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Re: How will t of the tok'ra be dealt with????

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:38 am
by Reschef
Egeria wrote:But I still have to ask, when will you stop the foolishness of being gods, which you are not?



More then 100 million of Jaffas, Kull warriors, slaves, priests and others of my followers beg to differ. :sge

hellkaiser wrote:i'm very impressed at the action's taken by the horus guard on these matters and i'd just like to throw in that if you have a space opening up i'm an active member looking to join a decent alliance while i build up to decent level's and i'm also a talented diplomat i'll also be looking for a new CO as well (hit me up in game if you'd like to accept my offer of service i'll also have to inform my current alliance if you accept but all should be cool)


tek'ma'te Lord hellkaiser,

the Horus Empire is still recruiting and would look forward to have you within our ranks. Please register at our forum.
You could write an application there but I think your post here already shows us your rhetorical skills and your sense for tactics, but it still would be nice if you posted some things about you in order to make it possible to get to know you better. I will point the leader of Horus Guards to this topic, he will contact you in-game.



- Reschef, 2nd in Command of HSL and GE HC member

Re: How will t of the tok'ra be dealt with????

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:26 am
by Egeria
Harakash Maha Vishnu wrote:Impossible, my agent told me he saw you die on Pangar. You have a lot to to answer Tok'ra. Your tretonin may have saved some Jaffa, but they will pay. Ra made a mistake of burying you all those years ago rather then killing you, but I can still see it as it it was yesterday. Your a shol'va to your race. Trust me, Ra made a mistake, which I will not. We will ensure that the Tok'ra will be oppressed.

The One fortold your coming. I did not believe. He is watching. he is coming. He shall be your downfall
"eyes glow"


(OOC: AND JUST SO EVERYONE IS AWARE, this is rping, and does not mean I wish I killed someone)


your agent was, like so many others, very easy to deceive. In fact, only the high council of the Tok'ra knew I did not die there. now of course, all Tok'ra know I am alive.
as for my being a sholva, it is in fact you who have betrayed your race. for there are in fact many more tok'ra than you think there are.
you goa'uld are only able to live as a small part of the population of a planet. My children, the Tok'ra, on the other hand, are willing to make up all positions in the population of a planet. While there are only a few hundred newborn Tok'ra in this region, there are billions on some of the Tok'ra planets. In fact, whole planets have nothing but tok'ra on them.


You may be wondering how it is possible for my symbiote to have billions of children in just a few years. The background for such, lies in some of the technologies belonging to the race of my origin. It also has a lot to do with the fact that Egeria no longer is the only Tok'ra queen ever born.

Re: How will t of the tok'ra be dealt with????

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:45 am
by hellkaiser
Egeria wrote:Greetings goa'uld.
I am, as the more learned among you should recognize, Egeria, Queen of the Tok'ra.


And I am Ayiana, free and willing host of Egeria.

You seem to have changed a since I last was among you, yet still you claim you are gods, which you know you are not. You do know it just makes you look foolish, do you not?

I have heard a lot from my children about your behavior here, especially from my daughter, Teal'auc, and her host Johauna. It is good to see that at least some of you have managed to develop some diplomatic skills. But I still have to ask, when will you stop the foolishness of being gods, which you are not?


You goa'uld should know that when I blended with Egeria, it once again became possible for the ranks of the tok'ra to expand more properly, for already there are hundreds of newborn Tok'ra, just waiting for willing hosts to come.


Egeria
Ayiana



*time to go to work pending my possible transfer to the GE*

greeting's egeria and ayiana

as one who has no quarell with the tok'ra and their way's i would draw your attention to the name of our race gao'uld meaning god's or children of the god's
what else would we call ourselves??? tok'ra????? i doubt even you who contest our way's and custom's can be THAT naive that all goa'uld would simply call themselves that which they revile
i myself personlly use the term god simply as reference to my brethren's name's meaning literally translated as god's, and to the fact i'm revered as a god on my homeworld how else would a primitive race even begin while in it's infancy technologically wise that we are creatures from another world, and that it's merely machines which seem to grant our immortality and weaponry and such??? even the asgard were revered as god's to the tauri at one stage *laugh's* do the tok'ra still complain to them about that??

*whispers' in reshef's ear to unsettle the tok'ra present but in reality is merely talking about what his dinner is going to consist of lol*

fact: we do subjugate world's some of us conquering and enslaving, other's like myself teaching and recruiting gaining followers who then in turn serve me in exchange i offer them the abilities to grow crop's all year round and build wonderous structures in short spaces of time for THIS reason they call me a god and perhap's when the time is right i will reveal to them my true origin, but only when the race themselves are ready for such knowledge

also tell me what is so wrong in someone like mines' approach?

being a tok'ra you would have to find a civilisation on the cusp of or having the potential of becoming the next great race in the galaxy in order to begin taking host's which understand what you are doing fully in order to consent otherwise you would simply be no better than most evil and arrogant goa'uld by misleading them the tauri seem to be your main source of host finding from what i hear

i myself find races that are primitive and struggling them and help to nurture their growth INTO a possible great race far faster than if they had to do it on their own....some would say to rush is foolish and with time all races could potentially reach the goal but, then again with the greedy and more arrogant and power hungry of my brethren the chances are they will be instead crushed and forced into slavery. one's such as myself guarantees that this does not happen

so..... i ask again egeria queen of the tok'ra how are these method's so harsh and wrong in your opinion?? how is using the guise of a god to avoid the confusion and mass panic of the revelation to a primitive race a horrifying thing when done for the right reason?
perhaps in doing so i may come across as deluded at being a "god" but still it's merely a force of habit *laugh's*

Re: How will t of the tok'ra be dealt with????

