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Re: Big defenses, small armys?
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:28 am
by Legendary Apophis
Yep Pookie is right sabotage is better than massing...especially when you have covert level 27 (or higher) hehe
TEMPTATION is SOOOO BIG!!! I wanna SAB COVERTLESS dudes with 150bil defences and tiny armies HAHAHAHAHA!

Time they learn how to play game properly

Re: Big defenses, small armys?
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:51 am
by Reaperman
sabbing is pointless and will teach them nothing as a few naq attacks will replace lost weaps but take out half or more of their army with a good massing...
now thats a hard lesson to learn

Re: Big defenses, small armys?
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:37 am
by Shornaal
If it moves, mass it. If it doesn't move, mass it anyway.

Re: Big defenses, small armys?
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:47 am
by JediMasterX
yeah, I learned from pianomutt2000 and Reaperman. My mentors.

Re: Big defenses, small armys?
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:50 am
by Bullseye
God shornaal wrote:If it moves, mass it. If it doesn't move, mass it anyway.

Haha mate you have got so aggressive, i like it.
Your starting to have mass in your posts more then jedi.
Re: Big defenses, small armys?
Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:19 pm
by Reaperman
God shornaal wrote:If it moves, mass it. If it doesn't move, mass it anyway.

If you mass it long enough it's bound to move so you can mass it somemore

Re: Big defenses, small armys?
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:04 am
by Silver Neccho
Dude, I still get irritated when new people decide and test my defence. Last week some dude with 2 billion army tried farming me 3 times. I only had 8 billion out and with a 175 bill def, that is sooo stupid. And then I get the classic farmers that will hit me for 2 billion out. Yeah, they normally always have an attack higher then my def and get through, but it has to hurt them more then it does me. And that same guy had farmed me more then once for around the same amount of naq. Wierd I tell you.
My idea on newbs with high defences is this, and this works great for me. Train 10% of your army into def, and another 10% into covert. It works great for me. With my covert and def combined, I have a greater chance of holding more naq out in the open (well not if stooge keeps farming me for nothing). Chances are alot of people do not blindly attack if they cannot spy me since my rank is not real low. It helped me out when I was a newb too.
How to divide your army( just a suggestion, others do it WAY different, it depends on your playing style)
10% Def
10% Covert
10% Off
60-70% Miners depending on if you have anti
0-10% Anti depending if you use it.
Re: Big defenses, small armys?
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:33 am
by RepliMagni
~Alterans~ wrote:How to divide your army( just a suggestion, others do it WAY different, it depends on your playing style)
10% Def
10% Covert
10% Off
60-70% Miners depending on if you have anti
0-10% Anti depending if you use it.
You could take a fair bit of damage on a first strike with those kinds of percentages.....I'd suggest a fair bit lower even.

Re: Big defenses, small armys?
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:19 am
by agapooka
The Reaperman wrote:sabbing is pointless and will teach them nothing as a few naq attacks will replace lost weaps but take out half or more of their army with a good massing...
now thats a hard lesson to learn

You sab before the turn ends, and again right after, then you mass with less losses for you

Re: Big defenses, small armys?
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:56 am
by Legendary Apophis
I'm never farmed for 8bil or less naq
What's your def ~Alteran~?
It must be very small because I'm never farmed for less than 17bil, and most of times for 20+bil naq if it happens...and I hadn't big def at all last days

Re: Big defenses, small armys?
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:40 am
by BL1P
its all relative
the more players with big strikes the more players with big defences there will be
doh !
i mean if you have a 200bil defense your probably ranked about the same if not less than your rank on a 200bil strike
well i know what i mean anyway
Re: Big defenses, small armys?
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:46 am
by Legendary Apophis
For stat building I always choose now to pick strike instead of def because there won't be so much noobs going for a 100+bil def so I get easy ranks

Re: Big defenses, small armys?
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:40 am
by Juliette
BL1P wrote:i mean if you have a 200bil defense your probably ranked about the same if not less than your rank on a 200bil strike
Not quite... actually at 200b def you're ranked 1000, while at 100b strike, you are ranked 650.

Or did I misunderstand you?
Re: Big defenses, small armys?
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:03 am
by BL1P
no you understood me ok
but its still not that much of a difference and would be nice too know what rank you are with a 200bil strike im guessing like 500 or something
that means with a 200bil defense about 500 people can still farm you
Re: Big defenses, small armys?
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:26 am
by Legendary Apophis
BL1P wrote:no you understood me ok
but its still not that much of a difference and would be nice too know what rank you are with a 200bil strike im guessing like 500 or something
that means with a 200bil defense about 500 people can still farm you
A month ago before ascending I had 207bil strike/200bil def
Strike was ranked 170-200
Defense falling off top 1000 slowly but surely.