide upon.

So the main factor to consider is can you hold an up planet for 30 days or not??? This is a good rough guide for small level up planets, i.e. 5k with 3-5bill defences.

Planets are also good if you are ascending as you dont lose them.

Raw UP takes 67 day exactly to pay off if you put every unit that comes from it into miners.

Weird, my calcs were, naq used transfered into UU at rate of 600:1, then calculate the time it takes for the extra UP to generate this UU.

Even if its a short as 67 days, dont think it is or i would have sold my army and ploughed it into UP by now, it is still slower than using planets.

And i find it far more effective to simply buy UU with any naq that would be used to buy more UP, faster and the income boost is just the same as the UP boost, i think UP is only important at the <10mill stage and >50mill stage, between that income alone should get you up to the 50 mill barrier pretty fast.

Lore wrote:Planets are the worst addition to the game since I started playing. They have caused the most hateful wars and conflicts and do not help anyone out long term as the are all defeatable. There is no "Safe" planet defense. They have also done nothing more then make strong players stronger. Just my opinion.

Agreed, they have caused quite a lot of problems and aren't really worth the investment. Don Lewis was right as well, buying UU is a much better investment. I've found that accounts tend to grow exponentially once you get a decent miner count, which allows you to invest in more important attributes such as covert levels and anticovert levels more readily. And yes I know, I said invest a few too many times .

Planets are ok if you get one defend it and do all that stuff then go and get another one.

Indeed, once at 10 mill miners it is easy to keep growing. During peace times, i generally spend 50-75% of my naq on extra UU.

Thats around 2-3 days worth of income, not much but makes me grow as fast as any other method i know of other than raiding etc.

UU

I only know of one person in the game atm with unbeatable defences on planets

probly more peeps i just aint herd of them

Don Lewis wrote:Indeed, once at 10 mill miners it is easy to keep growing. During peace times, i generally spend 50-75% of my naq on extra UU.

Thats around 2-3 days worth of income, not much but makes me grow as fast as any other method i know of other than raiding etc.

I never had a raw UP above 7 k until I hit 55 million army. Even then, it still sucks

Munchy wrote:

Don Lewis wrote:Indeed, once at 10 mill miners it is easy to keep growing. During peace times, i generally spend 50-75% of my naq on extra UU.

Thats around 2-3 days worth of income, not much but makes me grow as fast as any other method i know of other than raiding etc.

I never had a raw UP above 7 k until I hit 55 million army. Even then, it still sucks

I couldnt agree more, only once over 50 mill does it become usefull, even then with good strategy you can get to 75 mill very fast also.

All my planets havent been touched since I got them, no upgrades or defences. Yet nobody steals them... The reason why? The only people that would take them already have 10 planets!

Angel_F1re wrote:All my planets havent been touched since I got them, no upgrades or defences. Yet nobody steals them... The reason why? The only people that would take them already have 10 planets!

Or your planets suck.

Angel_F1re wrote:All my planets havent been touched since I got them, no upgrades or defences. Yet nobody steals them... The reason why? The only people that would take them already have 10 planets!

Get thee behind me Satan...