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Re: Ascension is balanced.

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:03 am
by samson1111
Hells__Angel wrote:
madonnaa wrote:
Shooting Star wrote:Ascension is the most balanced server in the game. It is the only server where you absolutely have to be powerful in all stats of the game to be successful. You cannot sacrifice one stat or concentrate in just one area because you can get messed up really easily if you do.

Now as I have said before and I will suggest it again, I am all for being able to transfer ascension resources to the main accounts for the price of NOT being able to ascend again EVER. I will gladly make myself a little more vulnerable in ascension to gain back a little power in main. It would actually let me do SOMETHING with my ascension account because currently I can do nothing with it.

Now, 1 trillion DMU converted to LF and then converted into APP would be a little over 3 million APP which converts to 18 trillion Naquadah. So I would be fine with that (even though I would LOVE to be able to convert the APP into units as well but Naquadah seems to be the only acceptable medium for everyone involved).

Here is my suggestion: 1.) in order to participate in this plan, you forgo any further ascension attempts you may have (or may gain in the future).
2.) in the Cosmic Trade Screen, you will still be able to convert DMU into LF, but there will then be another key where you can convert LF into APP to transfer back to your main account.
3.) there is an exchange rate penalty if your ascension account size is smaller than your main account. Basically, the amount of APP converted into Naquadah is multiplied by your army size in ascension/army size in main (if ascension is less than main; sorry guys, no INCREASES are available if you are smaller in main than in ascension).
4.) This Naquadah can only be used by the account that it is transferred to. It will not be a cheap way to give or get resources for non-ascended accounts or accounts that have not completed all of their ascensions. People can still attack you for the Naquadah and might even succeed in stealing it but will be unable to use it as it vaporizes into the ethereal mist.

I believe this will fuel the ascension server and the ascension process on main. People will want to ascend now to be able to eventually transfer their resources back to main. And it is available to everyone. It's just that some people who ascended well have an advantage over the quick ascenders. And it is not overbalancing, as it doesn't give an overwhelming advantage in main.


are you stupid or sometihng??

[size=12]there is no point playing ascention. IF you happen to get yourself to a resonable size, DD or OMEGA or DDE WILL RAID YOU!!! THEY WILL THREATEN YOU THERE IS NO WAY TO BENIFIT FROM THIS PLAN UNLESS YOU ARE NO1. NO1 WILL EVER BE GOOD IN ASCENTION DUE THE FACT THAT DD, DDE, OMEGA WILL *modded* YOU UP THE SECOND YOU GET TO A RESONABLE SIZE!!

HOW DO I KONW??

I RECIEVED A TOP 10 ACCOUNT, AND NOT LONGER THAN 1 WEEK DID I RECIEVE THREATS FROM HEEPS OF OMEGAS THREATING TO RAID ME. THATS WHY I QUIT

CAUSE ASCENTIION IS *modded* AND YOUR ALL IDIOTS FOR SACRAFISING MAIN STUF FOR A GAME THAT YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SUCCED IN, JUST BENFIF THE STUPID DD, OMEGA ETC

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You were advised to raise your defence. :-)

what madonnaa wrote is funny, but sadly its the truth :(...

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:15 am
by Hells__Angel
Mashall is god. :-D

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:31 am
by RobinInDaHood
Hm, interesting. So covert doesn't protect you from sabotage? Only the assassins do so? News to me...

Sure would be nice if there was a comprehensive guide available for ascension. I've been playing it for half a year or more and I'm still learning new stuff that should have been pretty basic knowledge.

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:40 am
by Hells__Angel
RobinInDaHood wrote:Hm, interesting. So covert doesn't protect you from sabotage? Only the assassins do so? News to me...

Sure would be nice if there was a comprehensive guide available for ascension. I've been playing it for half a year or more and I'm still learning new stuff that should have been pretty basic knowledge.


Mashall is god. :-D

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:24 am
by ~Phoenix~
RobinInDaHood wrote:Hm, interesting. So covert doesn't protect you from sabotage? Only the assassins do so? News to me...

Sure would be nice if there was a comprehensive guide available for ascension. I've been playing it for half a year or more and I'm still learning new stuff that should have been pretty basic knowledge.


There goes the big secret in destoying anyone completly in ascended lol.

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:25 am
by Hells__Angel
~Phoenix~ wrote:
RobinInDaHood wrote:Hm, interesting. So covert doesn't protect you from sabotage? Only the assassins do so? News to me...

Sure would be nice if there was a comprehensive guide available for ascension. I've been playing it for half a year or more and I'm still learning new stuff that should have been pretty basic knowledge.


There goes the big secret in destoying anyone completly in ascended lol.


Exactly why I edited :oops:

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:26 am
by marshall
of course covert protects from sabs... why wouldn't it...


thats like sayin that a defence wont protect from a attack... geezzz...

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:27 pm
by ÃÐØÑΧ
marshall wrote:of course covert protects from sabs... why wouldn't it...


thats like sayin that a defence wont protect from a attack... geezzz...


depends how good your assassin power is really, as in if you can't beat the defence you can use your assassin power to destroy the defence planets to lower their defence that way to be able to attack.

