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Re: Charisma and Fleets

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:38 am
by Lord Apollo
vinny d wrote:yes he did by making the app rate higher allowing others to catch up to the high ranked accounts.

Noobs who do not deserve to be there are the ones who do not know how to build a balanced account. Just having a high defense is not the only thing you need. You need assassin power, a defense, and covert to in my opinion not be massed.


yup id have to agree with you there.
i, myself am no big player. before the update i had a measly army size of 700k and now im at 25mil. i can definetly understand why mojo and the other big guys are really pissed off. i did pretty small ascensions (last one was 300k) and i benefited hugely from the 1mil APP we were given. BUT i dont *really* consider myself to be a noob.
ive come across countless accounts recently (a lot from big alliances!) who have an assassins power of 5000 or less! i experimented on one account who had a 2.5tril defence, 0 strike, ~10bil covert and 0 assassin by using destroy military and discovered i was destroying 100k interlinked defence planets, and losing ONE assassin each time!
surely if a lot of people in this situation are from big alliances then they should KNOW how to build their account properly?

(if anybodys interested these are MY stats. as you can see, the ranks are well balanced:
Offensive Power 1,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx Ranked 92
Defensive Power 3,xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx Ranked 230
Covert Capacity 2x,xxx,xxx,xxx Ranked 306
Assassin Power 2x,xxx,xxx,xxx Ranked 153
Command Star Power 4xx,xxx,xxx,xxx Ranked 244)

Ive not had any help from anybody with regards to ascension - i learned the hard way. i dont see why high ranked players should be worried about "all the new people getting free stuff and jumping ahead" if they dont know how to play in the first place!

Re: Charisma and Fleets

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:49 am
by Cole
I believe the top charisma and fleets is ranked 1 player...
About big players you mentionned Lord Apollo, I just noticed, me, a prior, was close by like 5-10 ranks to an Ancient God and an Elder Ancient God!
Isn't there something wrong?? Me who ascended 1 time being able to catch up people who respectively did 10 and 11 ascensions?? :shock:
I wonder where they spent their LF and DMU :o

Re: Charisma and Fleets

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:55 am
by Rich™
well do the maths

1mil APP, at 1:33 LF x 10 = 330mil LF

1mil APP, at 1:1250 LF x 1 = 1250mil LF

so dont be surprised if you overtake LGs and AGs who havent ascended since update

Re: Charisma and Fleets

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:01 am
by Cole
Rich™ wrote:well do the maths

1mil APP, at 1:33 LF x 10 = 330mil LF

1mil APP, at 1:1250 LF x 1 = 1250mil LF

so dont be surprised if you overtake LGs and AGs who havent ascended since update

I ascended in june 2006 last time so I got the APP from last ascension (woot!)
And yep I got like 1bil LF after converting it greetings to the little help given by the update!

Re: Charisma and Fleets

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:39 am
by Maulwurf05
Apophis ™ wrote:I believe the top charisma and fleets is ranked 1 player...
About big players you mentionned Lord Apollo, I just noticed, me, a prior, was close by like 5-10 ranks to an Ancient God and an Elder Ancient God!
Isn't there something wrong?? Me who ascended 1 time being able to catch up people who respectively did 10 and 11 ascensions?? :shock:
I wonder where they spent their LF and DMU :o


You might have come across some accounts who only play for the main benefits or the title... So far I've come across 2 ancient god accounts (after attacking me in main or during a war) that have been so bad I couldn't stop laughing and feel pity for them. In fact, one was so far down the ranks I couldn't even attack him properly...

Re: Charisma and Fleets

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:48 am
by Nutter
vinny d wrote:Noobs who do not deserve to be there are the ones who do not know how to build a balanced account.

deascend them? they get the picture eventually... they cant even see whos hitting them... i think lol, and they can they cant spy you to see your main worshipper if its different :)

Re: Charisma and Fleets

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:49 am
by Mojo Rising
Apophis ™ wrote:I believe the top charisma and fleets is ranked 1 player...
About big players you mentionned Lord Apollo, I just noticed, me, a prior, was close by like 5-10 ranks to an Ancient God and an Elder Ancient God!
Isn't there something wrong?? Me who ascended 1 time being able to catch up people who respectively did 10 and 11 ascensions?? :shock:
I wonder where they spent their LF and DMU :o


Well we spent our LF on stats........which are now insanely cheaper than they were when we bought them. So before you go all high and mighty on those LGs and EGs, you might want to consider that Forum gave you the equivalent of 2.5 to 3 quadrillion DMU worth of levels.

