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Oh I am by no means upset I just get lively on this subject.

peple become a bully when they do things without regard for the person at the other end.

I'm not going to stand here and list things off, but too many people forget they are dealing with real people.

It's not just 1's and 0's, there is so much more.

Demanding resources for no reason and random massings are bullying in my eyes as they do not contribute to an overall good gaming community.

I disagree with the point that you are only being bullied if you let yourself get bullied. Standing up to them, even smashing them back doesn't change the fact that person is a bully.

q3 wrote:Demanding resources for no reason and random massings are bullying in my eyes as they do not contribute to an overall good gaming community.

I disagree with the point that you are only being bullied if you let yourself get bullied. Standing up to them, even smashing them back doesn't change the fact that person is a bully.

A bully only has power when he controls you with fear. While you may or may not be able to do anything about his aggressive or anti-social behavior, you DO have control over how you react to it. In that way, you can completely disarm a bully.

1. Unprovoked massings which are for no reason other than to stunt growth of other players, and are in some cases orchestrated. It is a game and everyone has a right to play it without having to contend with this. This is not limited to one section of the community unfortunately.

2. As Psicolix stated, blackmailing/extortion or whatever you want to call it is bullying in its purest form. Some of you I suspect enjoy doing this and will try to justify it.

RobinInDaHood is correct that you have the choice to stand up to the bully. Unfortunately in a game such as this, 99% of the time the bully is a much larger player and most people are happy to comply for fear of being attacked and ruining their account, which in turn can lead to them leaving the game.

Editing for spelling

Bullying is the intentional tormenting of others through verbal harassment, physical assault, or other more subtle methods of coercion such as manipulation. There is currently no legal definition of bullying.

Ingame useage of any method to attack sab spy or destroy how can this be bullying? You are given these methods by the maker of the game. If it is wrong Im sure the admin would take it out such as cheaters are banned. If you cant handle building your army with 1 weapon 1 man to raid and attack for naq guess what go play my little pony or something

you cant really define bully. i allways try looking at it on a case to case basis.

but extortion and sitting on somebodys accoutn who did nothing to you certainly fells under it.

if you need help because you are bullied feel free to contact me

its simple, in sgw, everytime smaller players try to take naq from someone bigger and get massed or something they call the bigger player a bully, it happened to me many times, some guy comes along and takes my naq once, ofc i mass him, he shouldnt have done that, then im called a bully or worse

its called playing the game, its a war game, if u dont want to get massed dont go over ur head, dont think ur protected just cause u know "someone" big, cause ur not


now if u get a pm asking for naq or uus that u didnt took, now yes thats bullying and u just need to ask someone bigger than that person to sort things out, simple

or sell everything, and mass the guy, lol, stand up for urself

RobinInDaHood wrote:A bully only has power when he controls you with fear. While you may or may not be able to do anything about his aggressive or anti-social behavior, you DO have control over how you react to it. In that way, you can completely disarm a bully.

Oh I agree with that but as I said in my post even if you do stand up to them that person is still a bully. They may not have any power as the "bully" but they are still a bully and are bullying you into taking actions that you may not wish to do.

killtacular wrote:Ingame useage of any method to attack sab spy or destroy how can this be bullying? You are given these methods by the maker of the game. If it is wrong Im sure the admin would take it out such as cheaters are banned. If you cant handle building your army with 1 weapon 1 man to raid and attack for naq guess what go play my little pony or something.

There is a difference with using the game play to how it is supposed to be played and then using them to make other players gameplay bad.

e.g
1. A player a quarter the size of me starts taking my naq or stealing my planets. I could then easily smash them using the game functions. That wouldn't be bullying as they brought it on themselves.

2. I go out into the rankings and find a smaller player, I then proceed to mass his or her account then demand he or she gives me all their uu. I have used the game functions but in a manner that admin didn't originally design the game around. That would be bullying.

q3 wrote:
2. I go out into the rankings and find a smaller player, I then proceed to mass his or her account then demand he or she gives me all their uu. I have used the game functions but in a manner that admin didn't originally design the game around. That would be bullying.

