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Re: The Curse of Lifers
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:07 am
by Raven
urogard wrote:Ok, I'm really wondering why people are annoyed with lifers.
Personally i don't see a reason why you should have many of them
ATM i only have 14% of my miners in lifers.
And it does save you alot of uu's to train them only in packs of 10
so if you have 1232uu's you only train 1230 into miners
And if someone is the ac'er during a war then he only needs to switch between assasin and attack soldiers. If someone wants the extra income then that someone shouldn't complain about the side effects
Then again have you ever been into a real war
Re: The Curse of Lifers
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:14 am
by [SGC_ReplicÅtors]
Raven wrote:urogard wrote:Ok, I'm really wondering why people are annoyed with lifers.
Personally i don't see a reason why you should have many of them
ATM i only have 14% of my miners in lifers.
And it does save you alot of uu's to train them only in packs of 10
so if you have 1232uu's you only train 1230 into miners
And if someone is the ac'er during a war then he only needs to switch between assasin and attack soldiers. If someone wants the extra income then that someone shouldn't complain about the side effects
Then again have you ever been into a real war
ya the cia/cop war my lifers went up 5% yes it may sound like a small increase but dam 5% to me is a couple million
Re: The Curse of Lifers
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:19 am
by urogard
Raven wrote:Then again have you ever been into a real war
I have been in several. But even then i don't see how you could get more than a few hundred thousand k lifers even if you are the ac'er with a few mil assasins
Re: The Curse of Lifers
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:54 am
by Antius
urogard wrote:Raven wrote:Then again have you ever been into a real war
I have been in several. But even then i don't see how you could get more than a few hundred thousand k lifers even if you are the ac'er with a few mil assasins
I think the point was that a few hundred thousand k lifers adds up if that happens for 200 wars.
I am currently hurting from the same thing, too many lifers..
Re: The Curse of Lifers
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:58 am
by Hells__Angel
I once had this problem, 90% of my army was lifers.
Go away, get your head down and do some raiding.
My lifers take up less than 25% of my army now.
Re: The Curse of Lifers
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:05 pm
by Antius
Hells__Angel wrote:I once had this problem, 90% of my army was lifers.
Go away, get your head down and do some raiding.
My lifers take up less than 25% of my army now.
If this was to me, I've never had 90% of my army in lifers, due to my raiding, and it will be a long, long, long time till it shall be down to 25%
Re: The Curse of Lifers
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:16 pm
by Hells__Angel
Antius wrote:Hells__Angel wrote:I once had this problem, 90% of my army was lifers.
Go away, get your head down and do some raiding.
My lifers take up less than 25% of my army now.
If this was to me, I've never had 90% of my army in lifers, due to my raiding, and it will be a long, long, long time till it shall be down to 25%
Not directed at anyone, just giving a bit of advice from someone who's been there.
Also proving that lifers really aren't much of a problem.
Re: The Curse of Lifers
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:40 pm
by Raven
urogard wrote:Raven wrote:Then again have you ever been into a real war
I have been in several. But even then i don't see how you could get more than a few hundred thousand k lifers even if you are the ac'er with a few mil assasins
I mean real wars where you lose millions of UU 10's of millions even?
If you are going to mass some trill+ defences you gotta untrain .....
Re: The Curse of Lifers
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:45 pm
by SÅTÅN 666
Raven wrote:urogard wrote:Raven wrote:Then again have you ever been into a real war
I have been in several. But even then i don't see how you could get more than a few hundred thousand k lifers even if you are the ac'er with a few mil assasins
I mean real wars where you lose millions of UU 10's of millions even?
If you are going to mass some trill+ defences you gotta untrain .....
Urogard has never been in a proper war...That's why his army size is big nowdays
Re: The Curse of Lifers
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:28 pm
by Teal'auc of the Void
Lifers need to go... as I have 15 million of them. Wars do that. 
Teal'auc
Re: The Curse of Lifers
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:48 pm
by Robe
Lifers disadvantage those that are willing to fight to protect their alliances and friends.
Lifers advantage stat builders who prefer to sit and watch, not play.
Lifers may have been logical once but they need to go now.
Re: The Curse of Lifers
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:32 am
by urogard
_Ancient God Anubis_ wrote:Urogard has never been in a proper war...That's why his army size is big nowdays
I worked up my
<modded> off to get to where i am vanilla boy.
Oh and btw, having to fight a pesky annoyance for 8 months who doesn't let you get a proper defence because he'd mass it, didn't make it anything better.
And raven. if you're going to mass some Trill+ defence you're be going to get supers which means i don't know how you want to untrain those and get extra lifers
It's not at all about how many or how big wars you fight. It's about
how you fight them. And if you do things right then you can finish a war with a bigger army than you started out with.
Re: The Curse of Lifers
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 1:10 am
by samson1111
_Ancient God Anubis_ wrote:Urogard has never been in a proper war...That's why his army size is big nowdays
funny quote... Martin is one of the best players in this game and he doesnt need to be in a xCOP alliances as some1 I quoted.
Since I know him, he was in AK, I talk to him sometimes. LOD and LOT had a very long war with AK. And tbh, not every1 has to fight in wars all the time. Its up to him or every1 else to decide
Re: The Curse of Lifers
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 2:32 am
by Raven
urogard wrote:_Ancient God Anubis_ wrote:Urogard has never been in a proper war...That's why his army size is big nowdays
I worked up my ass off to get to where i am vanilla boy.
Oh and btw, having to fight a pesky annoyance for 8 months who doesn't let you get a proper defence because he'd mass it, didn't make it anything better.
And raven. if you're going to mass some Trill+ defence you're be going to get supers which means i don't know how you want to untrain those and get extra lifers
It's not at all about how many or how big wars you fight. It's about
how you fight them. And if you do things right then you can finish a war with a bigger army than you started out with.
ehhh let me give you an example in the CIA-CoP war i was left with 13mill lifers after 2 days ..... yes i massed all my UU away ........ at the end of the war i was at 75 by raiding ....... now how did i get those extra lifers