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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:08 am
by traprunner
Hells__Angel wrote:Your not forced, but the main point of ascending was to unlock the server I thought?

Maybe admin was too generous giving out a 30% bonus so lightly.


Since the two are now linked then people are forced. Before they were linked people had a choice.


Lore wrote:
traprunner wrote:When a large number of us joined the game there was no mention of being forced to play another game. That game (ascension) was not even heard of. So why should we be forced to play it now??


When did you join? I was always aware of the ascended server and its link to main. It did take better then 6 months to find out about deascention tho.


I am not sure as I am on my second account.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:10 am
by Tok`ra
Lore wrote:
traprunner wrote:When a large number of us joined the game there was no mention of being forced to play another game. That game (ascension) was not even heard of. So why should we be forced to play it now??


When did you join? I was always aware of the ascended server and its link to main. It did take better then 6 months to find out about deascention tho.



Decension took well over a year from its first mention of 'upcoming' by fourm to actualy be implemented, in this time, people saw people ascending, and also wanted to do so for the bonus on main.

The fact is that the assencion server is pretty craptacular as a game.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:11 am
by Cole
Lore wrote:
traprunner wrote:When a large number of us joined the game there was no mention of being forced to play another game. That game (ascension) was not even heard of. So why should we be forced to play it now??


When did you join? I was always aware of the ascended server and its link to main. It did take better then 6 months to find out about deascention tho.

Ascension came in end of 2005...so maybe he's from first era :P
We were even able to kill uu, untrained mercs gave income and there was no miners, Motherships, ascension, planets, anticovert. Covert powers were more decent, now they are small, believe me!

Anti Covert Action : 4,187,593,113,600,000
That would be powers with level 31 AC and 5mil assassins for a LG+0 if things did not changed!

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:16 am
by Tok`ra
Apophis The Great wrote:
Lore wrote:
traprunner wrote:When a large number of us joined the game there was no mention of being forced to play another game. That game (ascension) was not even heard of. So why should we be forced to play it now??


When did you join? I was always aware of the ascended server and its link to main. It did take better then 6 months to find out about deascention tho.

Ascension came in end of 2005...so maybe he's from first era :P
We were even able to kill uu, untrained mercs gave income and there was no miners, Motherships, ascension, planets, anticovert. Covert powers were more decent, now they are small, believe me!

Anti Covert Action : 4,187,593,113,600,000
That would be powers with level 31 AC and 5mil assassins for a LG+0 if things did not changed!



Indeed, the covert system used to be such that your covert level matterd a LOT more.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:17 am
by BELISKNER
From the time is was created to now it has ALWAYS been tied with main, saying you are being forced to play it is silly.

If you do not want to play it because you are being 'forced' to then maybe there should be an option to delete your Ascension account loosing all your bonuses in main and good weapons?

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:21 am
by Tok`ra
Why cant I just play Q and get a bonus in main ?

Same principle.


the fact is main is fun, assencion SUCKS.

When you can have your account stripped of the ability to produce anything, the server simply sucks, because smaller people are simply raid farms.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:22 am
by Munchy
Tok`ra wrote:
Lore wrote:
traprunner wrote:When a large number of us joined the game there was no mention of being forced to play another game. That game (ascension) was not even heard of. So why should we be forced to play it now??


When did you join? I was always aware of the ascended server and its link to main. It did take better then 6 months to find out about deascention tho.



Decension took well over a year from its first mention of 'upcoming' by fourm to actualy be implemented, in this time, people saw people ascending, and also wanted to do so for the bonus on main.

The fact is that the assencion server is pretty craptacular as a game.


I agree. That is the main reason the server is semi-dead now, and is dying faster than ever. If Forum had introduced descension the day the server came out, then people would have never done quick ascensions(myself included). How to fix the damage of the massive delay..I have no idea.

It is so completely impossible to catch up over there though that I really have no motivation to play it again. I played it for 7-8 months actively, but it didn't do me much good, lol.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:23 am
by Nigatsu_Aka
Tok`ra wrote:Why cant I just play Q and get a bonus in main ?


Because on Q you can`t ascend and it doesn`t have ascended races.
Q resets every 3 months, Ascention and Main never reset.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:30 am
by BELISKNER
I highly agree little people need to be motivated in Ascension but no one was forced to play but that is not the point.

make some suggestions on how you all think it can be changed to make you want to play again.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:37 am
by traprunner
BELISKNER wrote:make some suggestions on how you all think it can be changed to make you want to play again.


SGW is time consuming enough and therefore many don't have time to play both due to other commitments. They should never have been tied apart from qualifying to play ascension by ascending on main making it a goal.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:38 am
by Raven
BELISKNER wrote:I highly agree little people need to be motivated in Ascension but no one was forced to play but that is not the point.

make some suggestions on how you all think it can be changed to make you want to play again.


admin should have limited planets to 20mill total like he limitted main now its already a hopeless case...

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:41 am
by BELISKNER
Can you all make suggestions instead of winging about giving up and you are too far behind.

I have been to war with Omega/DD everyone virtually, Mojo and Gen Lucky and that and my account was. . .well crap and a few months back I did a huge ascension and worked my way back up the ladder and now I am nearly in the top 10 for influence.

Basically one good Ascension can put you back in there, two or three would put you even further so that combined with your suggestions means you can all catch up, put the damn work in!

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:44 am
by Raven
BELISKNER wrote:Can you all make suggestions instead of winging about giving up and you are too far behind.

I have been to war with Omega/DD everyone virtually, Mojo and Gen Lucky and that and my account was. . .well crap and a few months back I did a huge ascension and worked my way back up the ladder and now I am nearly in the top 10 for influence.

Basically one good Ascension can put you back in there, two or three would put you even further so that combined with your suggestions means you can all catch up, put the damn work in!



Mojo Rising and sinister their asc account makes a virtual ascension every day of millions of APP worth your DD so stop trying to let people know they can catch up if you werent DD you would have more then 1mill planets right now .....

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:49 am
by BELISKNER
Raven wrote:
BELISKNER wrote:Can you all make suggestions instead of winging about giving up and you are too far behind.

I have been to war with Omega/DD everyone virtually, Mojo and Gen Lucky and that and my account was. . .well crap and a few months back I did a huge ascension and worked my way back up the ladder and now I am nearly in the top 10 for influence.

Basically one good Ascension can put you back in there, two or three would put you even further so that combined with your suggestions means you can all catch up, put the damn work in!



Mojo Rising and sinister their asc account makes a virtual ascension every day of millions of APP worth your DD so stop trying to let people know they can catch up if you werent DD you would have more then 1mill planets right now .....


Stop comparing to Mojo and Sinister, you will never be the best in Ascension and neither will I, that doesn't stop you playing main the fact you will never be the top there.

If I was in your shoes I'd be making suggestions so that I could do a huge Ascension and their would be things in place to protect me until I get to a size where I can fight back but no you compare everything to Mojo and Sinister.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:50 am
by Cole
I agree if I ascend right now...I'll get quite alot APP :lol: even if my stats look crap!
I forgot what main ascended points ratio is in conversion for ascended server life force?
I have also an idea...what about limiting life force to 1mil maxi held. Those with more than that will have it decrease slowly, so they should use it before it falls to 999,999 LF.
Or even drastic thing is, army sizes limited to 25mil planets after you cant raid like in main for 100mil, those with over 25mil planets will get -25% of their UP, those above 50mil -50%, those above 75mil -75% and finally above 100mil get 0 UP and cant raid. If there are ppl above 50mil...