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Re: Crazy Cost of Next Additional Fleet

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:04 am
by steventhegreat
I gotta Agree.. I got over a 2 quad defence and i get hit for 40 tril. If Cyber didn't get it, someone else would have. :?

Re: Crazy Cost of Next Additional Fleet

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:12 am
by Borek
steventhegreat wrote:I gotta Agree.. I got over a 2 quad defence and i get hit for 40 tril. If Cyber didn't get it, someone else would have. :?
I can explain why people don't hit me, but it's easier to just mass you in game and let you see for youself why taking 40 trill DMU (which at current exchange rates is worth, what, 100kUU's, tops?) isn't worth the losses of your spies, defense and weapons...which as you no doubt can see are significantly more than 100k UU's. Ergo, it is false economy to farm me, because i will beat it out of your main account tenfold.

Re: Crazy Cost of Next Additional Fleet

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:17 am
by steventhegreat
Lol, its actually easier to just get peace for peace :P But i spose everyone has their own ways of doing things.

Re: Crazy Cost of Next Additional Fleet

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:19 am
by cyberblade
Borek, this will be my last post to you on this topic in this thread as it has become spam.

You said something-you know what you said. I will presume you are a gentleman (or lady) and you will keep your word. I presume so because I have respect for your alliance's name, and I presume they would not let you in if you weren't the type to keep your word.

~Cyber

Re: Crazy Cost of Next Additional Fleet

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:27 am
by Borek
steventhegreat wrote:Lol, its actually easier to just get peace for peace :P But i spose everyone has their own ways of doing things.
Yup, usually the threat is enough to achieve just that, i don't like wasting resources unless absolutely necessary.

My ascended defense is small because i can't be bothered to put out loads of planets to protect the income i spend all day, it's only at night when i am potentially farmable, and i use crit then...and to be honest it's much more fun to mass people in main than it is in ascended as it actually means something. I could mass out cyberblades faily feeble defense in ascended and he'd get it back in a few days from his CER, however if i took him down in main it would take a lot longer and i could keep him down a lot easier.

Honestly i'm surprised more people don't do this, we all know ascended sucks for making people pay for sniping you :P Doesn't always work of course, but if it really comes down to it i just untrain my income planets it night, then retrain them with a few farms dmu the next morning...for now i prefer to leave out a carrot at night, just incase someone is stupid enough to farm me and give me a target in main 8)

And yes cyber i do stick to my word were possible, which is why i haven't farmed your alliance despite being very tempted.

Re: Crazy Cost of Next Additional Fleet

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:17 am
by High Empty
lol borek, WE DO DO THAT!

what we don't do is mass those that are on vacation mode in main, and there are a few, then their are others that have no stat's in main, Nothing!.

But anyone that has something in main, and they hit us, they loose whatever they have in main!

Re: Crazy Cost of Next Additional Fleet

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:42 am
by fremen
@The Rook The reason I don't hit you very often is you do not leave out much DMU. I leave the 40 trillion hits to other snipers and they are welcome to it. Everyone has to start somewhere.

Thanks for the compliments Borek, I was wondering where all your income went btw. I generally advise people to control their income rather then build a bigger defense as you have done. The reason is simple, that no defense will stop me if you leave out enough DMU. <---- Feel free to ignore this advice.

500k fleets is possible this month, but other things come up to distract me on occasion.

Re: Crazy Cost of Next Additional Fleet

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:19 am
by JediMasterX
psh, you'll be shocked when you buy the 200k fleet in ascention lol

Re: Crazy Cost of Next Additional Fleet

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:10 pm
by Lord Priape
[DDE] JediMasterX wrote:psh, you'll be shocked when you buy the 200k fleet in ascention lol



You'll be shocked even more when you buy your 400k Fleet

Re: Crazy Cost of Next Additional Fleet

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:39 am
by kvarga
fremen wrote:I generally advise people to control their income rather then build a bigger defense as you have done. The reason is simple, that no defense will stop me if you leave out enough DMU. <---- Feel free to ignore this advice.

