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Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:34 am
by ~-F-X-X-~
btw, jus looking at beta, i hav realised there is no change in rank, its stil stuck as the original main server, so as 1 could test the effects in increasing defence and attacks

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:35 am
by minisaiyan
the changes are now in main aswell ;) so they will be exactly the same till J makes more changes to beta that arent in main in his next wave of updates if there is one.

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:45 am
by Sarevok
Also, my PPT is at minus 900 minutes... Think there maybe a problem with the timers

Forum wrote:also working on, now, 2 things:
1) showing how att/cov/ac/def are calculated like income is now
+2 points

Forum wrote:so - regards ascension - weapons are the only thing that 'auto sells' at 75% of retail, and put in the post-ascension bank.
+3 points

Good changes there Forum ;)

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:31 am
by Forum
assuming your ID is right on your profile, i checked your account.
Covert Power:
.....
A lone wolf (no alliance) multiplier of 1.1 brings your covert power to XXXXXX

same in defense.
can you double check?


repli**cator wrote:howdy

I fear, being a solo player, my bonus is not added to def & atk (wasn't that supposed to be 10% to covert and defense?).
Since, according to the nice thing you added where i can view how my income/atk/def stat is counted up, I see that my race bonus on income/atk/def is the same in all three, and I see no 'added' SOLO player bonus.
Does this mean it is faulty implemented?

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:09 am
by Empy
~-F-X-X-~ wrote:btw, jus looking at beta, i hav realised there is no change in rank, its stil stuck as the original main server, so as 1 could test the effects in increasing defence and attacks

Sarevok wrote:Also, my PPT is at minus 900 minutes... Think there maybe a problem with the timers
Just echoing what they said, rank doesn't change and PPT never ends (IN BETA!). Doesn't matter all that much since it's Beta but... it'd be nice to see fixed if one could find the time.

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:54 am
by Easy^
Sarevok wrote:
Forum wrote:so - regards ascension - weapons are the only thing that 'auto sells' at 75% of retail, and put in the post-ascension bank.
+3 points

Good changes there Forum ;)



I'm not sure i understand there.... if i don't sell my weapons than they will be autosold at a higher price and the naq will be put in my bank or the naq will count towards ascencion points?

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:17 am
by Travis Dane
Easy^ wrote:
Forum wrote:so - regards ascension - weapons are the only thing that 'auto sells' at 75% of retail, and put in the post-ascension bank.


I'm not sure i understand there.... if i don't sell my weapons than they will be autosold at a higher price and the naq will be put in my bank or the naq will count towards ascencion points?


I am also confuzzled on that one could you please elaborate on this, as it seems if it comes to APP points, in ascending anything past LG+1 APP dont really help anymore(mere millions instead of bill/trill in LF cache)

Now if they r sold for naq and put into our bank that would be great, especially at the 75% rate.

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:26 am
by BMMJ13
Travis Dane wrote:
Easy^ wrote:
Forum wrote:so - regards ascension - weapons are the only thing that 'auto sells' at 75% of retail, and put in the post-ascension bank.


I'm not sure i understand there.... if i don't sell my weapons than they will be autosold at a higher price and the naq will be put in my bank or the naq will count towards ascencion points?


I am also confuzzled on that one could you please elaborate on this, as it seems if it comes to APP points, in ascending anything past LG+1 APP dont really help anymore(mere millions instead of bill/trill in LF cache)

Now if they r sold for naq and put into our bank that would be great, especially at the 75% rate.

Pretty sure it says put in post-ascension bank, so it's sold for 75% instead of 10% and when you ascend you get the naq out from the bonus and you have however many weapons worth of naq in your bank.

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:39 am
by Forum
turn engine was breaking, part way through.... fixed
Sarevok wrote:Also, my PPT is at minus 900 minutes... Think there maybe a problem with the timers

Forum wrote:also working on, now, 2 things:
1) showing how att/cov/ac/def are calculated like income is now
+2 points

Forum wrote:so - regards ascension - weapons are the only thing that 'auto sells' at 75% of retail, and put in the post-ascension bank.
+3 points

Good changes there Forum ;)

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:41 am
by Forum
you got it.
how would you word it in the 'ascension points chart' to make it obvious what happens (if it is different than currently)? ?
Travis Dane wrote:Now if they r sold for naq and put into our bank that would be great, especially at the 75% rate.

