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Re: WTH Admin?!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:36 am
by Severian
Meth wrote:
Ethaniel wrote:The entire point is lost by spam of Aga and others who don't actually read whats written...

Admin didn't take my planets for cheating, he took them and gave them to someone else for fun. What is hard to understand? its not that bloody complicated, a four year old would understand it.

and again, most of the planets were scrapped and I got new ones, ask Zesh, I was buying them off him during the war, buying planets that TLE stole from the others. lol.

the account was also massed and striped of many of its planets, and I rebuilt it, so saying it was built on cheaters resources is nonscence, I built it with my time and half the UU on the account came from my old account. (another fact people are inclined to glide over.)

If Admin wanted to punish me for something he has my email, he can contact me and say hey, look, i need to do this and that. I would of whined but known why.

Taking my stuff to give to someone else for fun, is a totally different circumstance, and you people just don't get that, which just shows pure ignorance lol.


Ok i understand the fact that he didnt take them cause you cheated but your account is still built on cheated resources , your ascended account wouldnt be so good unless the up and everything was huge when ascending. I have nothing against you and i understand your frustration about the planets but blackseal cheated and now you have his account


JUAN also cheated...

So apply your logic to everyone ever involved with such a situation or not at all.

Re: WTH Admin?!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:38 am
by Sphinx42
blahh wrote:
Lucky Starr wrote:
blahh wrote:And you cant just throw that in the trash and say act of god... or if think you can ask yourself who would want to play a game that resets months of work due to a random act of god?

You pretty much described real life there :)



Think that if you wish and makes you sleep better i do however have a limited ammount of time i m able/willing to dedicate to sgw, non the less i expect that what i gain in that time remains on me. IF that logic is too distant for you, than there is no point for me to spend time tryn to show you reason, is there?

I don't - every day I live could be the last, so no point in regretting anything lost. And yes, this did make me sleep a whole lot better when I was sick, when I was in tough situations and when I was just depressed.
And, in case I didn't make that clear, I didn't say Ethaniel deserves what he got or that he shouldn't get his planets back - I just said there's little point in making a thread on it. I shall leave now, to not create any further antagonism ;)

Re: WTH Admin?!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:38 am
by SÅTÅN 666
*zesh* wrote:you want to see the log AGA

<04zesh> amin you here
<14adminHere> y
<04zesh> i lost
<04zesh> my planets
<04zesh> ould i have them bak pls
<04zesh> they cost alot
<04zesh> :/
<14adminHere> ?
<04zesh> when you banned
<04zesh> and unbanned me
<04zesh> they got abandoned
<14adminHere> id again?
<04zesh> 66964
<14adminHere> i am having trouble finding htem
<04zesh> i found 1
<14adminHere> name/id ?
<04zesh> You determine the following from the use of your beacon:
<04zesh> The planet is currently owned by Tai_Mei_Shu.
<04zesh> The planet is currently named
<04zesh> You determine the following from the use of your beacon:
<04zesh> The planet is currently owned by show_more_availabl.
<04zesh> The planet is currently named If i hit you while you are.
<04zesh> Lastly, the planet is currently in normal space.
<04zesh> That is all that you could determine. This beacon is now deactivated on the planet, being totally spent.
<04zesh> You determine the following from the use of your beacon:
<04zesh> The planet is currently owned by show_more_availabl.
<04zesh> The planet is currently named If i hit you while you are.
<04zesh> Lastly, the planet is currently in normal space.
<04zesh> That is all that you could determine. This beacon is now deactivated on the planet, being totally spent.
<04zesh> and the third was called
<04zesh> all planets beaconed
<14adminHere> first 5 - by ID
<04zesh> some of those
<04zesh> where really old
<04zesh> and worth
<04zesh> alot more then my old 1s
<04zesh> :/
<04zesh> If I hit you + 35,000 Unit Production 9689(Def: 29,067,000,000) huge
<04zesh> 08 Hotel + 60,301 Unit Production 40000(Def: 120,000,000,000) huge
<04zesh> 09 India + 60,011 Unit Production 40000(Def: 120,000,000,000) large
<04zesh> Preferences
<04zesh> that guy wont be happy
<04zesh> :/
<04zesh> my 1s were worse
<04zesh> :/
<14adminHere> i sasw no duals
<04zesh> the owner of these wont be happy
<04zesh> as theyre really nice
<14adminHere> if it is not right - well...
<04zesh> :/
<04zesh> If I hit you + 35,000 Unit Production 9689(Def: 29,067,000,000) huge
<04zesh> 08 Hotel + 60,301 Unit Production 40000(Def: 120,000,000,000) huge
<04zesh> 09 India + 60,011 Unit Production 40000(Def: 120,000,000,000) large
<04zesh> Preferences
<14adminHere> i can give them back....wait - no i cannot
<04zesh> cos a 60k up planet costts alot
<04zesh> > You determine the following from the use of your beacon:
<04zesh> [1:07am] <zesh> The planet is currently owned by Tai_Mei_Shu.
<04zesh> [1:07am] <zesh> The planet is currently named
<04zesh> 1 of mine is ther
<04zesh> e
<14adminHere> take it or take it - best i can do
<14adminHere> if someone complains - it was the will of the (unnamed) gods
<14adminHere> u used to own these - at one time or another



Too Bad, It never said he did it for fun - Did it?

Re: WTH Admin?!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:41 am
by Ethaniel
Yeah he cheated, not my fault or my problem. both main and ascended accounts have been massed hard. I had 1.2 billion planets in ascended assassinated from me in 3 days, it took me 2+ weeks to get them back, which was done with planets generated in my playing time.

Its not like the accounts havent been touched since i got them, they've been creamed, and it was my energy that got them back up. The ascended account dropped to like rank 120 for a time there, and the influence was ranked just that 120. it was me farming and building that got the influence back to rank 11.

If admin wants to take 1 billion planets from me. (what i had when i took the account, and 40 million units. go for it, and tell me hey, we're taking what was on the accounts when you got them.

But at least that stuff wont be given to someone else like my planets were, its just not the same, and under this circumstance i can be pissed and asked for them back.

Re: WTH Admin?!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:44 am
by SÅTÅN 666
Ethaniel wrote:Yeah he cheated, not my fault or my problem. both main and ascended accounts have been massed hard. I had 1.2 billion planets in ascended assassinated from me in 3 days, it took me 2+ weeks to get them back, which was done with planets generated in my playing time.

Its not like the accounts havent been touched since i got them, they've been creamed, and it was my energy that got them back up. The ascended account dropped to like rank 120 for a time there, and the influence was ranked just that 120. it was me farming and building that got the influence back to rank 11.

If admin wants to take 1 billion planets from me. (what i had when i took the account, and 40 million units. go for it, and tell me hey, we're taking what was on the accounts when you got them.



How about a reset of your SGW & Ascended account?


ooo, you say it took you 2 weeks + to rebuild those 1b planets, That UP of yours on ascended is cheated too..So your generating quite a few cheated planets on ascended. :D

Re: WTH Admin?!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:44 am
by Castiel
If you have lost the cheated amount im fine with the problem but there is one thing the account wouldnt be an elder ancient god without blackseal cheating , or did you ascend ?

Re: WTH Admin?!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:45 am
by Borek
Well to be honest with all the cheating seemingly going on atm i think Zesh should count himself lucky to still be playing. No, not because he is/was cheating, but because not everyone gets a quick response and an unbanning after explaining what was going on. I mean seriously if Zesh was banned for selling resources and Admin didn't realise he was making his 18b per turn or whatever it is then that tells me 1 thing: People accuse you of cheating and you get banned 1st and questions don't get asked until AFTER, which is wrong on many levels.

Fact is Zesh should not have been banned in the 1st place, i'm a fraction of his size and i could easily afford to sell 3-4 trill every month without it really impacting my gameplay.

As for Ethaniel then i can sure as hell understand why he's pissed, this isn't about whether he bought a cheated account, it's about Admin randomly screwing him to make up for a mistake ADMIN made by banning Zesh without checking BEFOREHAND.

Now i don't personally like the fact Ethaniel is playing the game with Blackseals old account which "appears" to be built from cheated resources, but this thread isn't anything to do with that.

Re: WTH Admin?!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:51 am
by Severian
Borek wrote:Well to be honest with all the cheating seemingly going on atm i think Zesh should count himself lucky to still be playing. No, not because he is/was cheating, but because not everyone gets a quick response and an unbanning after explaining what was going on. I mean seriously if Zesh was banned for selling resources and Admin didn't realise he was making his 18b per turn or whatever it is then that tells me 1 thing: People accuse you of cheating and you get banned 1st and questions don't get asked until AFTER, which is wrong on many levels.

