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Re: Remember Remember

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:58 am
by BELISKNER
We celebrate the failed attempt at blowing up parliament by blowing up a ton of tiny bombs :?

Only in England, by the by, fireworks are dangerous, I bought some and strapped them together with some sparklers, it gets airborne alright but. . .there is a bit of debris :(

Re: Remember Remember

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:29 am
by Wolf359
Had a cracking firework display and barbecue in my garden last night - a few of the neighbours brought their little kids - which was cool, and they all loved the bright lights - until the firework went BANG! at the end, then half of them started to scream and cry in unison! My kids just laughed.

Re: Remember Remember

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:32 am
by agapooka
Wolf! I didn't know you liked to make little children cry! :shock:

Re: Remember Remember

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:35 am
by Grand Admiral Martin
I never knew he was catholic and that was the reason, learn something new each day.

Re: Remember Remember

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:52 am
by semper
as my sig dictates...I should say..


remember remember the 5th of november, the gunpowder treason and plot. I can think of no reason why the gunpowder treason should ever be forgot.

(cue tchaikovsky's 1812 overture and something blowing up, im torn between omegan headquarters and jasons house..lol..)

Re: Remember Remember

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:03 am
by Reaver
~Alterans~ wrote:Not sure if this was answered for you Tok`ra but the book Harriet wrote was written against slavery, yes. But is it not odd that it was that book that made a big bang. She wrote that book attempting to start a bigger conflict. It was the jesuits top priority to start a civil war in the U.S.

EDIT: And yes, Harriet and Booth where working together. Both where doing the jesuits dirty work.

EDIT: And to support this theory, Stowe was indeed a catholic. She was devout in her religion as she claims she received the idea for her book while at church. It is an interesting link between her and the jesuits, basically the henchmen of the roman catholic church.


Your grasp of history is absolutely awful. Stowe did not write the book to start a war. She, like many religious people in the years leading to the Civil War, saw slavery as the most evil and vile thing in American society as was determined to end the practice. But those people were not responsibile for the outbreak of the Civil War becuase slavery was not responsible for the Civil War. The idea that what happened at Fort Sumter was over slavery is a fallacy that has been thrown around to the point that people don't question it. But the war broke out over state's rights, of which slavery was one issue. Slavery did not even become a major fact in the conflict until years into the war.

As for you assertions about Booth...Show just ONE piece of evidence to support the idea that he was Catholic. And in the meantime, consider this. All the available evidence strongly indicates that he was definitely not Catholic, and furthermore that he was a member of a well-known anti-Catholic political organization.

John Wilkes Booth was baptized and confirmed as an Episcopalian protestant. His baptism took place at St. Timothy's Episcopal Church in Catonsville, Maryland, on January 23, 1853. This is documented by the writings of Booth's sister. See, Clarke, Asia Booth, John Wilkes Booth: A Sister's Memoir, (University Press of Mississippi, Jackson, 1996 edition), pp. 44-45.

Moreover, in the 1850s, John Wilkes Booth was an active member of the American Party, an organization better known as the "Know-Nothing Party". This was a strongly anti-Catholic and anti-immigrant political party. See, Rhodeehamel, John and Taper, Louise, eds., Right or Wrong, God Judge Me: The Writings of John Wilkes Booth, (University of Illinois Press, Urbana 1997), pp. 38-39; see also, Clarke, Id., p. 75.

In fact, the only specific reference to any religion in all of Booth's actual writings is an August 1854 letter in which he mentions participating a Methodist religious meeting that month. See, id., Rhodeehamel and Taper, p. 7.

The idea that he was working with a prominent abolitionist for the Vatican, two groups of people he did not agree with, is absurd. Also, as was posted, he did not end up in Stowe's house. He was found hiding in a barn where he died a very messy death. He has no connection whatsoever with Stowe.

In addition, it is a well documented fact that Stowe was not Catholic and certainly had no connection with the Jesuits. She was first a Congregationalists and later moved to the Episcopalian church after she became married.

