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Re: pairing merces
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:14 am
by Chris M
311 [TA] wrote:You can only have 105.00 percent (base of 25 plus 80 percent in upgrades) of your trained troops as mercenaries.
Beyond that, you do not have enough troops loyal to you to ensure compliance to your orders.
ADDITIONALLY - each Merc (attack or defence) is paired with a 'super soldier' (attack or defence). This means that you can only have as many attack/def Mercs as you have supers of that type.
Its impossible to get the extra 5% I should have on merc armies..........
I think it should be changed 1 super can be paired with 2 mercs...........
then it is possible to get higher merc counts above 100% for people like me
good point, but i would say 10/1 super. lol but i just liked my merc attack
Re: pairing merces
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:46 pm
by SVaRuN
correction...you liked it....
We ll make a song about it...they were legendary Chris M
Re: pairing merces
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:37 pm
by Robe
What may appear to be a minor change to Jason (Forum) may be a major change to some players.
Therefore it would be sensible to give warning of changes so people can adjust their strategy.
Also, suggestions raised with Jason should be posted on forum for wider consultation prior to implementation.
Not everyone can get up at 4am in the morning to chat.
Re: pairing merces
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:08 pm
by Timmy
Chris M wrote:311 [TA] wrote:You can only have 105.00 percent (base of 25 plus 80 percent in upgrades) of your trained troops as mercenaries.
Beyond that, you do not have enough troops loyal to you to ensure compliance to your orders.
ADDITIONALLY - each Merc (attack or defence) is paired with a 'super soldier' (attack or defence). This means that you can only have as many attack/def Mercs as you have supers of that type.
Its impossible to get the extra 5% I should have on merc armies..........
I think it should be changed 1 super can be paired with 2 mercs...........
then it is possible to get higher merc counts above 100% for people like me
good point, but i would say 10/1 super. lol but i just liked my merc attack
i say if your merc tech is 105% let there be 1.05 mercs per super if its 80% .8 merc per super so we all get our % worth
Re: pairing merces
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:09 pm
by TheRook
311 [TA] wrote:You can only have 105.00 percent (base of 25 plus 80 percent in upgrades) of your trained troops as mercenaries.
Beyond that, you do not have enough troops loyal to you to ensure compliance to your orders.
ADDITIONALLY - each Merc (attack or defence) is paired with a 'super soldier' (attack or defence). This means that you can only have as many attack/def Mercs as you have supers of that type.
Its impossible to get the extra 5% I should have on merc armies..........
I think it should be changed 1 super can be paired with 2 mercs...........
then it is possible to get higher merc counts above 100% for people like me
indeed
1524078 Trained Mercs.
1524078 Trained Military Units.
You can have a maximum of 1,600,282 Trained Mercs.
a bit of a shame... requires correcting...
TheRook
Re: pairing merces
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:45 am
by 1horseman
Timmy wrote:Chris M wrote:311 [TA] wrote:You can only have 105.00 percent (base of 25 plus 80 percent in upgrades) of your trained troops as mercenaries.
Beyond that, you do not have enough troops loyal to you to ensure compliance to your orders.
ADDITIONALLY - each Merc (attack or defence) is paired with a 'super soldier' (attack or defence). This means that you can only have as many attack/def Mercs as you have supers of that type.
Its impossible to get the extra 5% I should have on merc armies..........
I think it should be changed 1 super can be paired with 2 mercs...........
then it is possible to get higher merc counts above 100% for people like me
good point, but i would say 10/1 super. lol but i just liked my merc attack
i say if your merc tech is 105% let there be 1.05 mercs per super if its 80% .8 merc per super so we all get our % worth
I like your idea regarding merc tech.
Re: pairing merces
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:27 pm
by Thufir_Hawat
Sounds better than just the 1:1 now. Right now the Modifiers are negated for those over 100% and any player can be the same with a few extra normal units.
Re: pairing merces
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:29 pm
by Nigatsu_Aka
Also, the death rate isn`t right... i mean when you attack and the number of supers is equal to the number of mercs, they die equaly... i mean what`s the difference between a super and a merc? A super is very highly trained, the elite of the warriors and he dies like a stupid merc?
Re: pairing merces
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:23 am
by 1horseman
Nigatsu_Aka wrote:Also, the death rate isn`t right... i mean when you attack and the
number of supers is equal to the number of mercs, they die equaly... i
mean what`s the difference between a super and a merc? A super is very
highly trained, the elite of the warriors and he dies like a stupid
merc?
Maybe the strike supers engage the defense supers in battle.
Re: pairing merces
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:03 am
by SVaRuN
Maybe they take one for the team
Re: pairing merces
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:02 pm
by Thufir_Hawat
Prehaps they get shot in the back by the stupid mercs they brought along....
Nigatsu_Aka wrote:Also, the death rate isn`t right... i mean when you attack and the number of supers is equal to the number of mercs, they die equaly... i mean what`s the difference between a super and a merc? A super is very highly trained, the elite of the warriors and he dies like a stupid merc?
Viewing a pair of attack on me the Supers Die at half the Rate of the Mercs when an equal amount are sent.
#$@#$% sent:
1 Assassin and 1,501,185 Super Soldier and 1,501,185 Raiders
#$@#$% sent:
1 Assassin and 1,456,149 Super Soldier and 1,411,113 Raiders
As you can see 45,036 of the 135,108 Deaths were Supers or 1/3rd.
That seems to fit the rule of the Supers dieing at half the rate of regular units.
Re: pairing merces
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:27 am
by Munchy
Timmy wrote:Chris M wrote:311 [TA] wrote:You can only have 105.00 percent (base of 25 plus 80 percent in upgrades) of your trained troops as mercenaries.
Beyond that, you do not have enough troops loyal to you to ensure compliance to your orders.
ADDITIONALLY - each Merc (attack or defence) is paired with a 'super soldier' (attack or defence). This means that you can only have as many attack/def Mercs as you have supers of that type.
Its impossible to get the extra 5% I should have on merc armies..........
I think it should be changed 1 super can be paired with 2 mercs...........
then it is possible to get higher merc counts above 100% for people like me
good point, but i would say 10/1 super. lol but i just liked my merc attack
i say if your merc tech is 105% let there be 1.05 mercs per super if its 80% .8 merc per super so we all get our % worth
We just got admin to fix it as so
Re: pairing merces
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:36 am
by Abhi
woohoo! more mercs
Re: pairing merces
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:52 pm
by deathguard
i love this it might even make the price of turns go down now that people realsie that they cant go and farm at no cost to themselves and i have all ready seen an increase in the amount i am hit for from 5-9 bil
Re: pairing merces
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:39 pm
by MackTheKnife
Don't like the randomness of updating with no consultation, warning or notice once the change has been done.
Since I did not try and exploit the spirit and rules of the game by relying solely on mercs, I am okay with this new update. I will be attempting to "balance" my attack and defence with this view, once I get my super levels back on a 1:1 basis with weapons, then no more supers will be built except to replace dead ones, and any more weapons will be manned by supers until I have x amount of weapons, and half-x supers and half-x mercs.