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:55 am
by Easy^
Forum wrote:you got it.
how would you word it in the 'ascension points chart' to make it obvious what happens (if it is different than currently)? ?
Travis Dane wrote:Now if they r sold for naq and put into our bank that would be great, especially at the 75% rate.



If that is the same as it has always been, i have had no clue that the naq i got when i ascended was from that...it was never explained anywhere and noone ever told me...
I always thought it was the bonus that grew with higher ascencions, considering you get UU and AT aswell.

I always sold my weps, and untrained any UU i could and broker Ats away... didn't know weps were actually sold at a higher value... damn i threw away soooo much naq xD

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:05 pm
by Travis Dane
If i recollect correctly - if u had weps and didnt sell them their value was turned into APP, the naq was never put into any bank as the naq (I believe 3 tril now) is all part of the SS pak that is basically given everytime u ascend, along with uu and at's, so i believe there needs to be another link within the ascension porthole that will allow u to sell the weps but once sold u have no choice but to ascend and if someone tries to back out of it by even shutting their computer of it reverts back and they get no naq and their weps r put back also.

$20 SS pak
Instant 3,600,000,000,000 Naquadah
Instant 2,700 Attack Turns (Attack turns are converted to Naquadah and Untrained if the recipient is in the Pergatory Realm)
Instant 2,700,000 Untrained Soliders
Instant 916 to Untrained Military Daily Production
Instant 20% increase (20% of initial capacity) in your offsite storage capacity (the 'bank' -for you, as of last turn, this would be an increase of 401,415,240,285) REMEMBER - the bank size increases/decreases with your income.
10 Days worth of power to your Merlins Planetary Dimensional Shifting Device (MPDSD) that can protect planets from attack.
One additional Race Change 'Count'.
Includes Protected Planets Treaty bonus.


Really if anything needs to be done is to give the proper increase in APP the higher ascension u go - if costs go up astronomically to ascend shouldnt there be more on the back end for perks?

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:26 pm
by ~-F-X-X-~
Empy wrote:
~-F-X-X-~ wrote:btw, jus looking at beta, i hav realised there is no change in rank, its stil stuck as the original main server, so as 1 could test the effects in increasing defence and attacks

Sarevok wrote:Also, my PPT is at minus 900 minutes... Think there maybe a problem with the timers
Just echoing what they said, rank doesn't change and PPT never ends (IN BETA!). Doesn't matter all that much since it's Beta but... it'd be nice to see fixed if one could find the time.




actually, as in beta i kno most dont consider is as any sort of usefulness apart from testing, the reasons for rank changes implies that we see how much it costs and what rank we can b b4 we even try to ascend or reach the desired rank, otherwise its a waste using the main and find out it was too late.

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:31 pm
by ~Popsicle~
Awesome with all the spanations. Nice breakdown.
Also would love to see the defense platforms clickable like the planets. Very convenient. :)

Also theres a mistype on the spanations page:
After defensive tech multipliers, your defeisive power is: 722,198,850,000
You have a race bonus to attack of 1.3400.
This brings your defensive action to 967,746,459,000

edit--make that 2. Defensive is spelled wrong as well.

Re: June 29th updates RELEASED - comment here.

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:37 pm
by Forum
its new. you got a $20 ss each time you ascended :)
and the bonus grows with the game...

this is 100% different/new -- and related 100% to the weapons you have on hand when you ascend...

Easy^ wrote:
Forum wrote:you got it.
how would you word it in the 'ascension points chart' to make it obvious what happens (if it is different than currently)? ?
Travis Dane wrote:Now if they r sold for naq and put into our bank that would be great, especially at the 75% rate.



If that is the same as it has always been, i have had no clue that the naq i got when i ascended was from that...it was never explained anywhere and noone ever told me...
I always thought it was the bonus that grew with higher ascencions, considering you get UU and AT aswell.

I always sold my weps, and untrained any UU i could and broker Ats away... didn't know weps were actually sold at a higher value... damn i threw away soooo much naq xD