Re: Charisma and Fleets

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:00 am
by Borek
Please stop crying Mojo, you are still exponentially more powerful than anyone not in Omega or DD. I for one am getting real sick of your tears when we all know you could personally crush anyone you want, at will. Yes, the rest of us are doing much better, which means we are better farms, which benefits who exactly? Yep, the already massively powerful accounts who can afford to farm at will knowing retaliation is highly unlikely and even if it happens will be largely ineffective due to the insane income and UP. And as yet another addition, we also know that DD and Omega act as teams so even if we were to try and take you out, the rest of DD would ruin us in short order even if it somehow happened.

Now if you want to complain about anything i would expect it to be the fact that the game is boring when you are so much more powerful than anyone outside your alliance and Omega...

Re: Charisma and Fleets

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:06 am
by Mojo Rising
[SGC_ReplicÅtors] wrote:i THINK being deascnd give u 10 days of PPT right in ascension which is far better for me anyways

@ vinny d
no one got stiffed in the update from my point of view, ppl who have played are still in the ranks...i think its that now ppl have the capabilities to catch up is whats worrying ppl...


Not worrying about people catching up. Worrying about people catching up without having to sacrifice their main accounts. I built up an MS eight times, once before my first ascension and seven times after each of my ascensions. I got absolute crap in the way of APP for the MS. Now folks get to keep their MSs when they ascend. Utter crap. It's only a matter of time before spy levels and miners stay as well. Pretty soon, all you will have to do is type in how many APP you want and you won't lose anything from your main account.

But Jason has no concept of how the game is played (as evidenced by his attempting to build his "ascension account" up). He just typed in what levels he wanted in everything and then trained up his planets. 250 million planets later, he was gently reminded by yours truly that he knows exactly squat about the game as I dropped him from rank 12 to rank 16.

Re: Charisma and Fleets

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:59 am
by Cole
Mojo Rising wrote:
Apophis ™ wrote:I believe the top charisma and fleets is ranked 1 player...
About big players you mentionned Lord Apollo, I just noticed, me, a prior, was close by like 5-10 ranks to an Ancient God and an Elder Ancient God!
Isn't there something wrong?? Me who ascended 1 time being able to catch up people who respectively did 10 and 11 ascensions?? :shock:
I wonder where they spent their LF and DMU :o


Well we spent our LF on stats........which are now insanely cheaper than they were when we bought them. So before you go all high and mighty on those LGs and EGs, you might want to consider that Forum gave you the equivalent of 2.5 to 3 quadrillion DMU worth of levels.

Fyi I LOST ranks...in ascension, I was like 600 BEFORE it came in. Didn't loos alot ranks, less than 150 anyway.
So I'm not a winner for ranks, as I had way less total powers account, but my account was higher in ranks than now!

Mojo Rising wrote:
[SGC_ReplicÅtors] wrote:i THINK being deascnd give u 10 days of PPT right in ascension which is far better for me anyways

@ vinny d
no one got stiffed in the update from my point of view, ppl who have played are still in the ranks...i think its that now ppl have the capabilities to catch up is whats worrying ppl...


Not worrying about people catching up. Worrying about people catching up without having to sacrifice their main accounts. I built up an MS eight times, once before my first ascension and seven times after each of my ascensions. I got absolute crap in the way of APP for the MS. Now folks get to keep their MSs when they ascend. Utter crap. It's only a matter of time before spy levels and miners stay as well. Pretty soon, all you will have to do is type in how many APP you want and you won't lose anything from your main account.

But Jason has no concept of how the game is played (as evidenced by his attempting to build his "ascension account" up). He just typed in what levels he wanted in everything and then trained up his planets. 250 million planets later, he was gently reminded by yours truly that he knows exactly squat about the game as I dropped him from rank 12 to rank 16.

ouch I wondered why he lost ranks :shock: ...and I was very temptated to take the 480bil DMU sitting after he sold his crazy 100s trillions def :D

Re: Charisma and Fleets

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:15 am
by Mojo Rising
You should have taken it. I stole 18 T from him to help compensate some of my losses. Plus it was outstanding therapy for me to get back at him for ruining the game and two years of hard work.

Re: Charisma and Fleets

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:38 pm
by Cole
Mojo Rising wrote:You should have taken it. I stole 18 T from him to help compensate some of my losses. Plus it was outstanding therapy for me to get back at him for ruining the game and two years of hard work.

I didn't because I remember what would happend to all of people (like me) who farmed jtest account, if they have continued...It was not like pianomutt's massing, it was ostracizing threat for any farming again :shock:

Re: Charisma and Fleets

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:56 pm
by Corkscrew
Why does SGC have access too this section, when he hasnt even ascended yet may i ask?

Re: Charisma and Fleets

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:57 pm
by Munchy
Corkscrew wrote:Why does SGC have access too this section, when he hasnt even ascended yet may i ask?

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Re: Charisma and Fleets

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:00 pm
by Corkscrew
Ahh ok, nice one dude..