Re: Remember Remember

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:07 am
by Bad Wolf
Emperor Martin wrote:I never knew he was catholic and that was the reason, learn something new each day.


Im glad one of my threads made one person learn something. And it was about Catholicism too, which makes it even better lol

BW

Re: Remember Remember

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:25 am
by Grand Admiral Martin
yeah, starting to like the church even more. jesuits = catholics special forces haha

Re: Remember Remember

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:08 pm
by Phlamingoe
Reaver wrote:
~Alterans~ wrote:Not sure if this was answered for you Tok`ra but the book Harriet wrote was written against slavery, yes. But is it not odd that it was that book that made a big bang. She wrote that book attempting to start a bigger conflict. It was the jesuits top priority to start a civil war in the U.S.

EDIT: And yes, Harriet and Booth where working together. Both where doing the jesuits dirty work.

EDIT: And to support this theory, Stowe was indeed a catholic. She was devout in her religion as she claims she received the idea for her book while at church. It is an interesting link between her and the jesuits, basically the henchmen of the roman catholic church.


Your grasp of history is absolutely awful. Stowe did not write the book to start a war. She, like many religious people in the years leading to the Civil War, saw slavery as the most evil and vile thing in American society as was determined to end the practice. But those people were not responsibile for the outbreak of the Civil War becuase slavery was not responsible for the Civil War. The idea that what happened at Fort Sumter was over slavery is a fallacy that has been thrown around to the point that people don't question it. But the war broke out over state's rights, of which slavery was one issue. Slavery did not even become a major fact in the conflict until years into the war.

As for you assertions about Booth...Show just ONE piece of evidence to support the idea that he was Catholic. And in the meantime, consider this. All the available evidence strongly indicates that he was definitely not Catholic, and furthermore that he was a member of a well-known anti-Catholic political organization.

John Wilkes Booth was baptized and confirmed as an Episcopalian protestant. His baptism took place at St. Timothy's Episcopal Church in Catonsville, Maryland, on January 23, 1853. This is documented by the writings of Booth's sister. See, Clarke, Asia Booth, John Wilkes Booth: A Sister's Memoir, (University Press of Mississippi, Jackson, 1996 edition), pp. 44-45.

Moreover, in the 1850s, John Wilkes Booth was an active member of the American Party, an organization better known as the "Know-Nothing Party". This was a strongly anti-Catholic and anti-immigrant political party. See, Rhodeehamel, John and Taper, Louise, eds., Right or Wrong, God Judge Me: The Writings of John Wilkes Booth, (University of Illinois Press, Urbana 1997), pp. 38-39; see also, Clarke, Id., p. 75.

In fact, the only specific reference to any religion in all of Booth's actual writings is an August 1854 letter in which he mentions participating a Methodist religious meeting that month. See, id., Rhodeehamel and Taper, p. 7.

The idea that he was working with a prominent abolitionist for the Vatican, two groups of people he did not agree with, is absurd. Also, as was posted, he did not end up in Stowe's house. He was found hiding in a barn where he died a very messy death. He has no connection whatsoever with Stowe.

In addition, it is a well documented fact that Stowe was not Catholic and certainly had no connection with the Jesuits. She was first a Congregationalists and later moved to the Episcopalian church after she became married.


Wowowoowoowowwoooooooo.

Chill.

You did some intense research there. Now I feel dumb, but no really.

Re: Remember Remember

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:57 pm
by REK
wrong hes the history professor ..becarefull there may be a pop quiz ;)

Re: Remember Remember

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:56 am
by Phlamingoe
REK wrote:wrong hes the history professor ..becarefull there may be a pop quiz ;)


Baah!! No! I fold under pressure(like a lawn chair)!

Re: Remember Remember

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:59 am
by Nox
moved, been here for a while now, not sgw related 8)

Re: Remember Remember

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:03 am
by Apadizamek
Bad Wolf wrote:
Id just also like to say I hope you all remeber what an important day this was



Thats hilarious.

Re: Remember Remember

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:56 pm
by Spacey
Indeed, remember

Pour vous tout:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkQSi3iJwlY