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:03 pm
by The Xeno
Hm, interesting. So covert doesn't protect you from sabotage? Only the assassins do so? News to me...

Quiet!... It took me surviving a three-on-one fight to figure that out - a great deal of my soldiers lost their lives in the name of learning - some bothans too :P

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:31 am
by Lore
RobinInDaHood wrote:Hm, interesting. So covert doesn't protect you from sabotage? Only the assassins do so? News to me...

Sure would be nice if there was a comprehensive guide available for ascension. I've been playing it for half a year or more and I'm still learning new stuff that should have been pretty basic knowledge.



I been asking for one for awhile but Forum/Admin still thinks its "cool" to hide ascended. Pointless I think but hey not my call.

Seems backwards to me to want people to play a server and then make it as difficult as possible to make good decisions, followed by being able to be forced out of the server as well. What do I know tho?

Re: Ascension is balanced.

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:21 am
by Ergon
samson1111 wrote:
Hells__Angel wrote:
madonnaa wrote:
Shooting Star wrote:Ascension is the most balanced server in the game. It is the only server where you absolutely have to be powerful in all stats of the game to be successful. You cannot sacrifice one stat or concentrate in just one area because you can get messed up really easily if you do.

Now as I have said before and I will suggest it again, I am all for being able to transfer ascension resources to the main accounts for the price of NOT being able to ascend again EVER. I will gladly make myself a little more vulnerable in ascension to gain back a little power in main. It would actually let me do SOMETHING with my ascension account because currently I can do nothing with it.

Now, 1 trillion DMU converted to LF and then converted into APP would be a little over 3 million APP which converts to 18 trillion Naquadah. So I would be fine with that (even though I would LOVE to be able to convert the APP into units as well but Naquadah seems to be the only acceptable medium for everyone involved).

Here is my suggestion: 1.) in order to participate in this plan, you forgo any further ascension attempts you may have (or may gain in the future).
2.) in the Cosmic Trade Screen, you will still be able to convert DMU into LF, but there will then be another key where you can convert LF into APP to transfer back to your main account.
3.) there is an exchange rate penalty if your ascension account size is smaller than your main account. Basically, the amount of APP converted into Naquadah is multiplied by your army size in ascension/army size in main (if ascension is less than main; sorry guys, no INCREASES are available if you are smaller in main than in ascension).
4.) This Naquadah can only be used by the account that it is transferred to. It will not be a cheap way to give or get resources for non-ascended accounts or accounts that have not completed all of their ascensions. People can still attack you for the Naquadah and might even succeed in stealing it but will be unable to use it as it vaporizes into the ethereal mist.

I believe this will fuel the ascension server and the ascension process on main. People will want to ascend now to be able to eventually transfer their resources back to main. And it is available to everyone. It's just that some people who ascended well have an advantage over the quick ascenders. And it is not overbalancing, as it doesn't give an overwhelming advantage in main.


are you stupid or sometihng??

[size=12]there is no point playing ascention. IF you happen to get yourself to a resonable size, DD or OMEGA or DDE WILL RAID YOU!!! THEY WILL THREATEN YOU THERE IS NO WAY TO BENIFIT FROM THIS PLAN UNLESS YOU ARE NO1. NO1 WILL EVER BE GOOD IN ASCENTION DUE THE FACT THAT DD, DDE, OMEGA WILL *modded* YOU UP THE SECOND YOU GET TO A RESONABLE SIZE!!

HOW DO I KONW??

I RECIEVED A TOP 10 ACCOUNT, AND NOT LONGER THAN 1 WEEK DID I RECIEVE THREATS FROM HEEPS OF OMEGAS THREATING TO RAID ME. THATS WHY I QUIT

CAUSE ASCENTIION IS *modded* AND YOUR ALL IDIOTS FOR SACRAFISING MAIN STUF FOR A GAME THAT YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SUCCED IN, JUST BENFIF THE STUPID DD, OMEGA ETC

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You were advised to raise your defence. :-)

what madonnaa wrote is funny, but sadly its the truth :(...


;lol o yea **Filtered**

i hread several memebers were building a huge strike to destroy me

corckscrew is one i think but yea

dont make some sht up hells angel

Re: Ascension is balanced.

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:10 am
by Hensenshi
madonnaa wrote:;lol o yea chickens

i hread several memebers were building a huge strike to destroy me

corckscrew is one i think but yea

dont make some sht up hells angel

Corkscrew wouldn't need to "build" his strike to take you on. :lol:

Re: Ascension is balanced.

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:46 am
by Hells__Angel
LoL

I didn't make that up... you were actually advised to specifically raise your defence to 3 trillion, the defence on that account was not sufficient for the amount of planets waiting to be taken.

Re: Ascension is balanced.

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:59 pm
by Hensenshi
Hells__Angel wrote:LoL

I didn't make that up... you were actually advised to specifically raise your defence to 3 trillion, the defence on that account was not sufficient for the amount of planets waiting to be taken.

Who would this be who needs a 3 trill def to protect their planets?

Re: Ascension is balanced.

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:38 pm
by Hells__Angel
The person who bought Oldman's account.