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Re: Reyne = Cheater (proven!)

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:09 am
by Mr Nice Guy
Lith just told me he didnt pay uu... he swaped ( what ever it means or is ) i dont really care he paid for it and thats what counts!!! :-D

Re: Reyne = Cheater (proven!)

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:02 am
by HellSinG
he didnt pay, he swapped, he can swap back and his out of the bussines

and if i'd get my account back i'd go on vac mode, i said i'd rather delet my account then to alow lithium to play it if i had the chance.. and btw its my decision what to make with my account not yours norbe

if scamming is allowed, then everyone can do it now! lets all become scammers wont that be fun? NO it wont!

i have prove and everything, not my fault lithium you traded, all you will get (hopefuly) is your accoutn back and start building it up once you get it, i dont watn to see you on mine!

Re: Reyne = Cheater (proven!)

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:10 am
by 311 [TA]
hell, i suggest you contact the scammer and start the procedure up to get back liths account

i have this feeling

that the scammer will trade liths acocunt with yet another person and further complicate matters more

Re: Reyne = Cheater (proven!)

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:25 am
by Munchy
The problem here is, is that that chances are admin will not return the accounts to the proper owners. He never returns goods that are scammed in other deals, so I highly doubt he will make an exception for an account that was taken. He put up that warning in the account selling section for a reason. If you can prove that the guy is a multi then you have a chance of getting somewhere, but you would have to make your case with admin on that subject.

At the moment, from what I can tell, Lithium does not have anymore access to his old account than you do to yours Hellsing, so telling him to 'get out' isn't exactly logical, especially if Lithium would then be without an account. He was tricked the same as you though.

Re: Reyne = Cheater (proven!)

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:47 am
by Clarkey
unitedabominations wrote:clarkey , what makes u think u have the right to call Lithium names

I haven't been calling lithium names. Ok I said he was pathetic, which was wrong, but I haven't been calling him names. Read my posts properly and you will see i haven't called lithium any names... except for Lithium!

I have spoken to Lithium personally about this, so it has nothing to do with you.

I'd like to support both people in this, but that's a bit difficult, because the reality is, neither Lithium or Hellsing will probably get what they both want because they both want Hellsings account. And we all know Admin won't do anything about this mess..... unless the multi issue is raised.

So don't say i'm going round calling Lith names!

Re: Reyne = Cheater (proven!)

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:48 am
by HellSinG
So your saying scaming is legal? :shock: So everyone can do it, and noone will get cought sooner or latter, correct? If thats true then...

Re: Reyne = Cheater (proven!)

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:49 am
by HellSinG
clarkey wrote:
unitedabominations wrote:clarkey , what makes u think u have the right to call Lithium names

I haven't been calling lithium names. Ok I said he was pathetic, which was wrong, but I haven't been calling him names. Read my posts properly and you will see i haven't called lithium any names... except for Lithium!

I have spoken to Lithium personally about this, so it has nothing to do with you.

I'd like to support both people in this, but that's a bit difficult, because the reality is, neither Lithium or Hellsing will probably get what they both want because they both want Hellsings account. And we all know Admin won't do anything about this mess..... unless the multi issue is raised.

So don't say i'm going round calling Lith names!


LoL, soo truee, just its my baby XD

Re: Reyne = Cheater (proven!)

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:59 am
by Munchy
HellSinG wrote:So your saying scaming is legal? :shock: So everyone can do it, and noone will get cought sooner or latter, correct? If thats true then...



Never said it was ethical, but I have been scammed out of several tril worth in resources in my time of playing(main reason I stopped buying mt's, I was getting scammed 40% of the time). Admin never did anything about it, except ban the occasional multi. Ofcourse issues that deal with money are more serious, but I know most outlets that support money transfers have a hands off policy when it comes to virtual goods, as seen here
https://talk.gatewa.rs/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=76199

It would be nice if admin took a more firm approach of scamming, but he doesn't like getting involved in that type of thing for obvious reasons.

I personally hope that this situation does get sorted out, but unless the Reyne guy is proven to be a multi, I doubt it. Sorry. Good luck.

edit: This can be seen on the marketplace page at the very bottom:
Note: This functionality was added because of many many many reports of 'scamming' on trades. Goods promised, not delivered. Payments sent, later canceled. Promises of future actions never taken, and so on. ALL official trades are made WITHIN the game. If you make trades outside of this market, the game administration takes NO responsibility for the results. All trades outside of this market are now considered 'black market' trades, and are protected by nothing - you open yourself up to the above mentioned scams that some people work very hard to lure other players into. Please use your judgement, and - if you take a risk and try to trade outside the game - be prepared to lose everything and accept it.


That describes admins policy on scamming...

Re: Reyne = Cheater (proven!)

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:11 am
by Clarkey
Munchy wrote:I personally hope that this situation does get sorted out, but unless the Reyne guy is proven to be a multi, I doubt it. Sorry. Good luck.

Reyne account is Wrath™ ID 1906990

He also has Lithium's old account (no i'm not bringing Lith in to this and neither am i calling Lith names!)
The old account is Trance State Of Mind ID 73035.
viewtopic.php?f=73&t=104954

As far as I am aware this account was not sold on further. But even if it has, Reyne was using two accounts.

Re: Reyne = Cheater (proven!)