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:49 am
by Egeria
Claiming to be a god is wrong. Also, the majority of those you claim to be primitive, are quite advanced, and your claiming to be gods has not helped them evolve, it has in fact hindered their evolution.
torture, terror, and fear are not tools that help evolution.

As for race being called goa'uld, what makes you so sure that is the true name of our race?

Re: How will t of the tok'ra be dealt with????

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:03 am
by hellkaiser
and now it is "our" race lol

quite simply i don't know if it is the TRUE name for our race... but i myself never knew ra to be against him so why call myself tok'ra? lol

do i enslave any of my people??? no all are free to not follow my rule as they see fit it just so happen's that i instil enough adoration on my world's that i'm revered as a god and followed by all but not one is forced into this by me instead it is merely they choose this in thank's of what i have done for them and once i feel they are ready they will of course then be given more diplomatic and economic as well as civil say in the way their planets are ran and defended as well as the existance of other planet's being revealed

quite advanced?? well unless you mean culturally then i would disagree a few rock's against a contingency of jaffa under the command of a goa'uld or a system lord is not going to be very useful now is it?

do i torture instil fear in my people also?? no

really your point's are....well disappointing to say the least i do not come here to argue with you but instead to listen to your word's yet you give me nothing which would even begin to sway me to even consider joining the tok'ra cause merely saying that claiming to be god's is wrong without giving a real and detailed answer doesn't show much i'm afraid in term's of wisdom or leadership

your only half valid points are culturally all civilisations can be quite advanced no matter how young

and if goa'uld is truly our real name but then again i doubt tok'ra is it either

Re: How will t of the tok'ra be dealt with????

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:37 am
by Egeria
Obviously not all are as intelligent as others among you.
you seem to fail quite a bit on that front, Earendil.

of course Ra would be dissapointed, after all, he was the one that imprisoned us in that jar so long ago.


and another thing, what makes you think that I am a Tau'ri?
how many tau'ri do you know of that are able to manipulate time?


I know for a fact that tok'ra is not the name of our kind. For I was the one that gave my children that name millennia ago.

As for what you have seen Earendil, that matters not, for Origin is quite limited in its reach. You claim to be powerful, yet you fail to identify the fact that there walks people among you who are much more technologically advanced. My race pursued technology, even while yours kept praying for this or that. you only use technology because you cant force people to believe in you in any other way.

Re: How will t of the tok'ra be dealt with????

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:48 am
by Cole
And yet the tok'ra didn't manage well against the Goa'ulds, 5 thousand years to take them down, had to wait for the SG-1 team to enter the game start doing damages.
5,000 years, wasn't it a bit too much...long?

Re: How will t of the tok'ra be dealt with????

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:02 am
by The One
Shol'va kree, i cannot be misslead!

I am a GOD!

Re: How will t of the tok'ra be dealt with????

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:32 am
by Egeria
you are a pathetic specimen, suffering from illusions of grandeur, contained in a human host.
to prove this, we'll quote one of you goa'ulds:
Ba'al: Come now, Teal'c. We're smart enough to know we're not actually gods. Well, some of us are anyway.

Re: How will t of the tok'ra be dealt with????

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:46 am
by The One
Show me your ID i need to teach you a lesson in religion! :-D

Re: How will t of the tok'ra be dealt with????

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:59 am
by Egeria
Ingame "discussions" can be taken up with my child, Teal'auc and her host, Johauna. She has expressed a specific interest in such "discussions" with you. Her ID is 38133.
It would not be polite of me to deny her that.

Re: How will t of the tok'ra be dealt with????

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:05 am
by hellkaiser
indeed i am an interesting goa'uld alright lol

i feel though the argument of the tok'ra queen to be a little lackluster still

also i have no intention of joining the tok'ra as indeed i still feel they have nowhere near given the intelligent argument's in which if would take to sway me i still however stand by what i said that a mutual understanding of the tok'ra may be beneficial to the goa'uld race

to take one's enemy and make them their ally that is truly a greater power than that of destruction

however doing so without completely losing the very basic's of what make us goa'uld is the challenge

however i fear that when it comes to such concession's that the tok'ra and not the goa'uld would be the less flexible from what i've seen

i mean no offence to any tok'ra to be honest when i say i see only bad feeling's and stubbornness which is unneeded realistically
but perhap's it will take a long time for the tok'ra to accept the goa'uld and vice versa even with concession's and change

Re: How will t of the tok'ra be dealt with????

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:21 am
by The One
Egeria wrote:Ingame "discussions" can be taken up with my child, Teal'auc and her host, Johauna. She has expressed a specific interest in such "discussions" with you. Her ID is 38133.
It would not be polite of me to deny her that.


i kinda like Teal'auc her arguments provide me with more entertainment!

i want your ID imposter!

Re: How will t of the tok'ra be dealt with????

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:42 pm
by Demon Lord Razgriz
I do not speak much but I must do so now.

I have found that the souls of Teal'auc & Egeria matches almost perfectly. This can only be possible when ether they're twins or the same person. So, are you really Teal'auc, hiding behind the face of Egeria? Or are you twins.

Re: How will t of the tok'ra be dealt with????

Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:49 pm
by Egeria
Unlike Johauna, the host of my child, Teal'auc, I am not very warlike, for in my opinion, war does not solv many problems.