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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 1:26 am
by ARC_trooper
meh, cant attack either :shock:

i just hope Admin wil solve this asap :wink:

we still love you!! :P

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 1:38 am
by Hatchery
Hmmm...
I understand that Admins are only ppl.
But last days i see more than once technical problem..
If they receive money for all banners we are clicking/loading, then we have the rights to demand more profesional treatment us as customers.
It is a bussines..And the owner must hire ppl that knows what are they doing..
If s1 is testing an update on test server and after that something is wrong that means that he don't know much about such project like PHP and MYSQL. It is only a computer and a code.. It makes that what they have written..
So this time i await that we receive so long PPT how this update problem is bothering normal play..

Last time they didn't gave PPT what in my opinion is having customers in deep black hole.

Greetings
Pepl

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 1:40 am
by Anarchy_
Pepl wrote:Hmmm...
I understand that Admins are only ppl.
But last days i see more than once technical problem..
If they receive money for all banners we are clicking/loading, then we have the rights to demand more profesional treatment us as customers.
It is a bussines..And the owner must hire ppl that knows what are they doing..
If s1 is testing an update on test server and after that something is wrong that means that he don't know much about such project like PHP and MYSQL. It is only a computer and a code.. It makes that what they have written..
So this time i await that we receive so long PPT how this update problem is bothering normal play..

Last time they didn't gave PPT what in my opinion is having customers in deep black hole.

Greetings
Pepl


Terms of service wrote:By playing, you agree to the following terms:

StarGateWars_Main comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law. The game or its owners or operators may not be held responsible for any disruption of service, loss of data, game play malfunction, or other events or conditions that are undesirable to the user, under any circumstances. There are no guarantees of the quality or consistency of service and is under no obligation to deliver such service.

The game reserves the right to ban, suspend, delete, or modify accounts at any time for any or no reason.


while it would be good if they did get everything right quickly, they actually are under no obligation to do so... even if we have paid $$$ to the game

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 1:47 am
by Lord Silent Bob
Pepl wrote:Hmmm...
I understand that Admins are only ppl.
But last days i see more than once technical problem..
If they receive money for all banners we are clicking/loading, then we have the rights to demand more profesional treatment us as customers.
It is a bussines..And the owner must hire ppl that knows what are they doing..
If s1 is testing an update on test server and after that something is wrong that means that he don't know much about such project like PHP and MYSQL. It is only a computer and a code.. It makes that what they have written..
So this time i await that we receive so long PPT how this update problem is bothering normal play..

Last time they didn't gave PPT what in my opinion is having customers in deep black hole.

Greetings
Pepl


Ok first...this isn't a discussion thread. It's for reporting of Bugs....this one has now been reported by over 100 people in 4-5 different threads. do we know about the bug? I think so.

Second. This game is free to play....we are not paying customers. we may donate towards the costs of hosting and bandwidth usage but there is no warranty express or implied in the user agreement you consented to when you opened your account (if you even read it)

this particular bug has only caused an inconvenience which does not require a PPT....in the event that it did that decision is made solely at Admins discretion.

For those of you that don't agree with the way Jason wants to run his game (yes it's his...he owns it!!) there is a simple solution.

Edit: For the legal buffs out there (and Pepl) you should know that the user agreement is a legally binding contract universally recognized by and upheld by international intelectual property law. (the PRC being the one exception)

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 1:58 am
by Hatchery
I almost agree with both of you..
But we ARE customers ( he receive money from us! by ours computers, we are generating a profits by ours networks ) and service provided by owner of this site is still a service. So he can wrote what he want.. The LAW is LAW.. In EU court have decided about similiar case.. And that what owner wrote was only for him.. He has a company that provides a services and he will be payed for that so standard must be holded!

Sorry for starting this, that was my last post..
I will not be spamming anymore..

Greetings
Pepl

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 2:03 am
by Midnight
SATAN_666 wrote:
Pepl wrote:Hmmm...
I understand that Admins are only ppl.
But last days i see more than once technical problem..
If they receive money for all banners we are clicking/loading, then we have the rights to demand more profesional treatment us as customers.
It is a bussines..And the owner must hire ppl that knows what are they doing..
If s1 is testing an update on test server and after that something is wrong that means that he don't know much about such project like PHP and MYSQL. It is only a computer and a code.. It makes that what they have written..
So this time i await that we receive so long PPT how this update problem is bothering normal play..

Last time they didn't gave PPT what in my opinion is having customers in deep black hole.

Greetings
Pepl


Terms of service wrote:By playing, you agree to the following terms:

StarGateWars_Main comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law. The game or its owners or operators may not be held responsible for any disruption of service, loss of data, game play malfunction, or other events or conditions that are undesirable to the user, under any circumstances. There are no guarantees of the quality or consistency of service and is under no obligation to deliver such service.