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:43 am
by Mystake
Munchy wrote:The problem here is, is that that chances are admin will not return the accounts to the proper owners. He never returns goods that are scammed in other deals, so I highly doubt he will make an exception for an account that was taken. He put up that warning in the account selling section for a reason. If you can prove that the guy is a multi then you have a chance of getting somewhere, but you would have to make your case with admin on that subject.

At the moment, from what I can tell, Lithium does not have anymore access to his old account than you do to yours Hellsing, so telling him to 'get out' isn't exactly logical, especially if Lithium would then be without an account. He was tricked the same as you though.




Lord of Destruction got scammed out of his account while he was trying to sell it and Jason restored it, but with a punishment on the UU the LoD lost.

Re: Reyne = Cheater (proven!)

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:27 am
by HellSinG
Well ok then deal i want my account back like it is right now (was before) shell since the 10 mil uu's got sent els where, i dont want anything els

my friends will help me get some boost, so if he did it for LoD he can do it
for me too.

Great! Thanks for the information mr mystake

Re: Reyne = Cheater (proven!)

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:39 pm
by Mr Nice Guy
Hey dude u saying he is pathetic... aint that a kind of name... no idea what kind but it is... u all should trhow this out, admins can not do anything to Lithium unless they mantain Lithium new account stats, he bought it, the scamm was for money outside the game.
If u saying u gonna delete the account then, why u want it back.... a lil vengeange to a dude that has nothing to do with your BIG HUGE MISTAKE, if u make it , then suffer it, but ha have no reason to pay for you mistake.


Forum rules

NOTE: Kingdom Games, StarGateWars, the forum admin, the game admin, TAKE ABSOLUTELY NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR CURRENCY TRADES outside of the game itself. We simply cannot monitor/validate/track/prove/disprove/confirm or deny the details, or if they happened.
Many are scams - and just because they are here, or are by recognizable players/people, does not change this.
IF YOU TRADE FOR REAL CURRENCY, AND GET SCAMMED OR DONT GET WHAT YOU THOUGHT YOU SHOULD, WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING TO HELP YOU, so do not even ask...The answer is "Sorry. We cannot help you. You just lost your money."



See, as i see,its your mistake and u shouldnt ask Lithium to give his account back cause of it.
By the way to the one saying something about buying accounts instead of improving its own.... dude, if u didnt think about it as a way of make things easier and faster is your problem, there are a lot of players like Lithium and me doing this, to save time ascending as an example, the way i see it , its a way to get faster in a decent level so big guys with huge armies dont sit on us as usual. Sorry but its the truth.

Re: Reyne = Cheater (proven!)

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:52 pm
by Mr Nice Guy
You're so pathetic that you have to pay for an account that's already been built for you. Then you cry when you get stuck in the middle of a scam!
this clarey.... u say he cry about it... u callin him what ??? mmmm yes u did . so im not wrong when i say u callin him names.. not in a direct way but u did dude, just chill out about it cause at the end as i said from the begining it will all depend on how much lithium cooperates on this.

Re: Reyne = Cheater (proven!)

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:31 pm
by HellSinG
unitedabominations wrote:Hey dude u saying he is pathetic... aint that a kind of name... no idea what kind but it is... u all should trhow this out, admins can not do anything to Lithium unless they mantain Lithium new account stats, he bought it, the scamm was for money outside the game.
If u saying u gonna delete the account then, why u want it back.... a lil vengeange to a dude that has nothing to do with your BIG HUGE MISTAKE, if u make it , then suffer it, but ha have no reason to pay for you mistake.


Forum rules

NOTE: Kingdom Games, StarGateWars, the forum admin, the game admin, TAKE ABSOLUTELY NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR CURRENCY TRADES outside of the game itself. We simply cannot monitor/validate/track/prove/disprove/confirm or deny the details, or if they happened.
Many are scams - and just because they are here, or are by recognizable players/people, does not change this.
IF YOU TRADE FOR REAL CURRENCY, AND GET SCAMMED OR DONT GET WHAT YOU THOUGHT YOU SHOULD, WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING TO HELP YOU, so do not even ask...The answer is "Sorry. We cannot help you. You just lost your money."



See, as i see,its your mistake and u shouldnt ask Lithium to give his account back cause of it.
By the way to the one saying something about buying accounts instead of improving its own.... dude, if u didnt think about it as a way of make things easier and faster is your problem, there are a lot of players like Lithium and me doing this, to save time ascending as an example, the way i see it , its a way to get faster in a decent level so big guys with huge armies dont sit on us as usual. Sorry but its the truth.


Never said i'll delet it, if i'd have a chace to give or to lithium or delet i'd delet, and i got prove any everything, its all up from the admins and none of us, so just wait for their decision

Re: Reyne = Cheater (proven!)

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:05 am
by Lithium
clarkey wrote:
Munchy wrote:I personally hope that this situation does get sorted out, but unless the Reyne guy is proven to be a multi, I doubt it. Sorry. Good luck.

Reyne account is Wrath™ ID 1906990

He also has Lithium's old account (no i'm not bringing Lith in to this and neither am i calling Lith names!)
The old account is Trance State Of Mind ID 73035.
viewtopic.php?f=73&t=104954

As far as I am aware this account was not sold on further. But even if it has, Reyne was using two accounts.



Clarkey the account Wrath has attacked Nipsuey (a planet has been stolen), and i think Reyne wasnt using it. u cant attack smone from yr same IP location or network.