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MGZ wrote:

Jack wrote:

Åpophis ™ wrote:

Jack wrote:Best: Richard Nixon (not really all that serious)

Worst JFK (I actually didn't like JFK)

WATERGATE!!!!!!!


[sarcasm] Sure JFK was the worst [/sarcasm] he was in Luther King side, he fought racism, was for human rights and tried to solve the cold war in a better way...big reasons to dislike him and say he's the worst... *sigh*

Oh sure sure, let's just forget about how JFK made things worse in Cuba....

worse? JFK stared down the commies! major respect for that one!

Yeah like the bay of pigs! Sweet move. Really stared em down then.

Vietnam was a sweet decision too.

JFK might have been bluffing, but had war broken out things were already in the MAD stage (MAD=MutuallyAssuredDestruction). being ready for war is pointless when you and the enemy will wipe one another from the planet before troops can be deployed. Anyway, it's the fact that he was willing to at least bluff that says something.

But I will give you the Bay of Pigs debacle....

Oh, and JFK only sent advisers to Vietnam. It was Lyndon Johnson who actually started sending combat troops over.

I think Arnold Schwarzenegger did pretty good



(noted reference to Simpson's movie)

MGZ wrote:JFK might have been bluffing, but had war broken out things were already in the MAD stage (MAD=MutuallyAssuredDestruction). being ready for war is pointless when you and the enemy will wipe one another from the planet before troops can be deployed. Anyway, it's the fact that he was willing to at least bluff that says something.

But I will give you the Bay of Pigs debacle....

Oh, and JFK only sent advisers to Vietnam. It was Lyndon Johnson who actually started sending combat troops over.

JFK assassinated the South Vietnamese president who was possibly going to negotiate neutrality, millions of lives could have been saved if he wasn't so afraid of communism in third world nations.

Jack wrote:

Åpophis ™ wrote:

Jack wrote:Best: Richard Nixon (not really all that serious)

Worst JFK (I actually didn't like JFK)

WATERGATE!!!!!!!


[sarcasm] Sure JFK was the worst [/sarcasm] he was in Luther King side, he fought racism, was for human rights and tried to solve the cold war in a better way...big reasons to dislike him and say he's the worst... *sigh*

Oh sure sure, let's just forget about how JFK made things worse in Cuba....

got to agree about jfk, not in office long enough to really see where it was all headed, and he did put us on the road to Vietnam.

But he was democrat and even if he did mistakes alone fact of being a democrat makes him impossible to be on the worst list!

Best Mr. Dwight D. Eisenhower

Worst: ???

Hurricane wrote:Best Mr. Dwight D. Eisenhower

Worst: ???

yay for the interstate!

Jack wrote:

Åpophis ™ wrote:But he was democrat and even if he did mistakes alone fact of being a democrat makes him impossible to be on the worst list!

You're a blind fool Pops....

not called for Jack.

Åpophis ™ wrote:But he was democrat and even if he did mistakes alone fact of being a democrat makes him impossible to be on the worst list!

Exactly man, plus he started the Peace Corps, and got killed so he deserves some pity points for that

Which is why your not particularly good at debates man, you always stoop down to insults.

Come_Forth wrote: and got killed so he deserves some pity points for that

that's the thing about assassination: it changes those popularity polls in a big ******* hurry.

the problem is the d***cracy. it requires ppl to be political and have some opinion. since most of them are political/economical/legal morons their votings are mostly stupid. that's why the world is crap. and under democracy it'll become even worse.
the only situation when it can become better is when worse is no longer possible.

all the people in a demoracy gets the goverment they deserve, for better or worse............


worse Pez. in my memory Jimmy Carter, nice man, but washington eat him up

best, Ron R. only because right or wrong, he had a vision of what he wanted, and in the end got what he wanted done. Also the nation was so polerized at that time, it gave some people hope, and gave others some one to pin the blame on. Now that unifer lol

Jack wrote:I call it as I see, and what Pops said is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard, regardless of political standing, just because someone belongs to a particular political party doesn't make them any better


To be honest the very fact he is a politician makes him the Devil's spawn, I am by no means political and don't plan to be, ever

I think he was just messing around, if he really believes that it is foolish but I took it as a joke Once you join the Democrats you too will see that we are infallible, and borderline holy.

Corran I'm not a big fan of the democratic process, and would much prefer to have a some kind of government where intelligent people rule (some kind of meritocracy or oligarchy).