The game reserves the right to ban, suspend, delete, or modify accounts at any time for any or no reason.


while it would be good if they did get everything right quickly, they actually are under no obligation to do so... even if we have paid $$$ to the game


Major Silent Bob wrote:
Pepl wrote:Hmmm...
I understand that Admins are only ppl.
But last days i see more than once technical problem..
If they receive money for all banners we are clicking/loading, then we have the rights to demand more profesional treatment us as customers.
It is a bussines..And the owner must hire ppl that knows what are they doing..
If s1 is testing an update on test server and after that something is wrong that means that he don't know much about such project like PHP and MYSQL. It is only a computer and a code.. It makes that what they have written..
So this time i await that we receive so long PPT how this update problem is bothering normal play..

Last time they didn't gave PPT what in my opinion is having customers in deep black hole.

Greetings
Pepl


Ok first...this isn't a discussion thread. It's for reporting of Bugs....this one has now been reported by over 100 people in 4-5 different threads. do we know about the bug? I think so.

Second. This game is free to play....we are not paying customers. we may donate towards the costs of hosting and bandwidth usage but there is no warranty express or implied in the user agreement you consented to when you opened your account (if you even read it)

this particular bug has only caused an inconvenience which does not require a PPT....in the event that it did that decision is made solely at Admins discretion.

For those of you that don't agree with the way Jason wants to run his game (yes it's his...he owns it!!) there is a simple solution.


Oh you guys make me proud to think that you have passed through my alliance (and still in it)

Can people just stop harassing Admin, and just let him do his job.

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 2:15 am
by klandathu
Just let Admin do what they can. We're in no position to demand PPT and the like. We're the ones who want to play the game, and if you dont like it, go play somewhere else.

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 2:16 am
by Lord Silent Bob
Sorry....but.... :-D

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 2:18 am
by *Crowley
Admin is also a human, and people make mistakes, but in this case it is an issue with the MySql server.

and that is something that can't be resolved in 2-3 clicks, even not by someone who has a SQL certificate.

Just give admin time to solve the issue, and like midnight said, don't annoy him.

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 2:47 am
by ARC_trooper
i dont get it why people need PPT now.

PPT is the same as now, only now you dont know when this ends. (i.e you cant be attacked now, just like in PPT :P)

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:05 am
by Midnight
ARC_trooper wrote:i dont get it why people need PPT now.

PPT is the same as now, only now you dont know when this ends. (i.e you cant be attacked now, just like in PPT :P)


Amen. I agree 100%

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:12 am
by Anarchy_
Midnight wrote:
ARC_trooper wrote:i dont get it why people need PPT now.

PPT is the same as now, only now you dont know when this ends. (i.e you cant be attacked now, just like in PPT :P)


Amen. I agree 100%


also means there wont be a massive farm fest, as no1 knows when its going to end. granted some people will get lucky (its kinda impossible to have no1 online) but its part of the game so just deal with it. :wink:

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:21 am
by ksvisa
error again. I cannot attack! :(

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:26 am
by CityHunter
Pepl wrote:I almost agree with both of you..
But we ARE customers ( he receive money from us! by ours computers, we are generating a profits by ours networks ) and service provided by owner of this site is still a service. So he can wrote what he want.. The LAW is LAW.. In EU court have decided about similiar case.. And that what owner wrote was only for him.. He has a company that provides a services and he will be payed for that so standard must be holded!

Sorry for starting this, that was my last post..
I will not be spamming anymore..

Greetings
Pepl


OMG I can't belive what I'm reading. If I would be admin I would ban you. Admin can shut down server if he wants and noone can't force him to reopen it becouse if I understand this correctly this is still private server. I understand this game like rules on forums: "If you don't like, go away on other forums" in this case "go play other MMORPG". Even if you pay for naqu/uu/ats he can ban you :-D or show me the rule where is writen otherwize. I mean .. grow up :(

PS: this is my opinion.

regards

and admin: take your time :)
everybody else: it's only a game. :D

Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 3:30 am
by *Crowley
Pepl wrote:I almost agree with both of you..
But we ARE customers ( he receive money from us! by ours computers, we are generating a profits by ours networks ) and service provided by owner of this site is still a service. So he can wrote what he want.. The LAW is LAW.. In EU court have decided about similiar case.. And that what owner wrote was only for him.. He has a company that provides a services and he will be payed for that so standard must be holded!

Sorry for starting this, that was my last post..
I will not be spamming anymore..

Greetings
Pepl


Correct and not correct,

you are a user, not a customer, of a NON paid service.
wich also means, a bit similar like the linux distributions, that for a free service no support is obligatory. It also means, that if admin wants and gets enough of people nagging about his attempts to improve the game (improvements sometimes bring problems), he can just shut down this game without anyone being able to do something against it.
you can go to court for this if you want to but a user of SUSE Linux who decided just to download the free ISO (so not the paid version wich includes support) lost his case against it and had to pay also the costs of the process

also: the problem is for everyone the same, so no one gets advantages out of this, even not naq from attacks, because it is highly possible that admin will put a gamewide PPT (like he did last year)

stop doing like this game is life-important, it is only a game, a free game, and every game ever made has bugs, just give the right people time to solve them