Fact is Zesh should not have been banned in the 1st place, i'm a fraction of his size and i could easily afford to sell 3-4 trill every month without it really impacting my gameplay.

As for Ethaniel then i can sure as hell understand why he's pissed, this isn't about whether he bought a cheated account, it's about Admin randomly screwing him to make up for a mistake ADMIN made by banning Zesh without checking BEFOREHAND.

Now i don't personally like the fact Ethaniel is playing the game with Blackseals old account which "appears" to be built from cheated resources, but this thread isn't anything to do with that.


Most intelligent post in this thread to date.

The concept almost reminds you of updates...

Re: WTH Admin?!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:11 am
by papa~smurf
no disrespect eth, but the wy i remember it was, u came to conflict with fs/lls, we strip u of 7/8 planets, u let u keep them for ending our conflict. Then sva brought FS/LLS into the TLE war, zocko had a couple of his planets stripped by z, zocko cut a deal to get out of the war and reclaim his planets. Before he could reclaim his planets, u bought them off z, one of wich being the planet zocko took off of u. call it unfair, call it krama, whats done is done.

Re: WTH Admin?!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:33 am
by Ethaniel
i took 1 of zockos planets not all, the reason zesh got my planets is cause i got them off him, and they were beaconed, and admin just gave him 5 of beaconed planets back, and in the process i got screwed by it.

You call it karma or whatever you want, I call it **Filtered**, it shouldn't of happened and thats that, if you don't get it, then i'm lost explaining logic to you.

Re: WTH Admin?!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:14 am
by Mukasa
admin screwed you...damn....i feel sorry for u..60k..

Re: WTH Admin?!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:41 am
by Neimenljivi
only read first page and won't bother to read next 185 pages that u all will write here as I don't have time....but I've read enough to see what's going on...zesh got banned & unbanned and planet(s) he had now belonged to ethaniel...admin gave zesh planets back, even tho ethaniel invested a lot of naq into them...why can't admin duplicate planets or at least repay ethaniel what he invested in 'em?

second thing is that u're all saying crap and pointing fingers cause ethaniel bought account which cheated, even tho ethaniel didn't know about it...funnier thing is that most ex-cop people here (not all) are accusing ethaniel, that he's same as cheaters are...and THE funniest thing is that whole SGW know that JUAN was a cheater and his sold UU to corkscrew for $ AND U SAID NOTHING as ur ally bought UU, even tho u knew juan cheated to get 'em....pathethic...

I won't reply cause I won't read this thread anymore cus I don't have time, just so u know that if u reply to my post, don't expect an answer from me :wink:

~N

Re: WTH Admin?!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:15 am
by RepliJake
:lol:

Re: WTH Admin?!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:27 am
by AncientAnubis
Take it easy Ethaniel, I know you're upset and rightly so, but you're more mature than you're acting. At least try to be civil, everyone commenting isn't out to annoy you or purposely not see what you're trying to say (except AGA of course).

Re: WTH Admin?!

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:26 am
by Castiel
Neimenljivi wrote:only read first page and won't bother to read next 185 pages that u all will write here as I don't have time....but I've read enough to see what's going on...zesh got banned & unbanned and planet(s) he had now belonged to ethaniel...admin gave zesh planets back, even tho ethaniel invested a lot of naq into them...why can't admin duplicate planets or at least repay ethaniel what he invested in 'em?

second thing is that u're all saying crap and pointing fingers cause ethaniel bought account which cheated, even tho ethaniel didn't know about it...funnier thing is that most ex-cop people here (not all) are accusing ethaniel, that he's same as cheaters are...and THE funniest thing is that whole SGW know that JUAN was a cheater and his sold UU to corkscrew for $ AND U SAID NOTHING as ur ally bought UU, even tho u knew juan cheated to get 'em....pathethic...

I won't reply cause I won't read this thread anymore cus I don't have time, just so u know that if u reply to my post, don't expect an answer from me :wink:

~N


calling us pathetic what you did to Mys was pathetic so in the end your a pathetic hypocrit.