It's true, but even with 10Q def, i was hit for 5T dmu too.. So I dont really understand the point of the whole def thing.

The only solution for me is the same sniping way, but it's hard if you need to play on main too.. Last time I tried to hit for huge (100T+) dmus, I needed to talk with almost all the farmed pepole for 2 days, because they wanted to mass me on main. I know, it's easier to hurt on main, and lot's of people threatening with a mass in main. Hopefully there are lots of them, who dont mass.. But still it's not a good choice to make your ascended greater with giving up your main.

It's like you have to choose between main and ascended.

Re: Crazy Cost of Next Additional Fleet

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 8:35 pm
by Mojo Rising
That's the thing, if you play both servers and play them well, it is impossible to get ahead because you can't do anything to the snipers and you can't snipe because you have stuff to destroy which makes it financially unfeasible. The key to this game is to have a kick ass account in just one or the other server and have a crappy account in the other.

Re: Crazy Cost of Next Additional Fleet

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:26 am
by TheRook
Mojo Rising wrote:That's the thing, if you play both servers and play them well, it is impossible to get ahead because you can't do anything to the snipers and you can't snipe because you have stuff to destroy which makes it financially unfeasible. The key to this game is to have a kick ass account in just one or the other server and have a crappy account in the other.


yup thats about it...

Re: Crazy Cost of Next Additional Fleet

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:47 am
by cyberblade
TheRook wrote:
Mojo Rising wrote:That's the thing, if you play both servers and play them well, it is impossible to get ahead because you can't do anything to the snipers and you can't snipe because you have stuff to destroy which makes it financially unfeasible. The key to this game is to have a kick ass account in just one or the other server and have a crappy account in the other.


yup thats about it...


sad but true... when I had planets and a def in main I'd get all sort of threats about my main account... Now that my main account has nothing no one threatens me much anymore on ascended.

Re: Crazy Cost of Next Additional Fleet

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 5:34 pm
by Lore
cyberblade wrote:
TheRook wrote:
Mojo Rising wrote:That's the thing, if you play both servers and play them well, it is impossible to get ahead because you can't do anything to the snipers and you can't snipe because you have stuff to destroy which makes it financially unfeasible. The key to this game is to have a kick ass account in just one or the other server and have a crappy account in the other.


yup thats about it...


sad but true... when I had planets and a def in main I'd get all sort of threats about my main account... Now that my main account has nothing no one threatens me much anymore on ascended.



Yes but in your case, its different then a true sniper. Your alliance can be destroyed for your actions. A true sniper has no alliance or maintains no real or known friendships that can be used against them.

Re: Crazy Cost of Next Additional Fleet

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:47 pm
by Raven
Lore wrote:
cyberblade wrote:
TheRook wrote:
Mojo Rising wrote:That's the thing, if you play both servers and play them well, it is impossible to get ahead because you can't do anything to the snipers and you can't snipe because you have stuff to destroy which makes it financially unfeasible. The key to this game is to have a kick ass account in just one or the other server and have a crappy account in the other.


yup thats about it...


sad but true... when I had planets and a def in main I'd get all sort of threats about my main account... Now that my main account has nothing no one threatens me much anymore on ascended.



Yes but in your case, its different then a true sniper. Your alliance can be destroyed for your actions. A true sniper has no alliance or maintains no real or known friendships that can be used against them.


Hmmm Blahh and zesh are really good mates of mine plz dont hurt them :-D

Anyway lets stop the crap about snipers they are nothing more then farmers without a big tag resulting in no stats because they havent got a big tag not because they are cowards.
Even if i were to build something up everytime i login number 167 checking my account will find nothing at all.
Income is still competitive to snipers just check out the current big accounts and you will see their CER and Lvls arent that much different from the top snipers + they dont have to do much for it more then to login.....

The problem these days is TJP and FUALL always had it the easy way, sitting on their ass and just collecting their income......well that time is over the first part is still true but ill be the one collecting the income 8)

To stay abit on topic .... wait till you pass 500k fleets then moan about the costs :lol: