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Re: What shoude be the New DMU rates?

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:09 pm
by Hansbrough
might as well make it 1:1

Re: What shoude be the New DMU rates?

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:55 am
by Mukasa
High Empty wrote:nah she just doens't like me, cause i massed her!

As for my income it's only 3.5 tril. And guess what, you can buy at my price, or go somewhere else. Ofcourse i'll be massing everywhere else that you can go. DD and Omega will be farming everyone else, that makes dmu, So when you come down to it, We set the price.


so u will be massing TLE members? lmao

ur only one of many ppl that sell dmu now and MANY MANY more will be selling it now....and no offense but ur prices are crappy now :shock:

why would i basicly GIVE so much naq for such a small amount of DMU if i can get it much much cheaper anywhere else?

Re: What shoude be the New DMU rates?

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:34 am
by S T I
High Empty wrote:nah she just doens't like me, cause i massed her!

As for my income it's only 3.5 tril. And guess what, you can buy at my price, or go somewhere else. Ofcourse i'll be massing everywhere else that you can go. DD and Omega will be farming everyone else, that makes dmu, So when you come down to it, We set the price. If you don't want to pay it, Don't. However we set the price it's will still be cheaper then ascending. Atleast in the respect that you still need around 7 tril to get your fleets to a large amount, and after that well it becomes a matter of ascension is cheap ( sort of) as it gives you straight lifeforce, instead of dmu. However that being said. Just work out your own math, add in all the factors and figure it out.


For all those that dont want to ascended, or buy dmu that want to complain, well their this nice button called DESCENDING ONESELF. GO PRESS IT~!.



HE is correct in what he says about the price to a certain degree,

with everyone having a big growth/income they have to protect this, there is no bank in ascension.

so unless you have the defence to keep large amounts out, this will set the exchage rate imo

strike can be built very quickly

why DMU exchange rates may not change much

people will need to spend loads on defence & this take time, yes people from alliance can give to there own at cheaper rates, but this will only slow them down & slow the others down in the alliances. yes more will be growing but again this will take alot of time & at a slower rate.

so i can't see the exchange rate changing that much, 1>1 i think could be about right, but i think we will all have to wait & see :D

Re: What shoude be the New DMU rates?

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:03 pm
by PSICOLIX
don't matter how much main Naq sti, etl, he, sis will make in MAIN you can't set the rates because they too big...

If you ascend with 100k UP, its 8,4 Trill from that plus 3 Trill from trained/untrained/Naq of minimum requeirement.
lest "forget" the covert levels...
thats 11,4 Trill for 3,77 Bill Life force or 37,7 Trill DMU.

to keep it cheaper than Ascend, thats 1 Trill Main naq for 3 to 4 Trill DMU.

honestly if you don't like the rates, go Ascend...

Re: What shoude be the New DMU rates?

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:11 pm
by [SGC_ReplicĂ…tors]
give it time before ascn looks like main there will be cheap DMU forevery one

Re: What shoude be the New DMU rates?

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:57 am
by Dark Bahamut
yes psi but the thing is the big players in ascension dont want to ascend
they want to sell their DMU

we dont want to ascend we wud rather buy DMU like it was said it is cheaper

so it is down to the big ascended they will set the rates,
players are greedy thats the way the market works
if thewy can make 3 tril naq a day for 10 turns ascension rsources then they will
simple as
maybe they will try hold out but they will drop their price

HE knows this and knew it wud happen
why do you think he was trying to sell 900 mil planets?
he knew the market rate was dropping and tried to take quick advantage of it
all players have to do is wait and soon the big ascended will drop their price

like i said im offering 3 tril main naq for 30 tril DMU
ill do it for 20 tril DMU if you are one of the top 5 players just to prove my point lol

Re: What shoude be the New DMU rates?

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:56 am
by Nostradamus
People need to buy dmu to upgrade fleets to 100k.

From 60k to 100k it's 6.4 tril, from 40k to 100k it's 8.4 tril.

Considering the average charisma is now around 300 this means you will gain up to 5 mil planets more per day if you buy the dmu to max your fleets (buying fleets becomes cheaper after 480 charisma and not many people are there).

If you have to wait 2 weeks to raise the dmu yourself you are potentialy losing something around 40 mil planets and anyone won't be happy to lose 40 mil planets except a few. If you have to wait more then 2 weeks then you really have a problem .... those buying dmu will pass you and it will be very difficult to catch them.

I think a rate of 1 naq : 2-2.5 dmu it's a good start.

And for all those thinking about how much HE or STI or Mojo would make a day if they sell at this rate ......... they've bought Microsoft actions when the price was 2-3 cents ..... now the price is 80$ ..... their risk, their gain.

Re: What shoude be the New DMU rates?

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:16 am
by Dark Bahamut
right now they can set it to whatever they want
it doesnt bother me
every account in ascension has around 1 tril DMU in it atm in potential
i already have trillions lined up
for those of you who dont want to pay the rates
i suggest you do the same
after every inactive account is emptied we'll see wat the rates are then
until then this topic is pointless

Re: What shoude be the New DMU rates?

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:35 am
by Ishtar66
considering i had a decent account on ascnesion before update & all i got was 2.1 bil ALF after the update, several of my alliance mates(who are way weaker than me on main) have already passed me on CER on ascension by 1 mil or more planets a day.

when the prices for DMU come to a good rate i will be buying a few tril DMU for my CER. untill then all dmu i get goes towards CER

Re: What shoude be the New DMU rates?

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:01 pm
by Munchy
Hmm, interesting question. In my opinion, prices will drop. Maybe not immediately, but over the next month, they will.

My reasoning is simple. It will be relatively easy to get account up there that make 4-5 bil per turn. While at the same time 4-5 bil incomes in main will still be limited to the medium sized players. So for a smaller player in main who only makes say 700 mil/turn, they could easily turn their ascended account into something that generates far more main income via trading than their actual main income. Given, it will be harder for them than bigger players because of farming and whatnot, but it will still happen. Think of all the people who sell resources for cash and how it has decreased prices drastically in that market. My guess is that something similar with ascension resources for main ones will happen.

Yes, the smaller accounts won't be able to sell nearly as much as the big ones will, but if enough do it just for extra main resources, they won't have too either.

Re: What shoude be the New DMU rates?

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:48 am
by Memento
i just laugh wen i hear the rates people will be offering

i make close to 5trill aday now never thought that woud happen but for me to make a positive return on that i would have to get more then 500bill naq so that for me at rank 22 means a gd rate for me to buy at is 10:1 anything less would be detrimental to both accounts and just block each other off etc

now the bigger account make 30 times wat i make so even if they sell 20:1 that would be worth it for me but at the same time hardly affect them as it would only take abit of saving to achieve less then 5hours for lets say adays income to STI or 2days income to most

i know HE wont do small prices cos that just wont happen but i hope some of the others do

and also the farming thing its gonna be big across the board mate but the hits would mean more to us then they do to u, and dont foget who ur allies are :p

Re: What shoude be the New DMU rates?

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:29 am
by S T I
the market will find its own lvl, but like some one else said to start with there will no t be much change.

as for what DMU is worth to one person is not the same as it is worth to another.

If you earn 5 trill aday, your costs are differant from some one who earns 500 bil.

yes you don't/may not need to buy DMU but that dosn't mean some one should sell cheaper.

you have t think like its a shop, do you sell at a lower price to a person who earns more, no,

that person either dosn't buy or buys less, or more if his main can support, so he gets more quicker in ascension, so he will not have to buy (maybe)

but growth effects all this.

so in the end, its all wait & see.

Re: What shoude be the New DMU rates?

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:43 am
by [SGC_ReplicĂ…tors]
it doesnt matter how we get there in the end its going to be the same effect



and i cant wait

Re: What shoude be the New DMU rates?

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:09 am
by Mordack
Some of you big sellers are going to have to lower your rates, I think, or you'll lose business to ascensions.

Before these updates, I bought DMU for my account because it was far cheaper than ascending. If this is no longer the case, and I get more from ascending than I do from buying DMU, then what's the point of me buying? I should be ascending instead. I daresay I'm not the only player with this approach.

Re: What shoude be the New DMU rates?

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:03 am
by nimious
and if you ascend you get all those fancy titles :D