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Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:59 pm
by blahh
crumbeling down lol its not about that :)

its just i got less and less time and i got fed up with dealing with issues thats it so i wanna take the easy pass for once in my life, being a solider or a no1 :)

Rome is still as strong as it was, dont be fulled. It takes more than 1 man to take down rome :)

besides we are going offtopic.
Mods again close this plz and del :)

Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:04 pm
by smooshable
It seems this discusion is largely a matter of semantics, namely that if NAP protected alliances sell to an enemy alliance the nap will be canceled. No one seems to be denying this point, the argument is over WHO is breaking the nap. I love semantics as much as the next person and am enjoying the discusion, so long as everyone realises it probably makes no practical difference....

Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:15 pm
by Tanith
Honestly you guys can do whatever you want. Trying to enact a trade embargo isn't going to work. The market revolves mainly around naq, not honoring a part of a NAP that doesn't exist. If Omega, DDE, or any other alliance wishes to sell stuff to AE/TJ/SN I bet they'll do it, offically or unoffically, regardless of the NAP. Unless the NAP specificly states "You may not sell resources to an alliance that we are at war with." then selling the resources is perfectly legal. Although TLE may not like it, they will have to deal with it.

Anyhow,
I'm buying some DMU, whose selling? :)

Still got that 5 tril Buck? :lol:

Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:29 pm
by Mukasa
how pathetic this whole thread is....started when ppl didn't get what sva wanted to say...and one wrote something and others support that without using their own brains...

Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:54 pm
by killtacular
Mukasa wrote:how pathetic this whole thread is....started when ppl didn't get what sva wanted to say...and one wrote something and others support that without using their own brains...


This remark doesn't make sense everyone has a choice in what they do. Just because people want to have the same view doesn't mean there not making there own choices.

Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:22 pm
by SVaRuN
It was involved ni NAP treaties...everytime we extend it we however didnt say it directly except to DD who can confirm it...

So basically it was specified and any mambo jambo knows its helping your NAP person enemy and also can be easily abused as to selling bellow market prices and then making some excuses why did you do it...

I am not the first man in DL but I persumed smth said for NAPs can be stated again here officially but ofcourse noone can confirm this now can they...only DD might since it wasnt long ago we talked about it and specified it once more


Someone used nice words...embargo PERFECT match its embargo and we cant controll it anyway but its a military tactic we just werent dictating anything now...we dictate it in our NAPs...
Also us cancling nap if it happens was in the agreement where cancling it for dislike or whatever wasnt...

So we go by the book and you mr Jake goes by who can f... someone in the head more...


Blue

Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:27 pm
by Neimenljivi
If I choose, I'll trade with both parties, and if it's both by same rate it isn't funding a war or anything.

It's everyone's right to trade with whoever s/he wishes.

~N

Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:53 pm
by SVaRuN
and its my right to mass you to hell for it right?


I didnt state that it aint your right...read it again...


I state that those breaking contract and the rest will be shot down..

Now here ppl come to tell me you ll break a contract or not...


We practiced it in CIA COP war



Anyways I already appologised am not a 1st man in DL so neglect what i said...since my superior did correct me


Blue

Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:57 pm
by RepliJake
SVaRuN wrote:It was involved ni NAP treaties...



Not in ours.

SVaRuN wrote:everytime we extend it we however didnt say it directly except to DD who can confirm it...


Not in ours...

SVaRuN wrote:So basically it was specified


No it wasn't.

SVaRuN wrote:I am not the first man in DL but I persumed smth said for NAPs can be stated again here officially


If it had been discussed there would have been no need to write it here.

SVaRuN wrote: but ofcourse noone can confirm this now can they...


Because you made it up.

SVaRuN wrote:we just werent dictating anything now...we dictate it in our NAPs...


You haven't, not even once.

SVaRuN wrote:Also us cancling nap if it happens was in the agreement where cancling it for dislike or whatever wasnt...


What?

SVaRuN wrote:So we go by the book


The made up for the occasion book?


SVaRuN wrote:and you mr Jake goes by who can f... someone in the head more...


What does that mean?


SVaRuN wrote:Blue


Purple

If I want to sell stuff I will, if that means you cancel the NAP then so be it.

Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:18 pm
by SVaRuN
Only one Flaw

Who was at NAP convos you? Nah sadly not...
Did those who were tell you all the details...Sadly not...

Was I at those convos...Sadly yes...



Anyways do as you please my boss said he is ok with it for now... :D



I ll explain the last part Jake though he has no clue is right and whatever I said means zero squat. Sensei dont be mad you won 8)
Btw stop playing WoW and you ll know more whats going on in omega :lol:




Blue

Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:29 pm
by RepliJake
W/E keeps you going...

Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:34 pm
by blahh
@Jake
I think the point that sva is tryn to make.. even thoug ppl misinterpretate it for a threat is this...

A NAP (at least from our side) was based on good faith and a posible more friendly future relationship. Thus IF having an option of not doing something to harm the other side you take it.

now i personaly dont see trading as a way to harm.. as long as rates are normal rates.. its traiding... but aperently thats my personal belif...

but if you look at it from a different perspective not so long ago.. some of our lads were tryn to descend tweety i think... than HE sold tweety dmu.. thus preventing our guys from descending her... Its true she could have gotten the dmu elswhere... but still For me personaly.. if some1 in omega was tryn to descend some1 that i know they were in war with... and he came to me asking for a dmu deal.. i d reject it... i also rejected spy recons when there was a war going on not so long ago.. but thats just me...

True its not written anywhere, but i guess it depends on the type of person more or less... So basicly the q is would you like the same cirkumstances if our roles were reversed? EG you fighting some1 and us selling them dmu so preventing their "total demise" (all hipotetical talking ofcourse)... IF you say no, than i sugest you dont trade, if you say yeah than trade away, but when you can probably expect vice versa in return.

And aperently this thread will be known for something else.. for first time i think i ll might be going back on my word.. as repulsed as i am bymyself doing that i m actualy considering it as the preasure rises :)

anyways again. sva you as the author of the post, can you ask mods to close it so it doesnt stir up the pot too much ppl have been informed and that was your primary purpose i think... and you as always do as you see right even thoug i go crazy some time.. atm You ourank me and apernety i have to go by your will :)

Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:42 pm
by SVaRuN
no you outrank me or i wouldnt follow your order...


Close the thread MOD ;)

Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:43 pm
by RepliJake
Yeah, Svarun has admitted that I am right and Omega are the best Alliance ever, the topic is finnished.

Re: Selling DMU to AE/SN/TJ

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:46 pm
by blahh
dude.. thats just not smart..

now ppl will think we have no clue whos in charge... ppl might think we are disorganised... i mean realy.. a clear chain must be visable else we apear weak... If i m your boss and you are my boss.. whos our boss than??? this is a pm right would be rather stupid to post this questions in the public area ? :-D