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PSICOLIX wrote:this thing again...

how about make vocations players have 0 bonus.
1 week without log in put you in auto vocation.

that way we force every1 to log once a week, well thats what i call activity

EXELLENT IDEA!


I say do the same in main too.

Tok`ra wrote:

PSICOLIX wrote:this thing again...

how about make vocations players have 0 bonus.
1 week without log in put you in auto vocation.

that way we force every1 to log once a week, well thats what i call activity

EXELLENT IDEA!


I say do the same in main too.

hmm ... what will happen to raiding then

madcat wrote:and what about those who got to ascention planning on playing the server ....... then realised it sucks ass?? there aint no try before u buy into it ...... so its a risk, and one that was a massive dissapointment i feel!!

not everyone likes the server ....... i have an account in chaos, but dont play it!! does this mean i am abusing a bug and should have my account removed?? no way!!

i dont like ascention ........ it bores me, the backgrounds are TERRIBLE and the style of play doesnt appeal at all!!

u say people can catch up?? lmao, u could ascend with 10trill naq +30 mill uu and still need another 3x that to get remotely close to the medium/large players up there!! annnnnnd ..... if u did do that, someone would raid u as soon as u got above 2 mill planets anyways lol!!

UR OPINION is that this is a bug, my OPINION is

A) i dont have time for 2 servers and shouldnt be made to suffer in main because i refuse to play another server.
B) make ascention server fun .... and i'd have given it more of a shot
C) this topic is kinda pathetic

if ascention is made so that u HAVE to play it ....... then main will either stagnate and die, or will need some sever changes to even out the playing field ........ because an LG vs and unascended race, aint even a battle its a massacre, their weps die faster, u need more trained troops, their bonuses suck ......... need i go on?

doesnt admin strive to make this game fair to all? not everyone is at school/college etc, with plenty of time on their hands to play 2 servers. Those who play main only, shouldnt be peanilised for such things!

here is some very good points, but everyone needs to look at it from both sides of the coin, i will try to explain

Quote Madcat

(and what about those who got to ascention planning on playing the server ....... then realised it sucks ass?? there aint no try before u buy into it ...... so its a risk, and one that was a massive dissapointment i feel!!
)

when i first ascended, i throught the same, but the more you play it the better it gets, it speeds up loads

Quote Madcat

(not everyone likes the server ....... i have an account in chaos, but dont play it!! does this mean i am abusing a bug and should have my account removed?? no way!!)

I never even touched Choas yuk, but i did play quantum in te first wave as a loan wolf & finished fifth ( yep not bad against those bad assed Omega swines

) but yes it is not a bug or abusing one.

Quote Madcat
(i dont like ascention ........ it bores me, the backgrounds are TERRIBLE and the style of play doesnt appeal at all!! )

This is your choice, but when you get to my point it may change.

Quote Madcat
(u say people can catch up?? lmao, u could ascend with 10trill naq +30 mill uu and still need another 3x that to get remotely close to the medium/large players up there!! annnnnnd ..... if u did do that, someone would raid u as soon as u got above 2 mill planets anyways lol!!)

This is totally incorrect. Fact, the 3 most powerfull player on ascension & i mean by a mile are 3 players who have done the least ascensions, top two less than the third) & i can prove it.

I also know a person who ascended 1 month ago, but with knowledge of what to do & is over 300 planets now.They had a army size of under 10 mil. yes you are quite right about the 2 mill planets & getting raided, but again you will see why when i get to the point. (its coming)

Quote Madcat
(UR OPINION is that this is a bug, my OPINION is

A) i dont have time for 2 servers and shouldnt be made to suffer in main because i refuse to play another server.
B) make ascention server fun .... and i'd have given it more of a shot
C) this topic is kinda pathetic )

A)I could argue that you should not have ascended then, why should you ascend & get benifits on one server yet not play the other ( you answered this yourself)
B) Time was all you needed to give it IMO
C) No comment

Quote Madcat
(if ascention is made so that u HAVE to play it ....... then main will either stagnate and die, or will need some sever changes to even out the playing field ........ because an LG vs and unascended race, aint even a battle its a massacre, their weps die faster, u need more trained troops, their bonuses suck ......... need i go on?)

Now here comes my point & I ask all to read this with a open mind & think about what i have said already.

When ascension started people rushed to ascend, many did many quick ascensions, just to get the bonuses, this has carried on, some of us never rushed

I have read about how great people were for doing quick ascensions
it has been said that COP has ruined ascension because they dominate it, yep your quite correct

now here it is,

all the players who ascended to just get bonus, left a great big hole, the ones out there who were non COP or you can go back b4 COP to further see the problem. were left in a impossible posistion.

They were left with no protection, numbers should have been all they needed until they grew, but there was very little, add to this, everytime a non COP member got raided it made it worse for the rest

can you see that it was not COP which was the problem but the lack of targets, COP players were only playing the server.

Now it has been suggested that people should be forced to play ascension, yes it should have happened long ago, but it has not been put very well & has just caused people to Flame.

Madcat you made the point why should you suffer on one server because you don't want to play another. so like i said why should you Gain for the same reasons.

all i ask is for people to ask the same question.

It is not a Bug But the server is being exploited & the people who have suffered the most are the non COP members who got caught in the middle.

Jeff ( S T I)

PSICOLIX wrote:this thing again...

how about make vocations players have 0 bonus.
1 week without log in put you in auto vocation.

that way we force every1 to log once a week, well thats what i call activity

i'm not even ascended, and i could deal with that... i suppose.

don't know how you'd get people to do more than login, but i could deal with it.

Lord Mato wrote:

Tok`ra wrote:

PSICOLIX wrote:this thing again...

how about make vocations players have 0 bonus.
1 week without log in put you in auto vocation.

that way we force every1 to log once a week, well thats what i call activity

EXELLENT IDEA!


I say do the same in main too.

hmm ... what will happen to raiding then

that might present a problem the people who want to rebalance everything, change everything.

at some point, you gotta say this is a game i like, and i will continue to invest my time and energy into it;
or this game isn't worth it anymore, and i will find another way to spend my time,
and if that other way is simply a different game, well then so be it.

I dont wanna quote STI.....

But he kinda gets the point, whenever non CoP gets to the top, they get knocked down and raided to the point that it decimates their account, because CoP have lack of targets, they cant farm each other, so it creates imbalances, it relates to main I guess, the farming so much because they have no other targets, some non CoP get irritated because they feel their getting singled out and bothered so much. Soooo guess what happened, war. Some fight for balancing the game.

Oh and the acsended server is not balanced really, I mean can someone tell me what is the Rank 1 defence in there is? Now tell me what is the rank 1 attack.....I heard there was this biiiiiig gap......

The gap is large.

I think both side of this argument have been well stated in the same sentence here.
"whenever non CoP gets to the top, they get knocked down and raided to the point that it decimates their account, because CoP have lack of targets, they cant farm each other, so it creates imbalance"



The question is what can be done to fix it? I personally think the game is too far gone to fix but something has got to give.

Disband CoP

Well atleast make ascention a seperate game, or respect the rules and make it a free for all where you can attack whoever the hell you want, its the only way I could think of right now. Or leave it as it is and enjoy playing a game were there isnt any competition or even anybody to attack lol

Suggestions anyone?

Boooby wrote:Disband CoP

Well atleast make ascention a seperate game, or respect the rules and make it a free for all where you can attack whoever the hell you want, its the only way I could think of right now. Or leave it as it is and enjoy playing a game were there isnt any competition or even anybody to attack lol

Suggestions anyone?

Make assencion server not affect main prehaps ?

The server sucks, period.

Tok`ra wrote:

Boooby wrote:Disband CoP

Well atleast make ascention a seperate game, or respect the rules and make it a free for all where you can attack whoever the hell you want, its the only way I could think of right now. Or leave it as it is and enjoy playing a game were there isnt any competition or even anybody to attack lol

Suggestions anyone?

Make assencion server not affect main prehaps ?

The server sucks, period.

I have said it & I will say it again COP is not the problem,

in fact that could be the worst thing to happen.

But to get back to the problem, people have been saying about in war you should be able to loose everything on main to end a war.

But on ascension server you can (but not your Bonuses) now here is the problem & it has spilled over into main.

As far as i can see the simple answer is this if you are on Vacation mode you lose all bonuses. If you are deasended you drop down one bonus ie LG to the one below & so on. but still keep in what it does so people can rebuild in ascesion. This would make people think twice b4 doing stuff & make ascension more enjoyable with more people playing & having a reason to play

The problem is that people whine for an update to make things easier, then realize that in the end it comes down to the WORK you put into the game.

So of coure they WHINE for m04r updates to 'balance' the last udpates.

Yes it does come down to how much time u put on the account, but whenever you get up there with pure hard work, and get knocked down in a few secs, because some people have ''lack of targets'' taht they will eat you alive in there, I mean come on, is that really enjoyable? why cant we play a free for all in that server as it was intended? I mean you cant make alliances there right? so why cant you attack someone who is allied to you in main?

Why cant we just ascend to get the bonuses and have the choice of not playing that server? we paid the price with G&R points and UUs + naq by ascending....

Boooby wrote:
Why cant we just ascend to get the bonuses and have the choice of not playing that server? we paid the price with G&R points and UUs + naq by ascending....

Ok how about this for an idea? everyone can ascend to LG+1 and get the bonuses and not have to play ascended and have "untouchable" ascended accounts. Those who do play ascended can continue playing ascended and ascending more and getting more bonuses that the "unwilling" dont get since they dont play ascended?

presently its what 39% bonus max at a AG?

let the actual players of ascended go to 50% by doing more ascentions and actually building ascended accounts.

S T I wrote:but still keep in what it does so people can rebuild in ascesion

i didnt keep a defense more than 2 week since 6 months. ask ETL, Cork, Lrdofwar and many other.

for me, the only rule who is a no sense is the labour raiding. U can make 10 ascensions, one high cop will reduce yor def to 0 and all other lower will come raid u.

maybe this rule have to be changed, and add something like u cant attack someone with a influence power more than 10% different of your. i really think those two rules could balance the game and give back some interest for non cop players