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Re: "own thread"

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:20 am
by Blackburn
no offence, but giving ingame advantage that much, isnt fair for others.
what will come next? removing the ingame caps for the mods?

Re: "own thread"

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:27 am
by killtacular
Let me start by saying I have been a volenteer umpire for little leagues a long time now.

I can say moding and umpireing can be put side by side. I look at it this way If I can do my job with out being seen then I have done a damn good job. I don't do it for the nice job blue or you called a good game.

I find it amusing that there are polls up right now for the best mod, best forum admin , best global mod. Look at me Im a mod hear me roar.

If a mod can go around quietly moding the forums and no one really knows about it I say thats a damn fine mod. Thats just my opionion.

Re: "own thread"

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:31 am
by ~Zekk~
killtacular wrote:If a mod can go around quietly moding the forums and no one really knows about it I say thats a damn fine mod. Thats just my opionion.


And yet, in the past there have been good mods have been removed for not being exactly that invisible.

But meh, i've been a member of several online communities, and trust me - the mods here aint so bad. things could be much much worse :o



~Zeke~

Re: "own thread"

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:33 am
by System Lord Nephthys
Lore wrote:Well my 2 cents.

I am a mod and I didnt even know about this until I saw the thread on Bucks name. I personaly do think mods deserve alittle something for all the crap the general public seems to throw at us


Do ya now? I wasn't aware that you were forced to be a mod.

Lore wrote:Either way we give up our time with our R/L's and game time to try to do something for the community so I do feel we deserve some recognition ingame for it.


Do ya now? I wasn't aware that you were forced to be a mod.

Wether you were asked/applied is irelevant you ACCEPTED - to be honest there should be NO bonuses offered, if mods are really doing it for the good of the community (with full knowledge that the job comes with no real benefits) then they will never (or more to the point -should- never) feel that they deserve anything.

*-*-*

Anyway, this seems to be becoming a flame fest so i'd better get prepared!

*lights torch and picks up pitch fork*

^--- Tru Storie!

~Neph

Re: "own thread"

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:36 am
by ~Zekk~
System Lord Nephthys wrote:to be honest there should be NO bonuses offered


I'm fine with forum bonuses, as the job they do is on the forum. The unique forum tittles, for example. I'm even fine with the ingame tittles they get, as forum has stated that he's testing something - which means in the future we may all get that ability. But explicit power advantages such as the MT is a bit overboard.



~Zeke~

Re: "own thread"

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:39 am
by System Lord Nephthys
~Zekk~ wrote:
System Lord Nephthys wrote:to be honest there should be NO bonuses offered


I'm fine with forum bonuses, as the job they do is on the forum. The unique forum tittles, for example. I'm even fine with the ingame tittles they get, as forum has stated that he's testing something - which means in the future we may all get that ability. But explicit power advantages such as the MT is a bit overboard.



~Zeke~



I don't see why (although I am fine with it). Almost all the forum mods profess that they are doing it for the 'good' of the community. Yet it seems that they are always going emo and saying how they are so hard done by. At the end of the day, if you don't like the job DON'T DO IT!

P.S. and also don't try complainign for a bonus cuse the job has lost its novelty.

P.S.S. or any other reason for that matter.

^--- Tru Storie!

~Neph

Re: "own thread"

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:42 am
by unification
I don't care about the titles for mods, but ingame resources should not be given.

If the mods say they declined it then that's great.

Re: "own thread"

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:44 am
by Nuto vixen
There are mods saying "I didn't choose to be a mod".

Then why did you take the position when so many others are quite ready and willing to jump into your role without demanding or expecting any sort of thank you's or kick backs.

Do not complain that you are a mod and its hard and you deserve something. You don't have to be one, and you have never been forced. You should feel honoured to have been chosen to do a thankless job and you need to accept that it always going to be thankless. You SHOULD be doing it for the good of the community, not for self recognition, a "greatest mod" award, or so that you can throw around phrases like "do you know how much I do for this forum!".

You were not voted onto this island, and to be honest, if it were a voting scenario, most of you would in fact be voted OFF the island. If thats disrespectful, then I'm sorry but its the truth and you need to stop acting like you deserve a giant customized piñata.

If you don't like the job, easy, quit. I did, it was quite easy. As soon as I did I noticed that the mods whine a hell of a lot more than any of the normal forum goers. But hey, what do we know right?

Re: "own thread"

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:45 am
by System Lord Nephthys
Nuto vixen wrote:There are mods saying "I didn't choose to be a mod".

Then why did you take the position when so many others are quite ready and willing to jump into your role without demanding or expecting any sort of thank you's or kick backs.

Do not complain that you are a mod and its hard and you deserve something. You don't have to be one, and you have never been forced. You should feel honoured to have been chosen to do a thankless job and you need to accept that it always going to be thankless. You SHOULD be doing it for the good of the community, not for self recognition, a "greatest mod" award, or so that you can throw around phrases like "do you know how much I do for this forum!".

You were not voted onto this island, and to be honest, if it were a voting scenario, most of you would in fact be voted OFF the island. If thats disrespectful, then I'm sorry but its the truth and you need to stop acting like you deserve a giant piñata.

If you don't like the job, easy, quit. I did, it was quite easy. As soon as I did I noticed that the mods whine a hell of a lot more than any of the normal forum goers. But hey, what do we know right?


QFT

I repeat, you were not forced to do anything.

^--- Tru Storie!

~Neph

Re: "own thread"

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:48 am
by killtacular
Nuto vixen wrote:There are mods saying "I didn't choose to be a mod".

Then why did you take the position when so many others are quite ready and willing to jump into your role without demanding or expecting any sort of thank you's or kick backs.

Do not complain that you are a mod and its hard and you deserve something. You don't have to be one, and you have never been forced. You should feel honoured to have been chosen to do a thankless job and you need to accept that it always going to be thankless. You SHOULD be doing it for the good of the community, not for self recognition, a "greatest mod" award, or so that you can throw around phrases like "do you know how much I do for this forum!".

You were not voted onto this island, and to be honest, if it were a voting scenario, most of you would in fact be voted OFF the island. If thats disrespectful, then I'm sorry but its the truth and you need to stop acting like you deserve a giant customized piñata.

If you don't like the job, easy, quit. I did, it was quite easy. As soon as I did I noticed that the mods whine a hell of a lot more than any of the normal forum goers. But hey, what do we know right?


And I always thought you did a good job ( pats you on the back)

Re: "own thread"

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:53 am
by agapooka
Nephthys, just a point you might wanna consider: it's actually usually when people are forced to do something that they get no bonuses. The word "slavery" comes to mind. :lol:

As for ingame bonuses, I personally don't think it's fair either, but then again, I don't think it's fair that people volunteer to use their money to fuirther themselves in the game, so, it opens up a new can of worms.

Let me put it this way:

Time = money
As of now: money can equal SGW resources

And let's not forget: modding = time

I'm not in favour of unfair ingame bonuses, but as I said, I'm not in favour of unfair wallet advantages either. As I said, new can of worms :P

That said, have you ever eaten worms?

Re: "own thread"

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 8:57 am
by System Lord Nephthys
Agapooka wrote:Nephthys, just a point you might wanna consider: it's actually usually when people are forced to do something that they get no bonuses. The word "slavery" comes to mind. :lol:

As for ingame bonuses, I personally don't think it's fair either, but then again, I don't think it's fair that people volunteer to use their money to fuirther themselves in the game, so, it opens up a new can of worms.

Let me put it this way:

Time = money
As of now: money can equal SGW resources

And let's not forget: modding = time

I'm not in favour of unfair ingame bonuses, but as I said, I'm not in favour of unfair wallet advantages either. As I said, new can of worms :P

That said, have you ever eaten worms?


Tru stories!

However!

they applied/accepted a job which they KNEW would be unpaid.

^--- Tru Storie!

~Neph

Re: "own thread"

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:02 am
by R3B3L
Actually, as far as I can remember, we were never told if we'd get anything when we became mods, or not.

So Not exactly. We wern't told either way.

Either that, or I didn't pay attention. >_>

Re: "own thread"

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:09 am
by RepliJake
Agapooka wrote:Nephthys, just a point you might wanna consider: it's actually usually when people are forced to do something that they get no bonuses. The word "slavery" comes to mind. :lol:

As for ingame bonuses, I personally don't think it's fair either, but then again, I don't think it's fair that people volunteer to use their money to fuirther themselves in the game, so, it opens up a new can of worms.

Let me put it this way:

Time = money
As of now: money can equal SGW resources

And let's not forget: modding = time

I'm not in favour of unfair ingame bonuses, but as I said, I'm not in favour of unfair wallet advantages either. As I said, new can of worms :P

That said, have you ever eaten worms?


See that's what we like to call "look over there"

one has nothing to do with the other, as others have said, people have volunteered for what they had full knowledge was a thankless job, they profess that they do it for the good of the community, they then go on to whine about getting no thank you's, like I have previously stated, most people that notice the mods are the ones being modded, you truly expect them to say thanks, you'd have a better chance waiting for father Christmas to turn up with Jesus riding on his back in his birthday suit.

Mods are going on about how they give up their time, well you just look at them post, most of them are spammers, they are always here, looking on the forums is what they do, wow, they are really doing something different, chuck another bone their way, they are working so hard for us all, but BUT "we deserve payment for it" yeah, good of the community my car boot...

as spacey said

Spacey wrote:Aye. What I meant to say, was that it don't really affect me either way (don't really play anyway). But, Forum wants to give something, I will not "look a gift horse in the mouth". I will be grateful.

How about a planet? We get one planet each? Our ID's we won't be singled out, and people could really be none the wiser (we could have bought it or used mt's)

Or a choice: UU, or a planet? (or another combination).


really sums up how some of the administration know it won't be liked but are happy to cover it up.

Re: "own thread"

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:10 am
by Chris M
My opinion on this is ingame benefits shouldnt be given weekly (in the form or a extra MT or anything). Its a volunteered job and if they dont like it they can quit.

However,

A one off present for the job, e.g a extra MT, PPT bonus one week, SS bought for the account, etc i wouldnt have a problem with. as long as its not a regular occurance and happens in special circumstances.

Mods do a job without thanks, a hard job. Im opposed to mods benefiting ingame ingeneral but a one off gift as thanks wouldnt be too bad, as long as it isnt substantial.

its the gesture that needs to be appreciated.

but the donation should be announced, not secret because that gives a more sinister look to it