So please enlighten us what admin originally designed the game to be Im curious now.

The game was set up to be a war game, not an extortion game. Read viewtopic.php?f=101&t=70519

Forum wrote:my main concern is if it gets frequent, and goes 'lower and lower' down the ranks, ultimately newer players will find the game threatening, not a war game, and that there is no point in trying to grow and compete.

q3 wrote:The game was set up to be a war game, not an extortion game. Read viewtopic.php?f=101&t=70519

Forum wrote:my main concern is if it gets frequent, and goes 'lower and lower' down the ranks, ultimately newer players will find the game threatening, not a war game, and that there is no point in trying to grow and compete.

yes very nice answer

forum also introduced purg for the newer players which is along the lines of separate play areas for a school in my eyes.

a few probs with purg are :-
if you reach 25mil you should be forced into the big boys yard too play (out of purg)
and in purg there are no inactive accounts for the new players so they grow slower.admin should add some toys so too speak for the new players too practice on without the risk of attack(inactive for over a month and the account moves too purg ).

my main dislike is that you can move too purg with 24,999,999 army and then stay there as long as you want.

but i digress ...
purg is a great move in the right direction for helping new players
and helps combat the bullys prob.

Bullying, and it's ugly sister extortion, are alive and well in SGW. I was recently approached a day or so ago by a small player asking for help who had received the following in-game PM (names removed):

Hi,

My name is ******* and I would like to inform you that I plan on subjugating your alliance. We can do this one of two ways, the easy way and you pay me a tribute of 200kuu (from the alliance total) a week for 5 weeks and that\'s all, or I can mass you and sit on your accounts until you pay me 200kuu a week for 5 weeks. If you plan to change realms it won\'t work so just letting you know. I have spied on all your accounts and see nothing that could even scratch my defense so if you try you will lose a lot of uu that way. Don\'t think of killing my covert since it is well over 10 times stronger than your highest persons in your alliance and I can raise it higher if I want. I will be in touch so don\'t be strangers.

The alliance under threat had 15 members with an average account size of about 400,000. The message sender was an LG with closer to 6 million. Call it bullying, call it extortion, call it "playing the game". It doesn't matter what label you put on it. I think this kind of behavior is unacceptable and the community as a whole should work to put and end to it.

RobinInDaHood wrote:Bullying, and it's ugly sister extortion, are alive and well in SGW. I was recently approached a day or so ago by a small player asking for help who had received the following in-game PM (names removed):

Hi,

My name is ******* and I would like to inform you that I plan on subjugating your alliance. We can do this one of two ways, the easy way and you pay me a tribute of 200kuu (from the alliance total) a week for 5 weeks and that\'s all, or I can mass you and sit on your accounts until you pay me 200kuu a week for 5 weeks. If you plan to change realms it won\'t work so just letting you know. I have spied on all your accounts and see nothing that could even scratch my defense so if you try you will lose a lot of uu that way. Don\'t think of killing my covert since it is well over 10 times stronger than your highest persons in your alliance and I can raise it higher if I want. I will be in touch so don\'t be strangers.

The alliance under threat had 15 members with an average account size of about 400,000. The message sender was an LG with closer to 6 million. Call it bullying, call it extortion, call it "playing the game". It doesn't matter what label you put on it. I think this kind of behavior is unacceptable and the community as a whole should work to put and end to it.

Give us his ID and I'm sure we will.

I guess the Goa'uld were being bullies when they wiped out the Tollan or when they enslaved humans to work in their Naq mines.

This is a role playing game and I play it to role play.

Therefore if someone attacks me I will mass them, if I can.

I also hang around with a group of people who also play with the same game style, i.e Like war.

I don't think people should be allowed to extort game resources in return for non aggression, However is that not what the Goa'uld do in SG1, bow down to you gods or be destroyed.

I guess the replicators were bullying the asguard and should be sent to the naughty step